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This week, Briahna spoke to hematologist-oncologist and Professor in the Department of Epidemiology and Biostatistics at the University of California San Francisco Vinay Prasad for a leftists critique of COVID policy & the CDC. Has the left let the issue of pharmaceutical overreach be coopted by the right at its own peril? Is there any logic in young people without risk factors getting COVID boosters? How have the risk/rewards changed as variants have changed and risk of death has declined. Should colleges still be requiring young men who are at relatively high risk of myocarditis to get vaccinated? They talk about all this and more. Subscribe to Bad Faith on YouTube to access our full video library. Find Bad Faith on Twitter (@badfaithpod) and Instagram (@badfaithpod). Produced by Armand Aviram.

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Anonymous

My Lord, COVID really broke y'alls brains.

Escott Anderson

This was challenging for me in a good way. I’ll probably always be mad that we didn’t come together, and now have another disease to live with. I hope novel pandemics don’t happen a few more times in my lifetime, but especially with this performance. Thank you for mentioning Long Covid before it got too far into the ep. https://www.patreon.com/posts/link-of-covid-to-72230956

Anonymous

This is a massive fail. Prasad has done some of the most harm of anyone influencing pandemic policy. Shame on you for promoting his destructive, individualist, community welfare destroying ideas. Unsubscribed.

Anonymous

Thank you for this --it was much more informative than the last BF episode on Covid. What I'm left wondering is (a) would another booster decrease my chance of transmitting Covid to any degree and (b) does getting Covid 3x or 5x mean 3x or 5x the risk of long Covid? In other words, is there a risk of long covid every time I get it?

Anonymous

It seems pretty clear that he’s saying it’s time to recalculate the cost/benefit analysis on the Covid measures the government should or shouldn’t take. He’s also saying that when it comes to individual risk assessment, we’ve reached the point where we deserve much better information to consider and it will take time to acquire that information, if we ever do get it.

Anonymous

It's evident that big Pharma is pulling the political strings to manipulate public opinion about vaccinations. Thanks for the information that I have worked hard to convey to friends and family about Covid vaccines what is necessary and what is not. It's wasteful and profitable at the same time.

Anonymous

Beware of the Branch Covidians. They're irrational.

Ty Henry, aka Sports Droppings

How is it, Brie, that you've never had Michael Osterholm or any other prominent epidemiologist on the show to present tough questions to, but will platform the minority contrarian view? This seems to be a pattern, and it started with Dore. Please don't go down this road of "we've seen them on MSNBC, therefore, I don't need to platform them further." Where are the nurses? The hospital medical directors? The researchers who are qualified to answer these incisive questions you present.

Ty Henry, aka Sports Droppings

I mean, serious question, in good faith. Why Robbie Soave and Vinay Prasad and not one epidemiological research professional untied to any "movement" on the program? Just like the "Black manosphere" matter, either engage people within the space, or don't broach the subject at all.

Anonymous

I just listened to the Callin for this episode and you said a few times that you want to understand why people on the socialist Left are critical of Prasad and that you have “no dog in this fight”. You mentioned that you found doing research on Covid was difficult and that no one at The Lever, The Intercept etc had done any coverage— it’s true, there hasn’t been much coverage from the Left on this. There are experts out there though! I hope you’ll consider having on any of these people who write and think about Covid from a Left perspective: Gregg Gonsalves, Julia Raifman, Theresa Chapple, Stephen Thrasher, Justin Feldman, Abby Cartus, Uchi and Oni Blackstock. There’s even Ed Yong or Katherine Wu, who’ve done deep dives on this at The Atlantic - in direct contradiction of the prevailing view there, which is more market-based and individualistic and “over” Covid.

Anonymous

A lot of callers on thecallin show mischaracterized outrage overPrasad’s appearance as coming from people who were “zero covid,” “CDC stenographers,” and “don’t care about working people.” That’s not true either. I don’t know a single informed Leftist advocating for maintenance of public health protections that doesn’t also advocate for better worker protections and mandatory (or govt funded) paid sick leave, along with medicare for all, etc. I also don’t know a single person in the debate who thinks CDC or Fauci haven’t done incredible damage to the cause of public health by letting political and economic concerns guide their decisions. We *know* the Delta CEO pushed CDC to roll back isolation guidelines; we *know* business leaders are against mandatory paid sick leave and workplace protections. Prasad’s angle -focused protection or whatever it’s called- is functionally where Biden and CDC public health policy is now - a “you do you” approach that imagines a separate, static class of “vulnerable” people who can be put behind a force field. Biden said the pandemic is over and all of his policies mostly reinforce that viewpoint. That’s diametrically opposed to the public health leftist view.