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Full Video: Am I a Fascist Enabler? (Patreon)

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2023-01-26 20:47:47
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Full video is up on Bad Faith YouTube! See you tonight for a late call in -- probs around 9:30?


I was thinking about just doing one callin for both parts of this when the Monday part 2 drops, but it seems that lots of you have things to say, so lets do a short one tonight. KTF!

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DEBATE: Is Briahna a Fascist Enabler? (w/ Vaush)

After Briahna and Vaush met on the set of Rising last week, Briahna decided to reach out to Vaush & invite him to discuss a number of critiques he's leveled against her over the years. The two have a substantially good faith, if at times fiery, conversation about whether Briahna enables fascists by acknowledging when conservatives occasionally have a good point, the merits of Marjorie Taylor Greene's push to abolish the FBI, Vaush's defense of "vote blue no matter who" as a strategy, and more. This is part one of a three hour interview. Part two, largely focusing on Force the Vote, will air on Monday at patreon.com/badfaithpodcast. Subscribe to Bad Faith on YouTube to access our full video library. Find Bad Faith on Twitter (@badfaithpod) and Instagram (@badfaithpod). Theme by Nick Thorburn (@nickfromislands)

Comments

Anonymous

It’s clear that there has been a deep loss of trust between the factions (left, right, and in between). It’s hard to run a democratic system when people don’t trust their fellow citizen and institutions are used as pawns of a larger agenda. Communication breaks down and what otherwise would be a useful exercise in perspective taking becomes a zero-sum game of power politics. It almost seems like BJG’s approach is to use the media to try to repair and reinforce the trust across not politicians but voting factions. And the question is if it’s too late.

Anonymous

The point Vaush made at the end (which is legitimate on the face of it) perfectly explained his position and that would have been worth discussing. However he is insufferable, very patronising, argues as a man child and simply doesn't listen.

Duborah Oya

just 30 seconds in.... Girl Salute to U ... cause he's a blip!

Julianne

I couldn’t finish the ep because this man was so self-righteous. After hearing the clips of him lashing out at you and then having the nerve to basically tell you to “calm down” I had to stop listening. Well done to you for having the patience and good faith to engage with him.

Anonymous

Dear God in heaven, what did I just listen to? I'm not online enough to have known about Vaush but what a dick! Also, I showed his Wikipedia pic to my wife and she straight up recoiled in disgust. You can call that a cheap, vain shot, but people who resort to his type of ad hominem discourse don't deserve thoughtful reactions. Also, it's people like Vaush that have made me politically tribeless

Sebastian

Vaush is not real, he isn't arguing for something he really believes he is just trying to be argumentative and gain viewers which is why he speaks in such hyperbolic terms it isnt about finding common political ground or attempting to effect politic in any real way Brianna: "We're not all trying to be famous on the internet, Vaush: "Well we all are" Vaush doesnt add anything substantive to the left critique and proves he there to be a provocateur for the left

Anonymous

You’re a saint Bri

Anonymous

I've been saying this from the moment he appeared on the scene. This guy is a worthless, despicable pile of crap. He talks a lot of shit about people on his show to make himself look like some sort of tough guy and collect the anger clicks, and then tries to pretend "hey, we are all friends here who just have a disagreement" when he speaks to them face to face. He has nothing to offer but bile and divisiveness. Fuck this guy into a million pieces

Jandrix

I was thinking about Vaush's criticism of the MTG tweet, and I realized this happened with Vaush regarding the JK Rowling Retweet. He made an ironic self-aware joke about feminism (that was critical of the left) and JK RT'ed it to legitimize her own positions. Vaush had a lot of backlash for that, but I think that changed his thoughts about where that line is when being edgy. In the same way JK utilized Vaush's tweet as a gotcha and emboldened her transphobia, MTJ RTing Bri had the same effect in emboldening her fascism. It's a risk assessment of platforming, while it could reach the followers in a positive way, it can also legitimize morally reprehensible things.

Anonymous
>>100872600

JK Rowling doesn't need Vaush to platform her. Vaush's following is larger than Bri's I've heard, but if anything she is platforming him in this instance. I would have never listened to Vaush otherwise.

Jandrix
>>100872600

Exactly, you could make the same argument that Bri shouldnt have gone on with vaush if she didnt want to legitimize his positions by giving them her credibility.

Anonymous

Yea, I don't like arguing about who should and shouldn't be platformed. They both should be allowed to say whatever they want, whether I or anyone else likes it. As a creator you curate topics and guests for your audience, but you can and should be able talk with people you disagree with and trust your fans to come along for the ride. Otherwise we live in intractable information bubbles