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President of Intercept Brazil Andrew Fishman & Jacobin columnist Branko Marcetic join Briahna for a deep dive into Brazil's version of 1/6. Was it, in fact, a legitimate coup attempt? And what role did social media play in the storming of Brazil's capital? Then we pivot to a philosophical conversation about the role Brazil's speech laws, which allow for many more constraints on speech than our own first amendment does, are a better match for a country that has recently experienced an actual military coup. Is the commitment to free speech absolutism so common in America a product of political naivety in a country that's never really experienced the full potential consequences of home grown fascism? Does the first amendment provide protections that sincerely protect minority views, or does it just create the perception that speech is free at the same time that tech platforms, news papers owned by billionaires, and corporate campaign spending neuter dissident voices? Are Glenn Greenwald's criticisms of limitations on speech occurring in Brazil overly reliant on a US lens/speech framework? Or is there a there there?

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Produced by Armand Aviram.

Theme by Nick Thorburn (@nickfromislands).

Comments

Anonymous

Thanks so much for covering Bri! Was v interesting. Would love to listen to an ep with some Latin leftists as guests. I like Branko and all (the other guy slightly less ha) but either way it’s asking non latines about LA and their perspectives seem a bit limited. Maybe someone from Kawsachun news? Some wild shit happening in Bolivia, Argentina, MX, etc. - would make for an interesting ep. I’m not Latina but as a leftist I find the politics there v fascinating (and often a bit more inspiring than that of the US).

Sarah Jarrett

Not sure how to contact Briahna the best, but on rising you mentioned peoples satisfaction with medicare advantage plans. Those plans are private administration of medicare and pretty corrupt. This is is a poorly understood part of our insurance system that enrages me as an APRN in a nursing home regularly as it hides behind unecessary complexity. Geripals podcast addressed this issue really well. Love your work!! https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9nZXJpcGFsLmxpYnN5bi5jb20vcnNz/episode/OGY3YzUwODEtODlkMi00ODJhLWI3OGQtODRmYTlmZGFkMzcz?ep=14

Jared

Thanks for outing yourself as a rightwing authoritarian

Jared

Swastikas are an ancient symbol that are still used by many different cultures and religions. A swastika hasn’t ever hurt anyone. Stop thinking in terms if symbols because that’s exactly how fascists want people to think

Anonymous

Having not listened yet, what I gather from the description, is that we are becoming Brazil and Americans should just except that we dont have the right to Free Speech, and we should just get over it. That your freedom to say what you believe or want depends on the size of your bank account. That if we don't agree with Sensible Censorship, REAL fascism will take over the USA. Newsflash- The USA is a fascist country and I guess we should just accept it and try to move on. We will never have a true, pro-worker Socialsm in the US, because the Davos crowd has already won. We are all just waiting in line for the human woodchipper that is Capitalism. Great. This was fun.

Anonymous

The Intercept is a Elite propaganda rag. I don't imagine Intercept Brazil is any different. Yup, this Intercept guy is another Ryan Grim FUCK. He's a "American Democracy" just needs some tweaks. This country is already fucking gone! What is his position on Julian Assange? Are there qualifiers? I'd like to know.

Anonymous

The police are also militarized in the USA, so I don't see how this is different. He thinks in the US we have Bad guys and worse guys, but in Brazil, the Bad Guys are always in power. THAT IS WHAT WE HAVE HERE. Propaganda already starting. Jeebus fucking christ. We have CORPORATE BACKED POWER HERE!!!!

Anonymous

The FBI created Jan 6. They were involved. It was an excuse to ramp up surveillance, just like the Progressives & Dems WANT.

Anonymous

The War Department already controls the US Govt, so how are we different? The War Budget shallows every hope, every dream, every ounce of empathy or care for human lives. What is different? We need to stop saying AOC & The Fraud Squad are on the Left. Bernie is NOT on the Left. There is NO Left in US Govt. It's delusional to think Dems are somehow the Good Guys. The Dems AND Repubs are the SAME!!!! THERE IS ZERO DIFFERENCE. This is infuriating.

Anonymous

In the US, the Right always has more power than the Left, because the Elites LOVES Authoritarian Control. They're a perfect fit. That's why Dems are NOT on the Left. None of them - NOT ONE. They are safe as long as they rimlick the Elite and cover for them, they have nothing to worry about. Did not enjoy this episode. But not because they're saying things I don't agree with. But because it's pretty clear we have ZERO chance of change for the better and ALL Hope is now DEAD.

Anonymous

What do you do about a swastika projected onto a public building? If police protected against fascism, they'd pay the projector a visit. As it is, it's up to antifascists. Ultimately, the answer to fascism is to fix democracy. Fascists have less of an audience when people have real representation, feel heard, and experience improving material conditions.

Drew McGill

Good episode! Anyone have any idea what the song was at the end there?