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We get put in our place by an old champion, who reminds us why they are the king. Also this episode:

Chris' post-conference thoughts on the UK

Matt's Great American Burger Giveaway

Non-Tribal Joe Rogan meets Jimmy Dore

Lex Fridman meets Ivanka Trump

The UK election and the heterodox response

Jordan Peterson and the spiritual kingdom of Farageism

Russell Brand and Alex Jones pray together

Galaxy Brains Collide: Eric Weinstein meets Terrence Howard

Still wearing a jacket to save the world

Eric is the one who knocks

Eric the scientist defends his colleague Neal deGrasse Tyson

The hidden layers

Gold-tier criticism and cultish subreddits

Bad faith Matt and Good faith Chris say Farewell

Links 

“Something BIG is about to happen” - EXCLUSIVE Alex Jones Interview on INFOWARS shut down - 391 Russell Brand

Ivanka Trump: Politics, Family, Real Estate, Fashion, Music, and Life | Lex Fridman Podcast #436

Joe Rogan Experience #2173 - Jimmy Dore

Joe Rogan Experience #2171 - Eric Weinstein & Terrence Howard

Jordan B. Peterson Podcast - Conservative Failings and the Reform UK Party | Nigel Farage

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Kyle Dun

Letssss go!!

peta austen

OMG Russell Brand = 🤪😵‍💫💩

Ymirsdreams

(Background up to date info for non UK listeners), one of the best sources if people listening want to check out data: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4nglegege1o Idk is this is mentioned, but in the UK there tends towards a big disparity between the number of representatives each party gets in the main legislative chamber (the House of Oiks... I mean Commons) and the vote share (how many people voted for which party). This recent election saw 33% of the vote share go for Labour (who won the most seats due to the system), 24% to the Conservatives, and 14% to Reform. Given the current system, Labour would most likely have won, but were the system representative by percentage and Reform to not had formed, it would have likely been another Conservative win.

Nina Davies

I have never heard old Nigel described as a Christian defender of democracy before. Mostly he likes his image to be that of 'normal bloke down the pub' or 'weirdo with binoculars watching refugees in small boats cross the channel.' Being extremely relieved by yesterday's election result, I enjoyed listening to reform voters phone into LBC and insist that Old Nige was not PM due to some sort of first past the post conspiracy. They have that in common with Chomsky and his conviction that Corbyn won in 2017. Someone even believed they had been disenfranchised because there were no Reform candidates on his ballot paper.

john statham

On another podcast, every time the hosts make a mistake (Misuse/Mispronounce a word/get the name of something wrong) The Patreon members draw attention to it and call a ‘Flub’. 47 minutes in and there have been 7 such events thus far. From now on I shall call ‘Fluff’ any time I see one.

john statham

I meant hear, obviously. FLUFF

aneladgam_varelse

Matt earns so much from patreon that he can afford buying burgers for patreon. Wealth redistribution!

Exai

Chris was at a pub called the TERF Cavern!? I've heard this gender thing is basically the war of the worlds in the UK, but gosh!

collapsing

Really Top episode- just finished- so much good new material- Matt becoming more unleashed- F bombs everywhere for ‘Christian’ Brand…And the return of the ‘Eric’… the king of cringe - forgot how much I can’t stand/ can’t not listen to his proclamations… A rich vein…. Suspect it’s gonna get more intense as we lead up to the US elections where who knows some enlightened centrist gurus who just ask questions may reveal themselves to speak with forked tongue….

Kelley

Which major cities is Matt planning to visit in the US?

Lillie

Come to Wyoming Matt, you must see Yellowstone NP !🐻🦬🫎

aneladgam_varelse

Actually you can visit Warsaw and buy me food. I know good restaurants and good burgers, probably cheaper than in UK.

Raysofmarie

Eric and Terrance going back and forth sounds like movie scientists explaining hollow earth on Godzilla

Chandra Collins

Matt, why your visit to the U.S.? Just in time for our crazy election season? Come to Cali, and I’d buy you a burger! There is a local Irish pub here, too, in Burbank!

