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How should leftists PROTEST for Climate Change? (w/ George Monbiot)

This week, Briahna spoke to environmental activist, author, & journalist George Monbiot about the state of nature: that is, the global warming, the left's growing frustrations with electoral solutions, the tension between individual "green" choices and the scale of industrial pollution, and why George doubts Marx can help with this one.

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Anonymous

They picked Akanni up one morning Beat him soft like clay And stuffed him down the belly Of a waiting jeep. What business of mine is it So long they don’t take the yam From my savouring mouth? They came one night Booted the whole house awake And dragged Danladi out, Then off to a lengthy absence. What business of mine is it So long they don’t take the yam From my savouring mouth? Chinwe went to work one day Only to find her job was gone: No query, no warning, no probe - Just one neat sack for a stainless record. What business of mine is it So long they don’t take the yam From my savouring mouth? And then one evening As I sat down to eat my yam A knock on the door froze my hungry hand. The jeep was waiting on my bewildered lawn Waiting, waiting in its usual silence.

joao z

wow! Manbiot, what a nab! been a while since i heard from him, thank you!

Anonymous

Thank you, thank you for this interview. Manbiot is so on point with his critique and response, no surprise there. It's amazing to me that these figures who are able to pinpoint the problems of our world so precisely, manage to do so with such grace, humor and (measured drops of) hope. It's not unusual that the environmental episodes have me fighting back massive waves, but the fact you've taken the time to so directly address the shameful & enviromentally destructive practice of "animal agriculture" was music to my heart. I look forward to listening back to this episode again.

Anonymous

So glad that you had this conversation. Really excited to talk protest strategy as well as optimism at rewilding and change in food sources during Callin! Thank you for having this conversation Brie. I think there is something very clickable if we can find the common ground between the revolutionary appetite on the working class Right and the Environmental movement/people interested in eradicating poverty.

Anonymous

Climate episodes and climate activists are simply wasting peoples times for the most part. No I’m not going to use paper straws, No I’m not stopping eating beef, and all your other big ideas you come up with for me and not corporations. Keep your message at the Koch Brothers, the Vanderbilts, Rubert Murdock, the gulf Arabs and their new found wealth in drilling and everybody else who’s actually polluting the planet. When you get some concessions from them I’ll gladly use paper straws and cut way back on my love for the hamburgers until then you guys are muddying the waters with your arguments of individual shaming when numbers don’t even back up your arguments. And I made a vow to not leisurely fly with friends privately after 2014-2015 so I made all my environmental commitments/concessions it’s their turn.

Anonymous

Monbiot - not Manbiot - I was confused!

Anonymous

Great discussion with George. He is brilliant, and a wonderful man. I highly recommend his book, Regenesis. If you think there is a future for animal ag in sustainable future, this book will help to explain why that is just not possible. But also full of ideas and research on what we can do instead to have a food system that allows to survive and thrive.

Anonymous

The man is spewing hate again on twitter this morning. I do not trust him any longer. Au revoir

Lydia Maria Child

I have no idea what you're talking about, but no matter, I'll just take your word for it. CANCELLED! Got 'em.

Lydia Maria Child

"Some of those who claim to confront the establishment are just as ruthless in exploiting gullible people as the elites they rail against." George "CIS white male" Monbiot, via Twitter , a few hours ago. Wow, that's like literal violence. You should probably start your own podcast and really help us all out. Go get 'em. Fucking loser

Asisipho Guga

No one takes George seriously. He needs to go and eat a good steak and take a bath.

John H

This is just rationalizing. At worst, by making the personal transition to more sustainable existence, you're getting ready for the changes that will occur if systemic policy changes take hold; at best, if a critical mass of people stop driving personal vehicles, eating meat, buying phones every couple years, etc. it will kill the polluting industries from the bottom up without needing to force top-down policy. People talk about corporations generally and fossil fuel companies specifically being the biggest polluters as though we're not out here buying their products, as though they could keep existing without the demand. If you can't adapt of your own volition, how exactly are you imagining adapting when forced by necessity?

John H

Brie and especially Redd as a caller were driving me nuts on the Callin' about this episode. Every grocery store has beans/lentils and rice; they're EASIER to cook than meat stuff; they're MORE shelf stable (not requiring refrigeration, like salmon); and they're cheaper than meat (Brie: substitute lentils stewed with lemon juice and pepper for your salmon, and your example meal is suddenly vegan, and still tasty, with no added effort and a lower cost). It's flatly a lie that veganism is somehow elitist, expensive, or difficult; historically and at present, the world over, regularly eating meat is a mark of wealth, not poverty. The poorface of insisting that opposing meat farming is because of pro-working-class politics is fucking disgusting; be honest that you really struggle with giving up this particular antisocial luxury so that we're talking in good faith, and we can take it from there.