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The second streamer is entered into the Gurometer. Join us to find out how Destiny does. We also engage in some much-needed Gurometer tinkering and recalibration. And remember if you disagree with our scoring... provide your own!

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Kyle Dun

Regarding grievance mongering. I think even if people have beefs with individual people. If it's not connected to an overarching sentiment of conspiracy i.e. x group is against me. Then the score should be low. I agree fully with Matt here. The Faucis of the world are individuals but they make the list as individuals because they represent the institution or evil cabals that the person has already decided is against them. Same would be true for a person having a beef with an individual journalist, which is just putting a name to the face of the evil mainstream media, which is against them. Destiny's beefs seem to be juvenile interpersonal beefs unattached to any overarching conspiracy. I think if you let that do too much heavy lifting you risk losing discernment in scores between subjects.

Emma

The new format looks really good 👍 I think my inclination was to rate Destiny high because I just find him so unlikable. But I am reminded that guruness and unlikableness are not really correlated.

Linda Sears

I haven’t listened yet, but I think he might score highest on being cultish since he has such a strong fan base.

Gray

The scientist in me knows I shouldn’t care but I do particularly enjoy it when Chris & Matt get cranky with each other like an old married couple.

Josh Lee

I am watching (as opposed to listening) for the first time, and based on appearance, I think Chris should have an American accent and Matt should have an English RP accent.

YellowDreams

Just one clarification he sponsored by Kick in a 12 month contract he signed around 9 months ago which is founded by stake.com the crypto gambling company founders after it was banned from being on stream on twitch. He talks about the deal https://m.youtube.com/clip/Ugkx4C0QWLlwre_UERgJaGS9_X6SOJIDvyOO I agree he’s more straight up about his pofiteering but I think this was a multi million dollar deal with a company who’s primary reason for being created (as I understand it) was because gambling got banned on twitch. Stake.com is an unregulated and in many countries illegal crypto gambling site. The type of thing you cannot ban yourself from for example. I don’t know a lot about kick but I’m told many of their top streams are gambling streams which is unsurprising and it’s likely they pay people like destiny a bunch of money as a funnel to gambling. Would have been interesting to see what Matt thought of that with his background and comments on sponsorship. I personally find that a quite ick.

Emma

I do feel that sexual liaisons with your fans should almost be another bonus category on the gurometer though. And that would bump him up a bit.

Linda Sears

I agree that the cultishness of Destiny comes from the fact that he gives his mostly male younger audience someone to fight on their behalf, so they feel bigger and less anonymous. And this may be my biggest problem with Destiny because, whether he likes it or not, he is modeling his crudest behavior for these boys and young men, though he is not nearly as bad as Andrew Tate.

Mike Nelson

I suggest a twelfth un-ranked category -- Douchebaggery! Nothing to do with guruness, just how much these clowns make your skin crawl!

Emma

Over in Australia we are having a 'national conversation' about violence towards women after 27 women have been murdered by men already this year. Which probably doesn't sound much to Americans but in a small, otherwise safe country like Australia this is a big deal. But what's interesting, and relevant to someone the gurus, is that the government is now acknowledging that there is a link between violent and misogynistic content online and these tragic real world outcomes. Especially as some stats show young men are committing more violence then previous generations at their age. So I think that's something that should be kept in mind with the sort of language Destiny uses around women and his willingness to punish women using revenge porn.

Tristan Brooks

Destiny fan here. I think this was pretty fair. The cultishness is pretty easy to admit. I think the nature of streaming lands most streamers of note 3 or higher. The Galaxy-Brainess is a tough one. He is almost always ready to give a take but this is usually something he disclaims and represents a starting point that we usually see change/refine over time. All in all great video!