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Speech Matters (w/ Glenn Greenwald)

I spoke to Pulitzer Prize winning journalist Glenn Greenwald about the good faith leftist (vs bad faith liberal) critiques of the Twitter Files, censorship of the Hunter Biden laptop story, the Brock Bot army and media attacks on the left, the "'free speech right" and it's apparent indifference to speech restrictions that threaten trans people, and criticism Glenn has gotten that he doesn't push back enough against the right on their platforms, like the Tucker Carlson show. We also discussed recent events in Brazil, comparisons between Brazil's 1/9 and DC's 1/6, and more. Subscribe to Bad Faith on YouTube to access our full video library. Find Bad Faith on Twitter (@badfaithpod) and Instagram (@badfaithpod). Theme by Nick Thorburn (@nickfromislands)

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Anonymous

I adored this interview. Two of my favorite people, and when they get together some of the most productive political conversations I've ever heard result. This was a joy to listen to from start to finish. This also contained Glenn's single best defense for his particular approach re: right/left emphasis in his work. It makes perfect sense and Bri seemed to empathize as now she is in a very similar boat.

Artemisia Gentileschi Energy

Way to live up to the title of the podcast. He's the most self-righteous, hypocritical, disingenuous public figure in American public discourse. Glenn Greenwald isn't the Edward Snowden guy anymore (if he ever was, he was failing to practice what he preached dating back to 2005 on Salon), he's the guy who will fly in from Brazil to defend and hang out with Alex Jones. Fuck this, I was a founding member, Briahna, but this is where it ends.

Anonymous

It’s hard for me to imagine what a child could do that I would label “irreversible damage”. I bristle at the idea that having a voice like Janis Joplin, or Abby Martin, or Glenn Greenwald is permanent damage. Bri and Glenn are great American heroes and not at all hateful, I just think maybe we can question a little the language we’re using and maybe get a bit more precise so that we’re not unwittingly repeating propaganda. If you’re thinking “but the puberty

Anonymous

..blockers have been shown…” trans kids don’t want blockers; they want hormones that allow for transition and don’t carry the same risks as the blockers. The blockers came from a belief that kids can’t make their own decisions, which is an absurdity that led to another absurdity. Some trans kids of course don’t want to “medically transition” with hormones, but they’re not who Glenn and bri were discussing. Tbh, especially if a kid wants to feminize, I think it’s pretty obvi forcing them to wait until 18 is absurd and cruel. The age of majority should be 16 at maximum. Minors, all minors, deserve more rights and protections from abuse and options. It’s weird that Glenn’s like “obvi you should have control over these humans” I just don’t agree that you should be able to keep your kids from knowing that trans kids exist until they’re 18 and I think if you do manage that in this country then you’re abusive.

Anonymous

Being trans isn’t “new” except insofar as our own history and truth has been stolen from us and we’ve been propagandized into believing the gender binary despite the cognitive dissonance of characters in the world like Pat and Prince. Totally separate and apart from that though, just this country’s own LGBTQ movement, has always been about gender! It’s like a psy-op or happenstance of classism that we do not understand this obvious truth. Even the Supreme Court ruling on same-sex marriage relied on there being a gender bias in not allowing a woman to marry a woman, while allowing a man. All the bigotry I ever experienced, was based in an assumption about the roles of gender and never because I was seen engaging in an act of same-sex love. Because gender, as we misunderstand it, isn’t natural, and so it must be policed. Bigotry against the gays is a form of this policing. I would kill to be able to chat with Glenn about that one day but I’m an inarticulate stoner so it prolly won’t happen. (The nature of this kind of cultural policing is a big reason I love Ta-Nehisi Coates).

Nathan Ngumi

A great conversation! Both sides of the aisle contribute to abuse of power and suppression of free speech on all issues, which is unfortunate!

Duborah Oya

All i could think Matt sing'n: THE YOUNG RASCALS - I've Been Lonely Too Long

Anonymous

Grifting to reach people?

Anonymous

I'm 1,000% on Glen (and I think Bri?) 's side here. I don't wanna live in a state that wants to take children away from their parents for making a decision in either direction when it comes to how they deal with their kids claiming trans ID. "both sides" need to take their ideological hands off peoples' kids for fucks sake

Anonymous

Dammit, Brie, right when I start to question my support for Bad Faith, you drop an episode that sucks me back in! (I'm here for when Brie actually interrogates and/or challenges Leftist orthodoxy)

DrSmart

How do you feel about Glenn's alcohol analogy? If a kid starts drinking at age 13, is that okay because they are old enough to make their own decisions?

Anonymous

Glen said there are liberal laws being passed that would call parent's abusers if they don't allow their children to transition. Anyone have more information on this? Where? What are the specifics?

Anonymous

I struggle a lot with Glenn but he’s correct so much of the time. I would like some of the receipts he claims about “most of the pedophile” attacks on him coming from the left?

Anonymous

I think he knows it’s a silly analogy.firstly, Manischewitz. Secondly, I was a teenage alcoholic, and there was never a risk of my parents being held legally culpable for any one of those thousands of drinks. Thirdly, I believe the legal rights of kids generally need to be strengthened and parents rights decreased because kids are abused by their parents in a statistical and actual sense and I feel teens especially are capable of knowing what’s right for them more than their abusers. So who cares about alcohol, even if the analogy weren’t silly.

Anonymous

Just started thinking again about that crazy Gallagher interview on WTF. At one point Gallagher says “fine if you want me to explain why a gay jokes are funny I will explain it: opposites are funny and having the spirit of one gender in the body of another it’s funny.” so gay bashing has always really been about gender nonconforming, bashing. Identify the strands in gender, queer, separate, and apart from any decision about hormones or surgery and I think most people who are beginning to identify as trans at this point in history feel similarly. But anyway, the thing I was thinking about today with the Gallagher interview is that again it’s always been about gender.

Anonymous

Those LBG alliance people who say “the other letters have nothing to do with us” are just fooling themselves.

Anonymous

I guess I’m saying but for sexism and gender policing there would be no transphobia

Lydia Maria Child

well, ask yourself: what else do the neoliberals (not leftists) and corporate Dems have to say, other than spurious attacks on those they don't like? It's not like they have anything of substance to challenge him on. It's literally all just "bad faith," as they'll fall on their faces if dealing with basic facts. Obviously.

Anonymous

Good for you BJG dropping that National Treasure Jennifer Briney on Glenn. Bravo!!