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#186: New God's Funeral VI (The Angel of Autopsy) (Patreon)

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2023-04-15 05:50:59
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2023-04-15 05:56:53
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Get behind the walls of New Rome – you want to buy (kill) the farm (yourself), but the land's not yours to own. Isotopes aflare in the slag. How many dead worlds reconstructed skimming the black cream from one dead city.

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Louie Van Patten

Another great episode. For anyone interested, there is a decent book called The Age of Insight that is about Vienna at the turn of the century and the intersection of Freud and artists like Klimt and Kokoschka. And if you like the stuff on the nature of seeing, I highly recommend The Object Stares Back, How to Use Your Eyes, and What Painting Is by James Elkins.

Jaime Christley

It was one of the scholars interviewed in SHOAH who pointed out that three of the first phases of the Nazi genocide of the European Jews - deprivation of property, ghetto-ization, forcible registry and displays of identification i.e. including but not limited to the yellow stars, armbands etc - had upwards of a thousand years of precedent w/r/t Catholic persecution of European Jews. So when people want to sell you on the idea that the Holocaust was a complete aberration rather than, by and large, something the continent was already doing for hundreds of years (if not thousands if you want to broaden the scope), it helps to blind us to the connectivity that that event had with the past, as well as subsequent history, in America, in Palestine, in Yemen, etc. Of course, if I'm not misremembering, you mentioned that Hitler looked at the 100+ million murdered Native Americans & First Nations people and regarded it as aspirational.... But even to regard the Final Solution as an aberration, "aberration" begins to blur around the edges; the gas chambers, the ovens, they didn't just fall out of the sky...... oof, I better tie this one off before I start talking about the grid, the rocket.

Jaime Christley

Alexa, please play "The Man Comes Around" by Johnny Cash

Jace

"The philosophers stone will always be found despised and buried in the mud" -The Counselor, Cormac McCarthy “The symbols of the divine initially show up in the trash stratum” – PKD Your mention of McLuhan’s lightbulb example made me wonder about Byron the Bulb, and if Pynchon intentionally made him a lightbulb in response to that example in Understanding Media. Admittedly a bit of a half-developed thought, but it feels significant.

Menikmati

"Let us beware of saying that death is the opposite of life. The living being is only a species of the dead, and a very rare species."

Bored at Work

Bill from Missouri just said it's better if they are dead

Bored at Work

Where his hands as beautiful as trump's? I live in Washington and I have definitely never ever crossed state lines with a cheap Idaho keg. On a totally different note I have a place to stay.

Kelley Hoefer

Michael Judge, you're a deep breath of fresh air.

Bored at Work

Music is so powerful that in Islam women aren't allowed to sing in front of men and the only instrument that is allowed is a drum...b/c it doesn't move emotions. And uh Muhammad who hurt you

Ian H

Excerpt from a 17th century chronicle of an aristocratic German pleasure hunt: “one beautiful stag was slain, five does, three sizeable wild boars, nine smaller boars, two male gypsies, one female and one baby gypsy.”.

warren_

Goddamn this one really hit, gonna be thinking of your points on music and death drive for a while

Andrew Barlow

Great episode! Had the thought in the last week that I would love to hear your thoughts on Deleuze and Guattari, and your set up at the end got me excited! Can't wait to see where you go with it.

M Wigby

i am trembling in anticipation of the MSJ Deleuze and Guattari exegesis

Jaime Christley

I'm not entirely unsympathetic where your music thoughts are concerned, if only we're indicting these shit tech companies rather than the people who listen to music. I tend to think - and it's taken years of effort to get to a place where I thought this - that people, reg'lar folk or whatever you want to call them, are better at seeing and listening and thinking, etc, than we want to give them credit for. A little while back, I was having a discussion about auteur directors from the traditionally bracketed "Hollywood golden age", which one can debate in lots of ways but let's go with 1929 to 1968, i.e. the period covered by Andrew Sarris's THE AMERICAN CINEMA: DIRECTORS AND DIRECTIONS. To make a boring story short, the question we were discussing was, ok, so Douglas Sirk was making these cosmically complex masterpieces of le cinema and disguising them as glossy, Technicolor pap. Baby food beach read for rubes and housewives. This view, while correctly exalting Sirk - and if you don't particularly like Sirk you can invoke anyone on a short (but dense) list of filmmakers who were operating at that level during those years - was largely being offered by people my age or younger, who got to know Sirk, Hawks, Ford, Hitchcock et al via latter-day means, which would have been anything from repertory/revival screenings (35mm, 16mm, DCP) to VHS/DVD/Blu-ray to streaming services. Whereas there were older cinema heads who would have seen something like IMITATION OF LIFE when it was just another movie hitting the screens in 1959, where your other choices might be NORTH BY NORTHWEST or THE SHAGGY DOG. It was averred by these folks that Mr. and Mrs. America, going to see a Sirk film as a new release, were just as likely to "get" the complexities of the art that Sirk was making, that it was not concealed by the superficial appointments of genre, but available for all to see. And it occurs to one to consider how often those "rubes and housewives" are really on equal footing with any of those jerks in TÁR, when it comes to picking up what a given artist is putting down. Believe it or not I was drafting a much longer and, I'm not shitting you, an even more boring reply, but thought better of it. I just wanted to say, it takes a lot of work to stay vigilant about not underestimating one's neighbors. The internet makes it REALLY easy to weaken, in this regard, creating a blinkered simulacrum of the "rest of the world" where we have little choice but to think that everybody on the other side of the screen as just the chicken at the end of STROSZEK. EDIT: I do want to clarify that I recall a lot of your pessimism re music is well and fully explained in an earlier episode where you talked about how Spotify is, among its many sins, basically giving us 1/8th of every song, factoring in compression and other stuff. Folks if you're reading this far and you haven't listened to MSJ's music episodes - guitars, Bowie, technology, etc - boy howdy don't do anything else until you've gone back and given those a listen. ok thanks

