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The great Dan Boeckner (Operators, Wolf Parade, Handsome Furs, the Fortune Kit podcast) comes by to discuss how the electric guitar went from novelty to pillar of global musical culture, and how the hell all that stuff works, anyway.  And yes, a beetle really did crawl out of my microphone.

(***Correction: in talking about harmonic divisions of a string, I meant to say that the octave-fifth would be at the 19th fret, not the 17th.  I was thinking "7 above the octave" and accidentally came out with "17.")

Outro music: Handsome Furs, “Talking Hotel Arbat Blues,” from Face Control (2009).

I asked Dan if I could use this song because it’s one of my favorites, but also because I thought it would be cool to reconstruct the guitar/pedal/amp array he used to get the track’s guitar tones, so you can hear some of what we’re talking about in action.

As near as Dan could remember, he played this track using the following signal chain from guitar to amp:

• Fender Telecaster

• LAL Super Oscillo Fuzz (pedal): this gives the guitar both its overdriven roar at the beginning of the song and the fuzzy, singing quality when the lead guitar comes in (about 0:42, after the “I don’t know, but I’ve been told” chorus)

• Electro-Harmonix Memory Man (analog delay pedal): my personal favorite pedal. It can do a million things, and here Dan’s using it for the very quick “slapback” delay that makes the guitar sound like it was recorded in, say, a small tile room

• Boss DD-20 Giga Delay (digital pedal): another very multi-use delay, which Dan’s using in its Reverse mode to give the lead guitar (around 0:42 again) its oddly layered, “smeared” quality. What you’re hearing is the guitar, through fuzz and slap delay, and then a reversed playback of the guitar very shortly afterward, so it sometimes sounds like there are 2 instruments

• Fender Vibrolux 1x10 combo (amplifier): Dan informs me that his Vibrolux had a single 10” Jensen speaker but was covered in brown tolex, so it must've been a modified "brownface" Fender Vibrolux, c. 1961-1963. “Combo” means that the amp comes in a cabinet with a speaker attached; the other option, a “head,” is an amp in a little rectangular box that has to be plugged into a separate speaker cabinet, which is probably what you imagine when you think of stadium rock, Zeppelin, Van Halen, et al.

“1x10” describes the speaker configuration: the first is the number of speakers, and the second is the size in inches. 12” speakers are most common in guitar amps; by comparison, 10” speakers are very direct, focused, and punchy, while 12” speakers tend to sound thicker and broader, have much more bass, and seem more “transparent.” It’s not very loud, but you can best hear the amp itself during the “I don’t know, but I’ve been told” choruses, and it’s pure brownface Fender: sharper, cleaner, and more detailed than a tweed, but much warmer and chunkier than the very famous black amps Fender began making in 1963.

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Joshua Yelden

Looking forward to this listen. Wolf Parade’s “At Mount Zoomer” was one of my favorite albums in my late teens. They became one of the few bands in my rotation that weren’t heavy Prog and ultimately helped me realize polyrhythmic music could still be accessible and didn’t always have to be King Crimson.

Riley

I’ve been playing guitar for years and this episode cleared up so much. Any thoughts on the AC30 TB (Top-Boosted) of the mid-90s?

glenn mohre

Have you considered the Ashtray of the Telecaster in how it influences the tone?

Creeping Jeff

I went to three Joe Strummer and The Mescaleros shows before Joe died and every show he was playing through a Roland JC-40 Jazz Chorus.

Noah Tavlin

Can we get a pic of the bug? I wanna see the bug

Volt_wizard

Holy shit, awesome episode. I absolutely love it. I'm the amplifier engineer for Omega Ampworks, we manufacture modern high gain valve amps, I'm so happy to see other interest in the subject. I'm a huge gear nerd and collector as well, if you guys ever have any technical questions, or anything else I'd be happy to discuss.

roy cochrane

johan segeborn, that channel is so decent and basically the reason i'm building a plexi right now. there's something to be said about vintage amps being just uncomplicated enough electronic devices that a hobbyist can actually slap one together and fuck around with values pretty easily, that has to be most of the romance

Connor Zaft

My favorite things all in one place: Death/Corner and guitar. Cannot fucking wait for a pedals ep. Can we get a spin-off, Guitar Is Just Around The Corner? Also, any opinions on Leo's later work with G&L?

Patrick Hooks

I hate be a pedantic asshole but didn’t Les Paul invent the solid body guitar, not Leo Fender?

Izak Kennedy

Me sadly gazing at my much loved fender fm212 solid state longing for sum tubes :( but holy shit as an electronics nerd and musician those explanations really nicely contextualised some stuff for me. i really enjoyed this

Bong Bong

Who can go deeper into an infinite honeycomb of rabbit holes, further and further into byzantine madness than a conspiracy theorist talking about the manifold complexities of the JFK assassination?? Two musician dudes talkin' about gear.

Kenneth Smith

I would really love it if you talked about Godspeed You! Black Emperor sometime. Idk if you know anything about them but they’re fascinating, from their guitar tones, techniques, field recordings, to even their story and politics. Sorry I know this is kinda random

FactHater

This was great, looking forward to part 2.

