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Crimson Gray 1.5 Title: Round 2

  • Rose Dawn 57
  • Blood Tinted Lenses 41
  • Dusk and Dawn 27
  • Uncertain Perspective 16
  • Hints of Dawn 18
  • 2018-07-01
  • —2018-07-03
  • 159 votes
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EDIT: Poll is closed, as a decision is made.

Well, I'd hoped that voting would go quickly and we'd get a title everybody liked, but that was not to be. T-T I took everyone's suggestions to heart and came up with a second round of potential titles. I am relatively confident that one of these will work, unless some of these get a lot of unexpected negative reactions.

(By the way, the reason I want to get this done is because I have been informed that I am doing my Steam releases poorly. I've preferred to put up a page late in the process, for a polished page and a quick release, but it seems you want to do the opposite: put up a page many months in advance and flog it everywhere. Lessons learned, I suppose.)

Reminder:  All of these would be a subtitle, as in "Crimson Gray: Subtitle Here."

As an added thing to give feedback on, or perhaps just to give you guidance regarding the subtitle, here is my intended description for the page.

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Short Description: 

A slice of life visual novel with the emphasis on the slicing. Play as a mentally unstable young woman with blood on her hands trying to adapt to a normal life.

Long Description: 

Lizzie has it all: a large collection of knives, a loving boyfriend, and an intense desire to murder. She's escaped the conspiracy that forced her to kill in self-defense, but now she needs to adjust to normal college life.

All she wants is to act like a normal couple, graduate from university, and get married. But a committed relationship isn't enough to stabilize her, and she finds herself spending a lot of time with her knives.

This visual novels plunges you into the mind of a deeply unstable young woman, viewed entirely from her skewed perspective. Your task is to find a way for her to be a normal student, a supportive partner, and not a serial killer. This is a short visual novel with an emphasis on unreliable narration and subtle consequences of the player's actions.

Comments

wearMoniker

I like "Dusk and Dawn" a lot but, from the description, it sounds like "Dusk or Dawn" would be more apt, since it's Lizzie struggling with which one of the two paths in her life she should go down.

Markus S.

Can't say why, but after reading the summary "Rose Dawn" immediately sounded fitting without being too descriptive and a variation of deep meaning.

Greentext Guy

I like the inclusion of a word that envokes a timeframe like "dawn". Problem is that "dawn" implies a beginning and they're in the middle of their relationship. Maybe I'm looking into it too much. For my money I'd go with rose dawn to keep the color motif.

sierralee

That one could just as easily use "or," true! I used "and" because I was thinking her life contains some of both, but "or" is a valid option too. Tweaks are fine for all of the options, of course, just comment!

SEEQYR

...And now all I'm thinking is a play on the words "Read" and "Red", somehow.

Ryplinn

Crimson Gray: The Knife's Edge Crimson Gray: Splintered Studies

Ryplinn

I like Blood Tinted Lenses this time around, possibly because I associate glasses with studying and college.

Decanter

Some people made the point that they don't like "blood" being in the title explicitly, so "Red-Tinted Lenses" might be a variation worth considering. As for the description, I would reverse the positioning of "a large collection of knives, a loving boyfriend" so that the list items go from least to most "wait what."

Edward Culham

Given that both of these people are meant to be mentally unstable; kind of need a way to convey that. These titles I feel do not do that.

Edward Culham

Crimson Grey: Mental Studies; Crimson Grey: College's Knife

Jan Dietrich

I agree with you on the title. First of all, because it reflects the game well judging from the test-build.

sierralee

Will consider the variation, sure. I was going for sandwiching a normal thing with the odd ones, but yeah, having it be an increasing list is better now that I reflect on it.

Kyle S

I love blood tainted lenses but since everyone one is throwing in suggestions I thought, eh why not. Crimson Grey: Unstable blade

ADragonDreaming

I think I like Rose Dawn the most, but I think variations on it sound better: Rosy Dawn or Dawning Rose. I like the latter in principle though it might not fit the story perfectly.

DukeLeto7

In other news, I'm replaying from the border crisis because I've changed my mind on whether 'tis better to let Aram burn in the 3rd Arclent War or not. And I've bumped into a ludo-narrative dissonance issue in the fight with the Incubus Emperor. In the boss fight, you can neutralize a lot of his offensive capabilities with a Fire Charm. So why didn't Simon take one with him to Stineford? Why didn't Ginasta have one? Why didn't the free peoples of Arclent finish him off in the 2nd Arclent War with a platoon or company of high level Unpeople wearing fire charms? We know they're too f'ing expensive for the party, but that limitation doesn't apply to a state. I guess the simplest explanation is we fight him when most of his offensive capabilities have been nerfed, but still...

