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FULL VIDEO: Lost in Translation w/ Erin Reed (Patreon)

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2023-04-10 14:57:18
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Lost in Translation (w/ Erin Reed) - FULL VIDEO

This week, Briahna spoke to Erin Reed -- a journalist who has been covering the hundreds of anti-trans bills that have been proposed this year more closely and thoroughly than perhaps anyone in the country. Not only they discuss the activist community's disappointment over Biden's recent compromise on title XI and trans women in sports, Briahna asks some tough questions in an effort to give voice to what is perhaps some good faith confusion about how to negotiate the reality that sports are currently divided on the basis of physical advantages associated with those whose sex is assigned male at birth. They also discuss messaging around the gender identity of the Nashville shooter, the recent dust up around the Emily Yoffe article which allegedly misrepresented a nonbinary child's experience with gender affirming care, and more.

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Karen

Just listened to this on my long walk. Erin made a number of very interesting points. That said, as far as I am aware, her characterization of the fairly recent restrictions in Sweden on gender-affirming care for minors is simplistic and fails to address the fact that it is not just Scandinavian countries, but The Netherlands and the UK that are rethinking their approaches, given the lack of sound data on potential side effects of long-term hormone therapy and side effects of certain surgical interventions. I wonder if Brie has read the recent BMJ article entitled, Gender dysphoria in young people is rising—and so is professional disagreement, https://www.bmj.com/content/380/bmj.p382 and/or the critical review of the famous Dutch protocols that underpin the US approach to gender-affirming care for minors in the January 2023 issue of SEGM called The Dutch Studies and The Myth of Reliable Research in Pediatric Gender Medicine, https://segm.org/Dutch-studies-critically-flawed I would like to see Erin in a discussion with Jesse Singal. Perhaps Brie could make it work on her podcast. Thanks again, ladies!

Anonymous

So much important discourse happened in such a short period of time! As far as I know, BJG has never presented herself to be an advocate of anyone in the alphabet soup. It’s striking to me, how much more curiosity and intellectual courage she’s demonstrated when the issues do come up, than do the commentators acting all edgy in their “skepticism” of trans liberation, but especially striking how much more she leans into the real tensions than certain commentators who act like straight up allies (I won’t name names but they look like Hanson got into politics YouTube). I guess my point is that I’m wondering if universal basic services is the way through lol but seriously I think this proves that THERE IS NO TRANS AGENDA when the best conversations on the issue are happening with a little-known (no shade!) podcaster and a less well-known activist. This dovetails into my next point about the gender spectrum: Bri is a bigger man than any cis man on YouTube.

Anonymous

Brie, even when you are covering a topic that doesn't align with my economic/political priorities at the moment (no disrespect to the trans fight), I always listen because your discussions are always so genuine and informative. Appreciate you a lot when everyone these days is just batting for a team.

Anonymous

BJG is the best. No one interviews like her. So respectful of her interviewees. I love her. I don't however accept the NONSENSE of calling men and women "cis male or cis female." Thats utter ridiculousness. Trying to change the definition , of what a man or a woman is unacceptable.

Anonymous
>>106053298

There is no such thing as a cis man. There are men and there are women.

Anonymous
>>106080469

Honey, trans people and non-binary people and a variety of other identities have always existed throughout the history of humans. And continue to exist. Here in the Americas, many indigenous cultures don’t have this strict man woman binary. There is no set definition of man and women, never has and never will

Anonymous

Thought on the point that there are few trans athletes now: isn't that evidence that the policy of forcing trans athletes into relatively arbitrary birth-assigned sex categories actively discriminates against all trans athletes? Wouldn't the specter and stigma of /the debatability/ of your participation in sports motivate you to avoid participating at all? If I were a trans teenager (I am not trans at all, full disclosure) I would feel very intimidated from joining a sports team at all, regardless of physical characteristics, presentation, etc. I would fear the cultural backlash within these athletic institutions without affirmative steps to include.

Anonymous
>>106080469

the word homosexual was created before the word heterosexual was created. there needed to be a word to explain non-homosexual people. Did we change the definition of heterosexual? No, we created a definition for the very first time. The nature of humanity is to evolve......or do you believe we should go back to the 1950s?

Anonymous
>>106085459

yes, thank you, exactly! Also, this is total stereotyping, but anectodal experience--it's trans male friends of mine who tend to be more itnerested in athletics and transwomen may be more interested in stereotypically female stuff? Why are we invisibilizing trans men here? We're not talking about them at all. Why are we treating cis women or women writ large like a group of people whose purity needs protection? Isn't that why the conservatives care about this? They want to regulate women's bodies and keep them "pure" for their Republican "prince charming" who will take their purity ring off for?

