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Full Video: Roger Waters on Bad Faith (Patreon)

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2022-11-14 17:02:00
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Full video for patrons only! See you tonight on callin! Lets tall about this and all the student debt twitter idiocy. 

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I spoke to Roger Waters, activist and co-founder of progressive rock band Pink Floyd, about his recent spate of powerful, controversial media appearances about American foreign policy. How has he managed to use his fame to go where most progressives aren't allowed, and how has he managed to stay the course after so much pushback from the establishment?

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Anonymous

Cringe and embarrassing. Please somebody put this dinosaur out to pasture. His political commentary isn't anything insightful, just cliche after cliche. Please Brie, get qualified experts, not these celebrity fossils looking to expand their brand. That CNN fiasco was the best thing to happen to Waters in years.

Anonymous

Fantastic interview

Anonymous

Can't wait for Brie's inevitable interview with George Galloway they can together salute Putin for his courage, his strength, his indefatigably.

Anonymous
>>95618518

Wow.What a substance filled and intriguing comment! So insightful!

Anonymous
>>95618518

I guess Galloway's boot licking was a little too on the nose, even for you.

Anonymous
>>95616798

You mean qualified PROPAGANDISTS? Former military who are mouthpieces for Raytheon? Who exactly do you think more war, more death, more destroyed lives - helps? It's frightening how easily some people can be duped into supporting War, while people in Flint STILL cannot drink their water after 8 YEARS. How anyone can still believe the shit coming out of MSM and their online Pet Progressives, is amazing to me. How many times has the US lied so that Billionaires & War Profiteers can play games? How many Wars have been for OIL or Natural Gas Companies benefit? How many people have died because of US Imperialism? How many? I guess Europe would rather freeze to death or pay sky-high prices for energy this winter so that - what? I didn't even mention the whole Nuclear Armageddon thingey - not a big deal, I guess.

Anonymous
>>95616798

Listen, everyone who disagrees with my dog shit take is a propagandist and it's impossible to simultaneously hold positions that I believe are contradictory.

Anonymous
>>95616798

Given that Roger Waters is 79 years old, financially-secure, well-known, and is able to play out as he chooses, I doubt that he is particularly concerned with "expanding [his] brand."

Anonymous
>>95618518

I am awed at Tom Emilio's ability to create and savage straw arguments with feral ferocity. Go get 'em tiger. ;-)

