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DEBATE: Did the Squad BETRAY Rail Workers?

Seattle city counsel & Socialist Alternative member Kshama Sawant joins Bad Faith to debate the strategy, adopted by most of the squad, to vote for the union crushing TA that averted a legal rail workers strike. Ryan Grim has been accused of "running cover" for the squad members' strategy, while Kshama Sawant argued their vote for a union voting bill was a clear betrayal. Is Ryan right to say it made sense for the squad to follow the advice of some union members who wanted them to adopt that strategy? Or is Kshama right to call that "political gaslighting?" Ryan joins the conversation about half an hour in, and it's a hot but productive conversation. you wont want to miss it. Subscribe to Bad Faith on YouTube to access our full video library. Find Bad Faith on Twitter (@badfaithpod) and Instagram (@badfaithpod). Theme by Nick Thorburn (@nickfromislands)

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Anonymous

Great thumbnail? Or greatest thumbnail?

Anonymous

So hard to watch Ryan Grim embarrass himself like this. I genuinely want the guy to be better for his own sake. Why does he do this to himself?

Anonymous

Biden could sign an executive order granting railroad workers sick leave. Explain that-length, time, permanent?

Anonymous

No Bill should have been written. Democrats not supporting strikes here are not Democrats. Democrats work for Wall Street, not you. Wall Street sluts. Ryan also lack principles and integrity like AOC and Jayapal. Same shit team.

Bob K Ross

Youre both kinda right...

Randy Hendrickson

It's simple. There's more solidarity between the squad and the Dem leadership than there is solidarity between the squad and labor.

Anonymous

This was amazing I am so sorry I missed the Callin for this episode. Bri please have more episodes in this format because it provided the space to drill down on values in these arguments. I have never seen Ryan Grim looking so… GRIM! The man was pressed for sure!! After a point I was dismayed as he continued to defend his dwindling point about there being a small group if workers who wanted the Squad to preform the congressional shenanigans that gave Progressives cover to vote for breaking the strike. Kshama’s point is quite salient: disingenuous politicians need reporters affording them the benefit of the doubt instead of pressing them them on why they are not living up to the promises they made to get elected.

Anonymous

It is so frustrating to watch Ryan be unable to hear what Kshama and Bri are saying. Intentional - maybe/probably - but also I think it is the difference between those who are so embedded in the dominant ideology that they cannot conceive any interrogation outside the acceptable parameters of debate. They completely believe in the narrative myth that incrementalism - that next carrot - will work. This is very much a debate between those who have chosen the red pill and those who refuse to acknowledge anything other than the blue one.

Anonymous

Hey B! Long time, first time. Subscribed right after listening to this incredible episode. When he said "what fantasy do you live in?" I was grateful that Ryan was out of Kshama's physical reach. She would have killed him with a rusty spoon, and I hate to say that a part of me would have liked it.