Anonymous

Brie, gotta say the one question that really peeved me is at 1:06 -- "should there be more modeling of alternatives to medically transitioning." Look at the proliferation of gender non-binary identities! Who and what discourses are facilitating that, and who is insisting on a rigid, ontologically and biologically "stable" sex/gender binary

Matt Murray

I'm ready for another dating episode.

Anonymous

Please have Piggy from Deeply Unwell on.

Anonymous
>>106085459

Trans men are not centered because the right wing attack is focused specifically on trans women. This is because it’s a continuation of the same homophobia and misogny that the right wing always does just packaged a lil differently culturally. Preying on the fear of lil white girls being “attacked” either culturally or physically has been a go to for right wing people in America forever. Americans fall for it every time tho

Anonymous
>>106080469

"There is no set definition of man and women, never has and never will " Says who ?

Anonymous
>>106080469

"the word homosexual was created before the word heterosexual was created. " No. There needed to be a word that identified the deviation from the norm. Not that homosexuality is not natural. It is natural and it has always existed. But it for some reason has always been seen as different. Heterosexuality is what everyone considers to be the norm.

Anonymous

This was a good faith conversation that rarely happens. Most of the people are bigoted and trans people are fight to provide their humanity that we can just have a good faith conversations. I hope Brie makes this available for free.

purr
>>106062246

The actual trans fight is totally aligned with leftist motivations and movements. It is the media focus on athletes and pronouns and sensation that makes it seem detached from that. The majority of trans folks are struggling for their right to work, to be housed and fed, to have access to healthcare and to be safe from violence. If those aren't leftist struggles I don't know what is.

purr
>>106050956

Why should Erin or any trans engage in conversation with a person who has no actual expertise on the subjects of transness and is just making a lot of fame and money from pretending to be "just asking questions"?

Anonymous
>>106050956

because that is how you build a coalition ... you need to talk to people outside of your group to engage politically. The only other option is to build a self-contained state.

Karen
>>106050956

Jesse has been reporting on science-based aspects of trans issues for years. If you object to anything he has reported, perhaps explain why on a factual basis instead of impugning his motives. Ad hominems are generally an indication that the person launching them has no factual arguments.

Michael Martin

Glad to have Brie ask these uncomfortable questions in the best faith possible on behalf of the people out there who support trans rights in every arena except sex-separated sports. I appreciate the multiple attempts to get Erin to address the inherent strength advantage cis-men have over cis-women and how that translates to sports. I agree with most of the things Erin said in response but they were deflections from that original question, and IMO didn't provide a solid direct counter to the question about the potential advantage trans women will have over cis women in sports.

Karen
>>106062246

That's an excellent point and one that focusing on the primacy of pronouns and non-binaries obscures. Perhaps focus would be better placed on the rights that all struggling people of any race, gender, religion, ability, or age can identify with: access to healthcare, decent education, decent food, decent shelter, dignity, and protection from violence.

purr
>>106080469

Why is changing definitions unacceptable though? Definitions change constantly. To insist that what is common sense is how things should always be and that definitions shouldn't change, as our understanding of the world and our shared commitments change, is the very definition of reactionary.

purr
>>106062246

Yes and trans folks are focusing on all of those things. It is the media that is focusing on cardboard issues that are easy to hold up and to turn any which way suits their needs. If you know any working class trans folks in your life I guarantee you they aren't running around shrieking about pronouns all day; they're working to survive & get by, and helping folks around them to do the same (just like everyone else). But yes they would appreciate being able to do that without being misgendered and treated as the "gravest threat to civilization" (that's an actual Matt Walsh quote about trans folks).

Anonymous
>>106062246

I, unfortunately, have to disagree that it is just the media that promotes those things. In my experience organizing with various leftist orgs, they were hyper focused on language generally, pronouns in particular, and various other forms of identity related virtue signalling. I haven't been involved with any leftist groups since before the pandemic, so maybe things have changed. But the "cardboard issues" were central to the operation of the leftist groups I was a part of. This wasn't always true. 20-25 years ago, I helped organize around gay rights, and as far as I remember, more or less all the focus was on material issues, not language, oppression hierarchies, or other squishy issues.

Anonymous
>>106080469

Language and definitions have always evolved and changed over time. Exactly why do you think it is unacceptable for these specific definitions to be inviolate? As pointed out, when you dig deeper into the conversation, there is a wide disparity in what constitutes the biology of what we have chosen to define as male and female. Erin points this out when she explains how many of the proposed tests used to identify trans folks often "punish" cis girls (or guys but her example had to do with women's sports) because they don't pass the "she's a female" test.