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In this piece of Patreon bonus audio, David and @joyonapping discuss what it was like to experience a solar eclipse with 100% totality in Indianapolis this week. Also: What is the proper etiquette when it comes to shared bars of shower soap?

PATRONS: You can get this audio in your podcast app by going to patreon.com/davechen,going to the "My Membership" section, and copying and pasting the RSS link to your podcast app.

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AtticusMT

My wife and I drove four hours south from our home in Michigan to set up camp in Shelbyville, IN, which is dead center in the middle of the path of totality. We tried to convince family members to make the journey with us, but they waffled and mumbled excuses and ultimately none of them joined us. Now, after experiencing the incredible four minutes of a total solar eclipse in the middle of the path of totality, I have a strangely angry emotion building up inside me, directed toward the members of our family who were too lazy, too lacking in curiosity, too unadventurous to spend the time to place themselves in a location that would allow them to experience a stunning cosmic event they would likely never be able to experience again.

David Chen

No need for anger! People can’t help what they don’t understand.

Brandon Lee Tenney

Two thoughts: 1. Hand soap and shower soap should not be enmeshed. The environmentally conscious angle is lovely sentiment, but it doesn’t outweigh enmeshment. 2. Why is the soap touching your body? Washcloths are good, but something like an African net sponge is best (and will actually scrub your skin, which will get you cleaner than just soap on hands), and with something to rub the soap on to create a lather, the soap should never actually make contact with skin. Especially a shared bar of soap. Thank you for always tackling the hard hitting conundrums. (Y’all are the best!)

Gary Yarbrough

I always ask my soap: How you like them apples?

Dave Glanz

Only in a Dave & Joy recording can we experience awe and wonder of celestial events and giggle at poop jokes.

Matthew LaBerge

I side with Dave, shower soap should remain in the shower. I may however be a bit unusual with my shower practices. I have separate soaps for each area of my body, a bar of soap that is used exclusively for sensitive areas, a special face soap, shampoo for my hair and a body wash for everything else.

Carole Mariani

We extremely need the video of Dave shouting at the eclipse, I feel like it’s going to be very wholesome

Alicia Chou

Thanks for sharing your experience! I traveled with friends to get into the path of totality but chose poorly in destination... Ended up with cloudy skies in western NY (and not within reasonable driving distance for a last minute destination change). Already starting to plan how to catch one aboard in either 2026 or 2028!

Nizar B

Really loved the feelings you both shared in this ep. From the highs of awe at the eclipse to the lows of horror at assflecks in soap. -- I was able to have my 3-year-old son in August 2023 view the partial eclipse with us and it was incredibly endearing and fulfilling for me to just see his joy and curiosity. This time around I had to be at work in the office and couldn't be there with him and my wife to enjoy the solar eclipse which truly bummed me out. I went out with my co-workers as the partial eclipse was starting and and watched most of them cycle in and out every few minutes to see how it was progressing. By the time the the sun was fully eclipsed, I had moved further from the group in order to take video without others' commentary but it was reassuring to hear a few folks as taken with the event as much as I was. I sat there for the entire 4 minutes and change taking it all in, trying to process it the way @joy described, wrapping my brain around how incredible this all was, the things that need to be true for us to even have this experience. A moment later I was once again viewing a partial eclipse and stood up to join my coworkers again only to realize I was the only one still outside in the parking lot. Going back into my office, everyone had already plugged back in. I could overhear some on calls buzzing about how incredible a sight they'd just witnessed before changing subjects to month-over-month metrics or ecomm data. I swapped photos and videos with my wife and talked with my son about how cool the total eclipse was and listened as he described the crescent-shaped shadows on the ground he saw from trees. My heart was becoming more full hearing him. After we hung up, I sat in silence for few moments before getting back to work. The next time we experience something like this in person, I thought, he'll be grown. Thinking about that made me very sad.

Matthew Lawrence

I know what you mean, but I don’t have any anger I just feel a little guilty that I got to experience it (for the second time) and I have family members and friends that might never get the chance. It makes me feel a little reluctant to talk about it to them. I have “apologized” to the people I was able to convince to go see it, because I had 7 years of trying to convey the experience and to convince people to see it, they now have 20 years of people not really understanding.

Joe Darcy

I was grateful to have seen a few moments of totality in the Austin area for this eclipse since the prevailing clouds blocked many peoples' view; looking at options for 2026 already... A quick tl;dr on why totality is different lengths for different eclipses, as mentioned in the podcast the orbits of the earth around the sun and the orbit of the moon around the earth are both ellipses rather than circles. Since the orbits are ellipses, the distance between the two bodies differ at different points in the orbit -- if the orbits were a circles, the distance would always be the same. So, if an eclipse happens when the earth is far way from the sun and when the moon is close to the earth, the eclipse will be extra long because the moon is relatively bigger in the sky compared to the sun. On the flip side, if an eclipse happens when the earth is close to the sun and when the moon is far way from the earth, totality will be less. We don't get eclipses every month because the plane of the moon-earth orbit is offset by several degrees from the earth-sun orbit. HTH