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In this bonus audio, I share some thoughts about how Elon Musk has possibly self-owned himself out of millions of dollars by being a dick to one of the kindest people in the world. Then starting at around 17:45, I share some initial spoiler-free thoughts on Scream 6. Thanks so much for your support! 

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Elon Musk apologies after mocking disabled Twitter employee

The Cruelty Is The Point

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Dave Glanz

"Elon Musk, of course, being a fucking moron..." - safe to just put that in front of any statement when talking about Musk.

Stranger2Reality

Personally I don't think it is a stretch at all to connect the love Musk followers have for Elon to the love Trump followers have for him the way you did, Dave. You're 100% right, the cruelty is what connects the two, and it's specifically why their fans like them. These are people who are largely defined by their hatred for certain groups, and absolutely love someone famous who will loudly be cruel towards those groups the way Elon and Trump are. It's just sad how many people today are mostly defined by their hatred and cruelty like that.

Stephen David Miller

Just for anyone who’s curious: typically when we say an acquired founder has different rules about getting fired, it’s because their incentive to stay is not a positive but the absence of a negative. It’s called a “hold back” — money from the sale of their company has been held back by the acquirer on the condition that they stay employed for X years before they release it. Companies do this to hedge against a founder immediately leaving and tanking the whole thing; founders protect themselves in turn by saying “If I am fired for any reason that isn’t extremely well justified, you accelerate that timeline and pay me now.” Presumably, Twitter owes this guy a big percentage of the sale price that was announced in 2021. Elon’s antics might have forced Twitter to pay it early, but by any reasonable measure they will have to pay him either way, unless he quits. And if Elon bullies him into quitting, that’s a lawsuit waiting to happen. Trying to fire and humiliate him is unbelievably stupid of Elon, because he’s essentially guaranteed the guy will be vesting and resting with zero motivation to lift a finger until he’s paid. Which he still will be now, every penny…just a few years later.

David Chen

Thanks for the context! Very helpful. (Also: let me know if I said anything htat was technically incorrect?)

Stephen David Miller

Nope you were spot on! (I’d never use a public forum if you weren’t.) I just recognized this dynamic from friends who have been in similar positions and figured I’d toss in the probable reason behind it.

John Halski

Thanks for your moral clarity, David. IMO, you’re connecting the right dots.