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Choose the title of Crimson Gray 1.5 that appeals most to you: (Patreon)

Published:
2018-06-29 22:36:32
Edited:
2018-07-01 19:40:14
Imported:
2026-06

Poll

Choose the title of Crimson Gray 1.5 that appeals most to you:

  • Rose-Colored Blood 15
  • Blood-Colored Lenses 23
  • Eyes of Red 40
  • Shades of Dawn 109
  • 2018-06-29
  • —2018-07-01
  • 187 votes
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Content

EDIT: I'm closing this poll in order to put up a new one!

Note that the question isn't "Which of these is most appropriate to the game?" I hope all are generally appropriate, so I'm trying to pick one that is appealing and communicates something to a general audience. Basically, I'm too far into my own head and I don't know if some of these are too opaque, too obvious, or even work at all.

All of these would be a subtitle, as in "Crimson Gray: Subtitle Here."

I'm not saying I'll definitely pick the top voted one, but I'm curious what people like best. If people like polls, there could be times in the future when they're useful again, but I figured I'd try it out for now.

Comments

Toastedsnow

Hard to say without a vague synopsis of what the "expansion" will touch upon. Of the four, "rose coloured blood" and "shades of dawn" are the most open-ended in the sense that you could go literally anywhere with them and still satisfy the title to some extent

Foam

I think having the hyphen weakens the -colored titles. Crimson Gray: Blood Rose, or Crimson Gray: Lens of Blood sound better. Maybe Crimson Gray: Blood like Roses.

EG Douglas

I doubt this is helpful, but none of them really resonate with me. That said, the only suggestion I've been able to come up with I also don't think would work. Blanching Fears. Because fear can cause people to pale, but it also refers to the fears themselves diminishing. Eh, I just don't think so. Sorry.

Decanter

Oh no, why is Shades of Dawn winning. You should under no circumstances put the words "Shades" and "Gray" together in a title. That well is poisoned. Eyes of Red would be my pick, since I think a lot of people haven't quite figured out the meanings of the colors in the title, and it captures that it's Lizzie's PoV. Blood-Colored Lenses doesn't do that as well and it's a bit purple, but it'd be okay. Rose-Colored Blood doesn't seem as meaningful.

Navros Adaelean

I think Shades of Dawn is doing so well mostly because everything else is doubling down on the color. I mean, you can try to go full Bloody-Crimson-Scarlet-Red, but you're already sitting on a hue and a shade in the title. Maybe "Blood-Tinted" or just "Bloodied" Glasses could work - either going harder on the turn of phrase, or abstracting it further to dodge hammering on color so much - or maybe Shades is just that much cooler. *shrug*

Argenten

For me, Shades of dawn fits best because of the literal change in colora based on how the player does in the game, none of the other titles resonate with that subtle change as much for me

sierralee

Sorry, I forget who the previous synopsis was available to. For anyone wondering, it's Lizzie and John in college, two years after the first game.

sierralee

Yeah, I was thinking the hyphens didn't work myself while typing it. Whatever is chosen, I'm likely to avoid the hyphens one way or another.

sierralee

All feedback is useful feedback, thanks!

sierralee

Not the implication I was going for! I wanted it to be a play on "rose-colored glasses" but that one may be too clever for its own good. If people don't think of the play on words, it sounds weird.

sierralee

I like the meaning of "Eyes of Red" but for some reason I haven't quite pinned down, it comes off as too blunt to me. My intent with the last one is in the above comment. I personally like it, but that doesn't mean it's good.

Kyle S

"Crimson grey-eyes of red" sounds like a sexy vampire. I thing shades of dawn sounds like a hippie just waking up. Apparently i am the minority here lol

sierralee

Hard to say, but I didn't expect a result like this, so it's useful information. Thank you for adding your thoughts!

sierralee

Hard to know how many votes we'll get total, so I hope everyone keeps voting for their preference. Thanks for your thoughts!

Decanter

Blood-Tinted sounds nice

sierralee

I like the sound of it, but not the look of the hyphen. Maybe it would be okay to drop it for aesthetics, but I'd have to decide how to use it as an adjective. Hmm.

Toastedsnow

Cheers for deigning to enlighten me. That said, since the first installment gave you control over how John and Lizzie eventually turn out, none of the titles really resonate with me for the simple reason that they all give the strong impression of the ending being predetermined. The first two heavily imply some measure of death - literally or metaphorically (i.e. loss of person/mind) - and, since there's so few central characters (not a bad thing btw), you can just guess who's being offed. The third title makes significant overtures to an "everybody went bonkers" ending, and the fourth lays claim to the "darkest before the dawn" happy ending. In many ways, the four proposed titles are similar to Bioshock Infinite's "Burial at Sea" DLC - somebody was getting buried, it sure as hell wasn't Booker, so it had to be Elizabeth. You already knew what was going to happen, based on the title alone. Now, the above are all decent story arcs and I have considerable faith in your ability to pull them off, but it is my hope that you will keep one of CG's most defining features - the fact that my choices will have significant impact. To that end, a title that implies a predetermined ending (or spectrum thereof, i.e. the "good one" or the "bad one") does you a disservice, even if you have no intention of things panning out that way. Personally, I would go with something more neutral that gives weight to both sides of the (hoped for) spectrum. "Eyes of Tomorrow?" "To Fear the Future?" Sorry, I'm a technical writer, not a creative one. Sorry about the wall of text.

wearMoniker

None of the poll options really click for me. I'd mix some together for "Red Eye" but that carries the connotation of either a late-night flight or strong coffee. "Crimson Grey: Rose Dawn"? It's pithier on the tongue but doesn't convey any real image. Maybe something off-list? There's an old Churchill quote that might work here: "Solitary trees, if they grow at all, grow strong." That cherry tree plays a big role early in the game before it's burned down. And Lizzie and John were both solitary souls before they met one another. So, "Crimson Grey: Solitary Trees"?