Chandra Collins

Did Joe really say the Dems are in a cult?! But MAGAS are not? They wear matching hats and repeat lies! Ugh! 😱🤥🤮

Chandra Collins

Russell and Alex was disgusting! No matter what religion, nothing even sacred should ever come out of either of their mouths! 🤮

Linda Sears

The Russell Brand praying section was so terrible to listen to because the incantatory style, the rapid pace delivery without any catching of breath, and the repetitions of “we pray, “our lord,” or “our holy father” to fill in any awkward pauses is so familiar. This is exactly like those televangelists of the 80s.

rooftowel

The core Straussian idea is a hipster interpretation of a text where the true intended or additional esoteric meaning is hidden behind the apparent surface reading. Usually it entails reading into the text what you want to find with little in the way of evidence to back it up. Historically most of the Strauss followers in academia were relegated to political science departments. My guess is Eric’s use of “straussian” is in line with Tyler Cowen’s more minimal colloquial use. In practice it’s just the galaxy brain meme and/or justification for online weirdos to fit the “great books” into their extreme ideology.

Daniel Greene

Buy me a veggie burger in New York!

Linda Sears

The lack of self-awareness in Eric—“I’m the big gangster so don’t risk crossing my intellectual path, or you’ll be sorry little guy” is in the same conversation as “all academics are kill or be killed, but we lift each other up here in podcast land.”

Jamison Shipley

we need an AI image of Matt and Chris slaying the other academics who want their spot on the summit of the mountain of their fields. Also @chris I think you mean "olive branch" instead of "fig leaf."

Kyle Wilson

Eric remains the final boss of secular guruism, just an absolutely insufferable blowhard of the most epic proportions. An exceptionally disordered human mind and a remarkable spectacle to behold.

Kyle Dun

That Russel Brand clip made me feel ill. He's been beyond the pale for a while but ffs. I don't think I can ever watch Forgetting Sarah Marshall again 😫

Nancy Hale

An awesome crystal cave of an episode! Looking forward to Editor Anxious Andy’s “We respond to critical feedback” entry.

Cesare

Now it makes sense about the subreddit. I go there from time to time and have been responding to some of the BS with "Don't you even listen to the podcast?" Goes to show my naivete that folks only went on there secondary to the podcast.

YellowDreams

Listening to Eric this time made me really curious what their parents were like and how they contributed to the extreme narcissism of these two brothers.

Jarod S

“He’s not serious about that beer” - I burst out laughing. God these people are ridiculous

YellowDreams

Read that sub stack by Andrew gold and I hate to use a guru phrase but wow that is some low quality criticism. Does he know that the main podcast episodes are free? Does he know that you’re both academics and not full time influencers? I’ve found it quite interesting following this pod how many people seem to think that critically analysing and publishing content doing so is “not real content” or just “making money off others work”

Idan Ca

“ffs somebody slap him” had me cackling like a maniac

Desma

CERN (Crazy Erroneous. Ridiculous Nerfs) large guru collider O and I love this…I think it’s an olive branch you offer for peace, and a fig leaf for… modesty :)

Tash

The fact that the best food you could find here in the UK was Nandos makes me very sad

David Noble

You and Liam having a cheeky Nando's

Kgar

Where will you be in US Matt? Burger would be grand 😎

Kgar

“Rick Rubin is always baiting me. He’s the best”-Weinstein. Dying to say ‘so he’s the master baiter?’

Paul Sees

Think you've missed the point with UK election. Labour got 1.5% more vote share than last time, and 6.7 LESS than 2017. Reform won the election for Labour. The scary truth is that Britain is more right wing than ever.

Sam D.

Matt if you come to Philadelphia we are a foodie city and I know the best burger places! But is HOT in the summer!

Neil vdp

Decoding the Gurus, just one big, shitty cult. Shitty cult leaders and equally shitty followers. We all need to take some accountability for this. 😂

DJ Wearing

I very much enjoyed that short birdsong interlude. That would be a lovely thing to have during every episode, even interview episodes (it might be the only effective way to interrupt Sam Harris mid-monologue).

Stardustsparkle

Great episode. Disappointing cult. Could be better.

Jannik

Matt (pretending to be Eric): “don’t forget … I could END you” *maniacal laughter* 😂 great episode guys.