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Dave on Dave: A Gray Zone Where I Can Respectfully Disagree (Patreon)

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2023-07-06 22:33:26
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2026-06
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Dave on Dave is an ongoing series in which David Cho and David Chen gather together to discuss life and work. Also, usually David Cho has some harsh words to say about David Chen's stuff!

Today, the Davids discuss the launch of Threads (follow David here). Then, they dive into the David Zaslav/GQ mess (see WaPo's follow-up article).

PATRONS: You can get this audio in your podcast app by going to patreon.com/davechen, going to the "My Membership" section, and copying and pasting the RSS link to your podcast app.

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RonLad

The one thing with TikTok and Youtube is they do have that following tab you can click on and see only who you are following. On Youtube in chronological order and on TikTok in a "Here's a David Chen video from February you haven't seen yet" way.

Stephen David Miller

Totally agree with David Cho’s take on the GQ story, but I think there’s a lot to interrogate about the “laziness” that caused them to fuck up. The thing that props up power, that maintains the status quo, is always going to be less effort — the place an institution will head if operating out of laziness. So there’s something nefarious to infer here, about the system that made this the easiest choice. Basically it’s a good example to draw from, even if the sensational coverage is off.

commenter

Disclaimer, I don’t think my following take is right, or popular, or generally correct, it’s just what I think: The GQ thing requires a certain familiarity with journalism and also benefit of the doubt/trust in institutions that is hard to come by these days. People don’t dislike Zaslav in a vacuum, and (again, from my outside ignorant view) his ilk is part of a system that has grinded public trust down in pursuit of marginal profits. So when the situation requires a certain level of “trust me, there’s no conspiracy here,” they (GQ, media generally, Zaslav) unfortunately won’t get that. If they want this level of acceptance, of “I’m sure normal people were behaving in ways we are familiar with and made mistakes,” then (I agree with David Cho here) they need to: - make better decisions - actively do more work to improve public trust in systems and institutions Otherwise, of course people will want and seek the conspiracy angle