Michelle B

Love the episode! Going to make the same point I made on the callin last time ... There is no ethical intervention on the part of America. We need to be honest about why America goes in and who is profiting off of them going in. I think an amazing interview for you would be with Ben Norton of multi-polarista and Aaron Good of American Exception. They can speak to Ukraine but also the history of this coup subject generally and how it works each time and who profits. Because pretending that the framing of American intervention is ever humanitarian is the biggest mistake we can make on the left. This is never why it happens. The direct profit off of these coups is so easy to track. And when you realize how many times we've done it for the exact same reasons, what the role of the CIA is and the fact that we in literally every case are arming the right wing extremists who are against our interest as leftists. We go in to privatize. We go in so American companies can secure profit and we offer loan terms that strip these countries of anything that could resemble sovereignty. If you can't go and vote for your government to not do austerity any longer, you are not living in a democracy. We all know this. I don't understand why we get confused about it elsewhere. The first Hitler/facist regimes were stopped by Russia... They are no longer a leftist state, but they are certainly more likely to be fighting against it than America. America certainly didn't and won't. We don't have any examples of American intervention that are ethical. In fact our oligarchs heavily funded Hitler. And we absolutely represent the Facist state of neo-colonialism being pushed onto the rest of the world. The story about how is and the good allies united to stop genocide is just objectively a matter of propaganda and not reality. The way the war was fought by America and the British was to do a maximum amount of damage in terms of human life and infrastructure. We still behave in that way although We do seem to be trying to minimize our own soldiers involvement at the expense of citizens of other countries or using drones. And we didn't remove much of the oligarchic power structure that existed in these governments that we defeated. We didn't give any help to the Russians who did defeat Hitler because of the very fact that their government was leftist in principal... Which America considered a threat. And we took calculated steps to profit, and had minimal exposure to the consequences of our wars. Which seems to be the most consistently true thing that our leaders are completely willing to say out loud... Fight them there so we don't have to fight them here. That's how we made money. We are representing the wrong side of the future of a fight against fascism and neoconservative and neoliberal political hegemony. The question we need to be asking ourselves is how do we stop our country from stripping all these people of democracy and installing austerity governments around the world at the expene of the working class people. That is what our country is doing. We are the ones who don't sign the human rights treaties that say that food is a human right. We are the ones breaking nuclear agreements. We are the ones dropping nukes. We are the ones undermining democracy. We are the ones starving people with sanctions and stealing their resources. The place where you can make the most compelling arguments that genocide is actively happening... Yemen, Palestine and some of what's happening to indigenous cultures in Africa where we are going into strip out lithium - in every one of those places, America is at least the most significant factor in enabling the genocide by providing weapons and funding and supporting genocidal leaders ... if we aren't doing it directly ourselves. I don't like these analogies because it's like if Hitler was making an argument about when Hiltlarian Germany should intervene to stop genocide they were doing. We are the problem. Not the only problem...but the main problem. We are the facists now! What we need to focus on is stopping our country from doing more harm. The fact that we view ourselves as having a positive potential role at all is just some really sick version of propaganda.

Anonymous
>>95618518

You can think what you like about George Galloway (he's an acquired taste and can be quite opinionated) but a boot licker he is not. You obviously think you're a straight talker but a straight line, more often than not, points in the wrong direction. You don't know what you're talking about.

Anonymous

Being aware doesn't mean we have to focus on stopping all the bad stuff or get depressed. Conquering is part of the old story. Focus on local connections and when the time is right- the awareness will pay off.

Anonymous

Roger is awesome! Love his realness. Hahaha

Anonymous
>>95618518

George Galloway to Saddam Hussein in 1994 despite knowing of his genocide, his war crimes, his cruelty towards his own people. "Sir, I salute your courage, your strength, your indefatigably, and I want you to know that we are with you" George Galloway to on Bashar Al-Assad, despite knowing of who and what he was capable of, "Syria is lucky to have Bashar Al-Assad as her leader"... Yes, very lucky indeed. No boot licking here... Principled anti-imperialism and a genuine concern for the working class of the world.

Anonymous

Excellent conversation. Roger has his finger on the pulse, is very well read and is possessed with intelligent passion.

Anonymous

Roger is so honest and speaks so frankly about important ideas that are so obvious, we often miss getting to the reality with overthink and word salad. This was excellent. Thank you.

Anonymous

I love when Briahna says “I’ve been struggling this week” — typical of the fact that she is always working to understand better. Not doctrinaire, ossified.

Anonymous

As an artist, and a huge fan of Pink Floyd, I am so enlivened by the passion that still drives him and his art…and the fact that he never sold out, and never will.

Cory

He's 79??? Man, he looks great for his age!! He speaks and moves like someone in his 50s (disregarding cosmetic surgery which he can obviously afford) Pretty incredible since I always thought the point of being a rock star was that you destroyed yourself with drugs and booze. May this man live 30 more years.

Anonymous

My entire career has been working with a marginalized population. (And I’m older and tired of fighting a losing battle) I support the guests views I very much agree with the depiction of what America is has been and becoming and I fight that as much as I can in my tiny itty bitty corner of my world. At the vehement reiteration of the statement made “AMERICA “IS” IMMORAL AMERICA IS IMMORAL AMERICA IS IMMORAL my tired defeated brain took it personally. Just want to say for the record some of us that don’t do circuit advocacy do care and have morals