Sleepy

Brie and honey, a god pairing.

Don Bigote

When do we get to hear some of your shit?

John

extremely good shit, thank you Michael

Travis Dunlap

Do you have any thoughts on Trey Anastasio as a guitar player? I think he gets a pretty cool sound out of a fully hollow body.

Travis Dunlap

Well, if there are any other Phish fans in here I'm sure they will all have recommendations but I think all of them will agree when I say you should basically avoid their studio stuff like the plague and just stick to the live stuff. Personally, I think the era of their live shows you'd potentially like is 93-95. Its their most wild, experimental period in my mind. Its right when they are coming out of their more Zappa influenced, composition focused phase (so songs like Reba, Fluffhead and You Enjoy Myself) and are really focusing on improvisation in their live shows. There is a website called Phishtracks that has all their live shows and two personal favorites of mine that I think you might enjoy is the Split Open and Melt 11/03/1994 and the David Bowie from 08/17/1993. The Split Open and Melt in particular is a much more group focused style of improvisation. He still gets plenty of chances to shine but its less soloing than some other jams. The songs themselves are fine, especially David Bowie, but I think most Phish fans would agree that the improvisational sections are where it's at. His guitars are handmade by a friend of his and he always gets beautiful tones out of it. That Oysterhead album is such a weird mix of styles and I love it so much.

Drew Ohringer

any fans of the drunken enigma Dan Bejar/Destroyer here? Dan's tone at the end reminds me of Nicholas Bragg's sludgy mist-neon playing.

Sean

Talking about the connection of audio electronics and military hardware, I once recorded in a studio where one of the cherished pieces of outboard was a WW2 era US Army radio amplifier that had instructions printed on the casing on how to destroy it as quickly as possible in case of immediate capture.

Arkady

great episode, made me get out my sticker-covered strat knock-off and realise i can't remember how to play anything, so i just made some horrible noises instead which was at least cathartic

Tim Peters

Hey MSJ, Love this ep and forever grateful for your work. Read GR at 20 and never been the same since. Thanks for taking an accessible approach to a book that sits like a tokamak on my shelf; with your help I might crack it open and melt my face off a second time. Not so much a topical request as a thematic one related to this ep. The sections where you focus on the relationship between the more technical aspects of music and their resulting affect and idiom are the real gooseflesh shit for me. E.g. the genre shifts in Blackstar or where you talked about the set of Locrian mode piano keys in GR. As a synaesthete are you aware of any kind of theory that maps modes or chord shapes to emotional response? A major 7th gives wistfulness; a sus9 or "mu major" will give satiety... how?

Baron

Unrelated, but apparently, Martin Shkreli compared the WSB Redditors to suicide bombing jihadists, in that their intended target was practically I damaged to the point materially insignificance. Do you think this sort of Memestock investing fits into the iconosphere?

Lorin Jones

Hey! I bought a Jazz Chorus 120 a while ago for its notorious “clean” sound, which I heard was excellent for use with pedals and effects chains. It’s five times the amp I need in terms of power. Could anyone explain to me some of the drawbacks of the JC, and maybe recommend an alternative?

Lorin Jones

Man, thanks so much for the incredible detail. This is immensely helpful. I JUST sold a Proco Rat because I couldn’t get the classic tone out of it, and I couldn’t figure out what part of my setup was the weak link. I’ve really enjoyed certain aspects of the JC, but it’s starting to feel like a one trick pony, and I’m definitely ready to move on. My pal plays a deluxe reverb and swears by it, but I think you might have sold me on the Lone Star. They seem like incredibly versatile machines, and the prospect of having both pre and post tone adjustment seems incredible. To be honest, I never knew about tone stacks and midrange, which explains why I have always struggled to dial in good settings. Both of these eps and your explainers have been CLUTCH. I’m checking out Al di Meola now. I tend to play more jazz and fingerstyle usually, but I’m starting to branch out more, and I’m definitely trying to brush up my lead chops. I play a 72 Tele Custom reissue with a wide range humbucker at the neck. It has been decent for warm, round tones in my play style, but it tends to sound dry and flat with very little sustain when driven. I’ve read that the reissue humbuckers are garbage. Always wanted to step up to a jazzmaster but never took the leap. Think I should go ahead and swap with the amp? Thanks again for your help! Amazing work. I love the pod. You got me to read Devil’s Chessboard (which I bought for three people for Christmas) and Kinzer’s The Brothers. I feel like a true acolyte.

Lorin Jones

Aha! Marvelous detail. The Special is on the horizon! Thanks a milly. I was absolutely chuffed to hear the JC addressed in ep. 3, and I’ve got plans to slap a dyna comp on my chain until I can swap for the Mesa. Additionally, I ordered a Shallow Water like two days before ep 3 posted. I’d been really craving it for a while because that random modulation sounded so ethereal and emotional. I was super stoked to hear you guys singing it’s praises. I’m no wizard, but if I can get something worth listening to laid down, I’ll send it your way for review. Much obliged!