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We return to the world of Graham Hancock, pseudo-archaeology, and real archaeology with Cardiff University archaeologist Flint Dibble. Sadly the senior member of the Decoding team was absent for the interview but young apprentice decoder Chris struggled on as best he could.

This episode, recorded just before the release of Ancient Apocalypse Season 2 on Netflix and Graham Hancock's associated podcast PR tour, examines the appeal of myths like Atlantis, the criticisms Flint has faced from Hancock and others, and the broader challenges of communicating good science online.

The discussion covers whether debunking false narratives is effective, Flint's experiences with public engagement and social media harassment, and the cultural significance of "edutainment." We also explore the misconceptions perpetuated in popular media and the importance of academics actively participating in public discourse to counter culture-war-fueled stereotypes.

Finally, Chris also gets Flint to acknowledge that archaeology can't disprove his stunning new theory about ancient seaweed submarines powered by coral technology.

Links 

Archaeology with Flint Dibble: The Aftermath of Talking to Graham Hancock on Joe Rogan: A Reply to the Haters https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUof0k1yaNI 

Archaeology with Flint Dibble: The Top 6 Penis Bones in Archaeology https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3I9ny2O8XI

New Scientist article on Flint: The archaeologist fighting claims about an advanced lost civilisation https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg26435130-400-the-archaeologist-fighting-claims-about-an-advanced-lost-civilisation/

Real-Archaeology Event! https://real-archaeology.com/

Graham Hancock's Response Video to Flint: Fact-checking science communicator Flint Dibble on Joe Rogan Experience episode 2136 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEe72Nj-AW0 

Bridges Podcast: Uniting YouTube Against Fake History Frauds | MILO ROSSI & FLINT DIBBLE | Bridges https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvdATaRc5bA 

The Skeptic: Dr Flint Dibble wins 2024 Skeptical Activism Ockham award https://www.skeptic.org.uk/2024/10/dr-flint-dibble-wins-2024-skeptical-activism-ockham-award/ 

Halmhofer, S. (2024) Manufacturing History: Atlantis, Aryans, and the use of Pseudoarchaeology by the Far-Right. Conspiracy Theories and Extremism in New Times (pp.53-81) Chapter: 3. Lexington Books.

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Flint Dibble Returns

We return to the world of Graham Hancock, pseudo-archaeology, and real archaeology with Cardiff University archaeologist Flint Dibble. Sadly the senior member of the Decoding team was absent for the interview but young apprentice decoder Chris struggled on as best he could. This episode, recorded just before the release of Ancient Apocalypse Season 2 on Netflix and Graham Hancock's associated podcast PR tour, examines the appeal of myths like Atlantis, the criticisms Flint has faced from Hancock and others, and the broader challenges of communicating good science online. The discussion covers whether debunking false narratives is effective, Flint's experiences with public engagement and social media harassment, and the cultural significance of "edutainment." We also explore the misconceptions perpetuated in popular media and the importance of academics actively participating in public discourse to counter culture-war-fueled stereotypes. Finally, Chris also gets Flint to acknowledge that archaeology can't disprove his stunning new theory about ancient seaweed submarines powered by coral technology. Links - Archaeology with Flint Dibble: The Aftermath of Talking to Graham Hancock on Joe Rogan: A Reply to the Haters https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUof0k1yaNI - Archaeology with Flint Dibble: The Top 6 Penis Bones in Archaeology https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3I9ny2O8XI - New Scientist article on Flint: The archaeologist fighting claims about an advanced lost civilisation https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg26435130-400-the-archaeologist-fighting-claims-about-an-advanced-lost-civilisation/ - Real-Archaeology Event! https://real-archaeology.com/ - Graham Hancock's Response Video to Flint: Fact-checking science communicator Flint Dibble on Joe Rogan Experience episode 2136 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEe72Nj-AW0 - Bridges Podcast: Uniting YouTube Against Fake History Frauds | MILO ROSSI & FLINT DIBBLE | Bridges https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvdATaRc5bA - The Skeptic: Dr Flint Dibble wins 2024 Skeptical Activism Ockham award https://www.skeptic.org.uk/2024/10/dr-flint-dibble-wins-2024-skeptical-activism-ockham-award/ - Halmhofer, S. (2024) Manufacturing History: Atlantis, Aryans, and the use of Pseudoarchaeology by the Far-Right. Conspiracy Theories and Extremism in New Times (pp.53-81) Chapter: 3. Lexington Books.

Comments

Reinert

A welcome sight in these troubled times!

Linda Sears

Thank you! I hope you conveyed to him how much we appreciate what he’s been doing.

Empty_Cognizance

Enjoying so far, but didn't even realize you guys had a previous convo… also @23:30 there's a lil surname typo that I'm sure is par for the course for you by now, oh mighty guru Chris 🙏

Rob Leslie Jr

That was a treat, you both have great best friend energy 😀 its fab to see Flint looking well and in great form. Glad he’s getting the attention he deserves on the socials. If he wants us to promote anything on the platforms I’m sure a bunch of us would help out. Totally bummed about the Netflix special staring Neo from the MATTrix 😩😊 Nice job Chris, for a change… kidding.

Linda Sears

I loved what he said about using a consensus based positive to disprove a negative. Flint rocks. 🪨

Ryan Booker

I think the canoe section was repeated in the audio version? (Or my player skipped back for some reason)

Chomagerider

This might be a naive question but... what kind of loser chooses some random Atlantis believing, grandpa-esque, petty whackjob as their hero to the point they feel compelled to orchestrate an online attack against an archeologist who publicly questions said whackjob... I mean... how empty and meaningless and shitty and pathetic does one's life have to be to engage in this... I am bamboozled... There's gotta be a better way to spend your time even for them.

Joshua Davies

By the way! I can confirm there are at least two Decoding the Guru’s fans in Cardiff

Monica B.

Only about t3/4 of the way through, but Flint is such a delight. I really hope he can serve as a model of sorts for other science minded academics to counter the charlatans and grifters!

Jake Kortum

Lol I could sense that Chris foresaw an evil vision of a future “Decoding the Dibble” , yoda-anakin style, a few times

Lori Kiel

Wow! This is serious business with significant real-world impacts. Rogan and Hancock, raking in the spoils of their grifting, boosting low lifes who mobilize their troll armies to try and get Flint fired, while Flint navigates precarious access to health care to make sure his family doesn't suffer financial ruin if he gets sick again. The whole culture wars mess feels more gross than usual today. Thanks Matt and Chris for continuing to hold the gurisphere up to a higher standard. And thanks to Flint for patiently continuing to educate regular folk.

Robert Andrews

Chris, did you at any point feel tempted to say, "I know you had your run-ins with Hancock and his pseudoarcheological buddies, but aren't you just digging up ancient history now?"

Lilydale

Are other people getting a message saying you have to sign in to YouTube and show that you’re not a “bot” ? I can’t watch this on Patreon the way I have for years.

Waffle Truck

I agree with the DtG guys most of the time, but I am not impressed by Flint Dibble. Smug condescension is not the same thing as sound scientific criticism.