Dubsington

Hah! I had the same thought, "this sounds like a Tori Amos song".

DukeLeto7

Feeble minds think alike, I guess.

Grimwauld

I did not like any of them. The color-based stuff connotes violence and passions - in an overwhelming way? It's hard to say. I picked Shades of Dawn because it sounds hopeful. I like hope. Looking at my purchase history in steam, desura, and GoG, I apparently have a tendency to favorite games that are hopeful. (Yes, dark souls is hopeful, damnit. If you don't think it is, you skipped reading the item lore :P ^_^ )

Decanter

Perhaps we can do hope without shadiness. Rose Dawn?

Runcible Technician

As long as the name hooks the audience, the writing will deliver.

DuckTogo

I think my reason for voting for Shades of Grey is exactly this. The other titles seem to say that this is going to be violent or very passionate and, whilst I of course have no idea if this is true, I don't think that fits the way I imagine their life after the core game. I was expecting more of a relationship drama centered around dealing with (rather severe) mental illness. But again, I have no idea if this is actually how the post-game looks. Due to Decanter I now also regret my voting, because yes, that does sound like 50 Shades of Grey... Ugh.

Rachnera

"Carmine Dawn". Wait, that sounds like a vampire story. "Red to White" maybe? Something suggesting we're leaving the red and the gray behind somehow? What of the POV? Titles are complicated.

Hollow49

I don’t think that any of these in isolation really gets across the “Rose-tinted glasses” theme you seem to be going for. Perhaps a different way of phrasing the idea would work: a variation on “through jealous eyes” or “crimson vision” or “perspective” could give the sense of Lizzie’s distorted view of the world, and then amend for your colour theming? Just a thought.

sierralee

Huh, that's not a reaction I anticipated, so it's useful feedback. For the record, my intent with most of the titles was to imply that this one is from Lizzie's POV. "Eyes Toward Tomorrow" is an interesting concept completely different from anything brought up so far. Hmm.

sierralee

Interesting new ideas! I'm trying to think how I feel about "Rose Dawn."

sierralee

Yeah, I'm definitely open to alternative ways of trying to get that idea. Haven't come up with anything yet, but you've given me some new angles, thanks!

Grimwauld

Rose dawn sounds pretty good. better than the other options, I think... Wish there was a word like 'gloaming' for dawn. ..

DukeLeto7

"Sanguine(-?)tint(ed?) spectacle(s?)" That should make the rose-tinted glasses metaphor visible without overloading the blood and rose connotations, plus sanguine is less doubling down on monosyllabic color words. You can go with or without the hyphen or the "-ed", potentially sub "color" or even "hue" for "tint". (Hue can be an understated evocation for hew, as in with an ax.) Lastly, you can add or remove the last "s" in spectacles depending on whether you want an overt optometry reference or a suggestion.

sierralee

Unfortunately, everyone has a different point where a title becomes too florid. I think there's a risk of that throwing people.

DukeLeto7

Too florid? Inconceivable!

Jens Mikli

Red-tinted glasses/lenses would have beaten out shades of dawn but explicitly mentioning blood in the title seems a little tacky.

SEEQYR

I'mma abstain, because NONE of the choices there appeal to me... the closest would be Blood-Tinted Glasses, or something like Sunrise-Tinted Glasses. What's there at the moment...all of them feel either generic or clunky.

r

Shades of Dawn fits best as a subtitle, but it's still kinda...eh? It doesn't really make sense in ofitself. Within the title context it kind of reminds me of shades of gray. If you wanted to use Dawn, Fading Dawn, Glipses, Whispers, Coming, Herald, or some other word with those connotations would fit better. Shades definitely fits better with Gray. The other choices with blood just makes me think it's a vampire game which doesn't fit. Keep the rose motif is fine, maybe something about thorns.

sierralee

So "blood" doesn't work for you period? Hmm, that's useful feedback, thank you.

werewindle

"So 'blood' doesn't work for you period?" pffffft I'll see myself out.

r

It's not that it doesn't work, it does fit the theme of Crimson Gray. It's just the word itself bring up the theme of a vampire story as the first thing that comes to mind, if I were to not have more context about the game. So when I see something like Blood-Colored Lenses, I don't think violence or yandere as my first reaction. If it were paired with other words like Bloody Asylum, then sure I think of it in the correct way. Rose-Colored Blood is also kind of unnecessary. Rose is a synonym for red, and blood has red as a connotation, maybe some sort of romantic vampiric story first comes to mind (note I hate vampire stories), not some a yandere story.