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We discuss the curious lineup at a recent 'heterodox' conference and the differing standards demonstrated by academics when it comes to more questionable outlets.

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Heterodox Standards and Steven Pinker: When Open Inquiry Meets Race Realism

We discuss the curious lineup at a recent 'heterodox' conference and the differing standards demonstrated by academics when it comes to more questionable outlets. Support the Show: If you like the show and want to support us, you can find us on Patreon, where we have a bunch of extra stuff. ► Patreon: / decodingthegurus Find Us Elsewhere: ► Twitter: @GurusPod ► The Podcast: https://decoding-the-gurus.captivate.fm/ ► Patreon: /decodingthegurus ► Reddit: /decodingthegurus Sources - The Guardian: Harvard author Steven Pinker appears on podcast linked to scientific racism https://www.theguardian.com/science/2025/jun/07/harvard-steven-pinker-aporia-podcast - Steven Pinker on Aporia https://www.aporiamagazine.com/p/podcast-steven-pinker - Hope Not Hate’s investigation into Aporia and related race science networks https://investigations.hopenothate.org.uk/race-science-inc/ - New Statesman: No, objecting to Cambridge’s appointment of a eugenicist is not about free speech https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2018/12/no-objecting-cambridge-s-appointment-eugenicist-not-about-free-speech#amp - Bo Winegard’s Tweet about Low IQ Parasites destroying the National Tree https://x.com/C_Kavanagh/status/1236843102679138304 - Arthur Jensen’s Bio on SPLC https://www.splcenter.org/resources/extremist-files/arthur-jensen/ - Jackson, J. P., Jr. (2023). Arthur Jensen, evolutionary biology, and racism. History of Psychology, 26(1), 1–28. https://doi.org/10.1037/hop0000221 - Paul Bloom with Diana Fleischman on Aporia https://www.aporiamagazine.com/p/podcast-paul-bloom Full episodes of DTG - Supplementary Material 30: Decoding Irish Stew, Owl Hate, and Hypothetical Avoidance https://decoding-the-gurus.captivate.fm/episode/supplementary-material-30-decoding-irish-stew-owl-hate-and-hypothetical-avoidance - Supplementary Material 31: Aquatic Nightmares, Strategic Obliviousness, & Race Realists https://decoding-the-gurus.captivate.fm/episode/supplementary-material-31-aquatic-nightmares-strategic-obliviousness-race-realists 00:00 Introduction to Heterodox-Con 00:45 Conference Speakers Revealed 01:51 Stephen Pinker's Involvement 04:49 Pinker's appearance on Aporia 07:31 'Human Biodiversity' & 'Race Realism' 14:46 Personal Boundaries and Associations 16:14 The Overton Window and Free Speech 23:29 Concluding Thoughts on Race Realism

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JGraves

oh god, Aporia has Emil Kierkegaard as a writer! Like such a racist.

Theic

Steven pinker has always given me the heebie-jeebies, from way back. I’ve never been able to figure out why, but feeling slightly vindicated now… but only slightly. Please find out something more creepy so I can trust my heebie-jeebie instincts

Guy Walter

Are the AI thumbnails necessary? They make everything look so ugly and soulless.

Paul Ditta

Oh Steven. If you sup with the Devil better use a long spoon.

Colin

Well if "heterodox" is a punchline (which yes it seems to be, mostly) you might put the blame at least partly on standard, left-leaning people being reticent to join in. I don't know how "heterodox academy" which is Jonathan Haidt's organisation looks at the moment. It might be a bit better. But I certainly don't want anyone at work seeing my name on that particular list and drawing the conclusion that I secretly agree with Charles Murray. So these organisations tend to drift rightwards. I think it's probably a good thing that Pinker is willing to engage with them, but if there's evidence he's a closet racist then the evidence is the evidence. He probably doesn't need to endorsing a group consisting entirely of people like Gaad Saad and JBP and etc. Or Aporia, sure. But like you say Paul Bloom went on there and the Guardian isn't getting on his case as far as I know. I will say Pinker likes genetic explanations for psychological traits a *lot*, so there is that. These are certainly powerful, but if it's all you think about maybe it moves you in a certain direction who can say.

Andy

In Pinker's defense, I can think of several perfectly valid reasons to be there. Can you?