Jaime Christley

A word regarding banner tech companies directing our perceptions of reality, and a case study in how said companies can seem to do nothing but not only fail to deliver on their vaunted promises but to disappoint in an almost admirably dedicated precision along the contours of those promises, not satisfied until they are a lifeless cadaver brazenly parodying their original stated purpose, I want to say something about NETFLIX. Like many shit-kicking middle-agers, I first encountered Netflix as a DVD-by-mail service which, incredibly, was NOT a joke from I want to say FLIGHT OF THE CONCHORDS? but a real thing that was amazing. Fastforward not even a decade and I'm fully "fuck Netflix" but one day I think, "well, I don't know, let's take a look" and this is when I first learn of their auto-play game. Let's not get into them juking the stats, to borrow a phrase from THE WIRE, this is a cosmetic annoyance of the first order. Your cursor comes into contact with the thumbnail of a show or movie - not something you can avoid on their landing pages, it's what's there, it's their magazine rack, their sweets and chocolate bars by the cash register at child's height. So your cursor, contact, the movie BEGINS TO FUCKING PLAY. Or the trailer, or a clip. So I'm so tuned up by this fucking bullshit that I do something rather out of character, which is, I call Netflix, their customer service line. On the telephone. Is this even a thing now? I'm nearly at my point, bear with me. The rep tells me, very soberly, that there's no way to switch off this feature. "This is the intended experience" is the explanation. This is the intended experience. Who intends? Not you, not me. The technology will take it from here. Thanks for your interest, we value your feedback, but intending and experiencing, well, our profit margins don't exactly allow for controls by outside parties aka You.

glenn mohre

Great episode. Are you implying that this trifecta (Marx, Freud, Nietzsche) are the primary delimiters of the western 20th century's totality?

Zach

Have you seen How to Blow Up a Pipeline? I saw the movie a day after listening to this episode and I thought it echoed a lot of things you brought up here. Both the movie and the Pynchon passage you read at the beginning of this episode highlight an oil pipeline as the ultimate concrete manifestation of a power network created and dictated by "the needs of technology." In the movie, members of those groups that are designated as "the waste of the World," and who are literally poisoned by the pipeline, decide to blow it up in what they hope will be a viral event that will inspire others to disrupt these power networks in a similar manner. It seemed to me that the movie recognized that political assassinations are obsolete, and suggested that spectacular, 9/11-style destruction of symbols of networks of malignant power might be (parody!) a modern alternative. If you've ever seen the movie or ever get around to seeing it I'd be interested to hear your thoughts.

Jaime Christley

MSJ, where are you at on Harold Bloom? Dart or laurel? Haven't read a shit ton of his stuff myself but a handful of his comments have lodged in my brain, and he had very definite ideas about the Shakespeare to MarxFreud pipeline.

Peter Annee

Rather than being filled with cum is it possible the spine is something like sedimented death drive? The earliest part of our nervous system compelled to live and move ever further away from rest by the energy of the sun? As if the spines growth from a microscopic organism is analogous to increasing the tension on a bow? How does Deluze’s interpretation of the death drive as creating difference square with Freud’s description of returning to a prior state?

Mike Bilbe-Taylor

How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Rhizome

Howell

Your mention of the city of Troy as metaphor for palimpsest reminded of Heinrich Schliemann, the guy who found the Mask of Agamemnon. I feel like he's the kind of minor historical buffoon MSJ would know about, but if not a brief summary: 19th century German importer/exporter who fancied himself an archaeologist. Had a childhood dream of excavating Homeric Troy. Later in life he did so, in part, with dynamite, and tore through the layers of the city until he reached Homeric Troy. Except he'd actually dug about 1000 years deeper than that. Just absolutely decimated centuries of history then smuggled a bunch of shit away and sold it. Wanted to bring that gem of a man to your attention if you didn't know of him already.

kallampero

Anyone else unable to get eps on their podcast app?

Paul Sirota

Michael, just brainstorming here, what level of Patreon do we need to hit where you just do a full on chapter by chapter reading of gravity's rainbow? You wanna do it. We all want you to do it....

droning muffler

Would you ever do an episode about the seduction theory controversy?

Gratch

Have you seen Cronenberg's A Dangerous Method? I feel like it has so much to say about the creation of psychoanalysis as part some dark birth of the 20th century western mind through the dramatization of a real episode between Jung and Freud. Highly recommend if you haven't seen it.

idiot.wisdom

(Just sharing some feelings I had during this episode) The totalitarian pain engine of our culture in driven to propagate in much in the same way a traumatized person recreates their trauma in an attempt to resolve it. It must persist and be spread in order to pursue a successful outcome with no fundamental change to approach or else it must admit that it's an endless recursive spiral towards auto-annihilation.

Drew LaBarre

I love you Michael! Are you into Bernard Parmegiani’s work?