Dubsington

"Rose Dawn" is the most prosaic, but I don't think Ed Sheeran fans are the crowd you're going to make money off of. I think the word "blood" in the title in almost any capacity gives the game a cheap horror feel, which is not the case; assuming it's like the original, it's sophisticated and full of feels. Of the titles on that list, I least dislike "Uncertain Perspective". It gives me an idea of what it is: A game from an unusual perspective. Your unusual twists on perspective are a big part of what makes Sierra Lee games special, so I'd emphasize that.

EG Douglas

A brief flash of inspiration has struck! How about "Sanguine Perspective" ? Sanguine coming from both optimism and blood. Or "Sanguine Days" or "Sanguine Dawn" My inspiration was "Sanguine" is what I'm going for... Could even go with "Ex-Sanguine Days" : v

DukeLeto7

Patreon decided to shit the bed while I was writing this response the first time... On replay, I found that the fire charm's effectiveness on the IK fight was overrated, but noticed another oddity. The girls No Sell his attempts at sexual magical control, but are vulnerable to lust stun and lust madness and lust death during the preceding fights in the castle, and everywhere else, even if they are in the same party as Simon...

Runcible Technician

The only good one I've thought of this whole time was "Twisted Shades"

Handsome Stalin

Wasn't the biggest obstacle in taking the AoA down the difficulty of getting to him and making sure he can't escape? Even Simon's group could only do that with the help of Iris and Riala, his two most important lieutenants.

Decanter

Maybe the reason IK can't lust up your party is the deep and abiding hatred they have for him personally.

r

I don't think you need to put up a steam page early, it just needs to be up 1-2 months prior to release. Don't put it up months in advance necessarily, at least not without a known release date. Also from the other group I back, they are having steam approval problems (more than 1 month) for R rated games despite it being a serious game and Valve saying they support all games that are not illegal right now, so that's something for you to consider. Also for some reason when they put up their pre-release steam page it showed up as recently released on steam, so they got a bunch of flak on the steam forums about that.

Rachnera

Ginasta's "cheap shot" probably sealed his control-based abilities.

Handsome Stalin

I don't know, I don't think it's that much of a stretch to assume that Simon's power can protect the party against the shard-specific magical control but not against what you could call your "every day" lust magic.,

sierralee

Hmm, the Fire Charm is a fair point. The only change it would be likely to lead to would be making his fire attack a special element, though. Regarding lust magic, yeah, I had in mind that it's a shard thing. The Incubus Emperor could have tried to use normal lust magic with more success, but he never learned any because he relied on the shard's powers.

sierralee

"Sanguine" is an appropriate word, but I'm afraid it would throw too many people as a title.

DukeLeto7

And that, kids, is why you should study your basic magic!

DukeLeto7

One more oddity. I decided to experiment with the Greater Magic Necklace in situations where I had a foe who can't do status attacks or I needed to kill quickly with magic. But I was surprised to find that almost no one can equip the thing. It's a sexual accessory, like the magic necklace. BUT, it's only sold in shops which are not supposed to sell things made for succubi. Doesn't mean it won't help Yarra and Altina, and maybe Riala sandblast mobs o' Tower creatures, but it's a bit confusing from a world building standpoint.

sierralee

Hmm. I will think about the balance of this some.

WaxerRed

I think I have a solution everyone will agree with, why not call it "Crimson Grey 1.5, Rose-Colored Blood, Blood-Colored Lenses, Eyes of Red, Shades of Dawn Rose Dawn, Blood Tinted Lenses, Dusk and Dawn, Uncertain Perspective, Hints of Dawn, Electric boogaloo...The Reckoning."

DukeLeto7

UTTER trivia: The event for Orcent soliciting funds for the HQ armory has been moved into the armory room itself instead of the corridor leading to it. Presumably this is to cut back on people complaining he's visible in two locations otherwise. It's possible to approach him from below when making the investment, which results in a suit of armor spawning over the player when you accept. You can just walk out from under it, but I'd suggest moving the event to the 006,005 coordinate under the room's banner, because this is arguably a better location anyway.

DukeLeto7

I did say it was utter trivia...

DukeLeto7

And it's your abiding concern for the most lamely obsessive members of your fanbase that makes us love you so much. Well it's one of the reasons, anyway.

Alexander Freeman

Maybe you could just call it 'Crimson Gray: Slice of Life' and run away with the pun XD

sierralee

Okay, I've closed the poll, because I made my decision and moved things forward. I didn't choose the most voted option, but I did find the discussion of everything very useful, so I'm glad that everyone participated!