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In this tragic episode, we pay tribute to a fallen comrade and honour his memory with a discussion of a melange of truly terrible people, some of whom are much worse than others.

Links

Sam Harris AMA

Megyn Kelly Talking About the Drug Smugglers

The Rest Is Politics – Zack Polanski: “I Am a Populist, Farage Is Not”

Gary Stevenson’s Public Statement on Rory’s Comments

Gary Stevenson’s Master’s Thesis & Chocolate Biscuits

Red Scare – “Nuzzi Salute”

“What a Crock of S***!” – Piers Morgan vs Nick Fuentes (Full Interview)

Jason Calacanis Reacts to Trump’s Message

Bret Weinstein Displays His Foresight

Trump’s Follow-Up Comments on Rob Reiner

Supplementary Material 41

00:00 Introduction and Swimming Update

02:34 The Tragic Tale of Old Squeaky

09:01 Sam Harris interpersonal bias & Megyn Kelly

26:05 Gary Stevenson vs Rory Stewart

36:26 Master Certificates and Jaffa Cakes

41:59 Dasha's Nick Fuentes Problem

50:08 Nick Fuentes' Racist Remarks

54:29 Piers Morgan vs. Nick Fuentes

59:08 The Two Nick Fuentes Personas

01:02:39 Father Issues

01:20:51 Nick Fuentes the Racist

01:30:36 Piers Lab Leak Ad Break

01:32:52 Antisemitism and Holocaust Denialism

01:45:25 IDW Style Credulity and Holocaust Denialism

01:48:12 Hitler was really f**king cool?

01:58:20 Blustering Boomer Outrage vs. Online Groyperism

02:02:09 Debating Misogyny and Extremism

02:12:54 Piers Take on Fuentes

02:17:11 Overall thoughts on Piers Morgan vs Nick Fuentes

02:20:15 Infighting on the Conspiratorial Right

02:25:13 Bret Weinstein's Powers of Prediction: Trump on Rob Reiner

02:30:29 Outro

Comments

Chomagerider

Yes, as a German casual listener I'm very confused by Fuentes's claim that western civilization can't be proud itself because of Nazism. It's a trope I'm very familiar with in the German context. But coming from an American? Doesn't even make sense...

Dean

It's the most wonderful time of the year. No better time for a little Saint Nick Fuentes.

What's That Noise?

Obviously I approve of Piers Morgan here, he's doing relatively good work BUT I do find myself wishing he'd learn the difference between "infer" and "imply"

Sam Stephenson

Has rory stewart ever described himself as a political scientist?

Tim Tripp

Nick is truly pathetic. He is the childish one. Piers is oblivious to Nick’s attacks. Nick got what he deserved.

Sam D.

I also didn't realize Fuentes was an incel (or did I fever dream that?). Things ... make so much more sense now.

Nina J.

My God – I always forget that Nick Fuentes sounds so much like Ben Shapiro, and that they both sound like people who are entirely unfamiliar with female sexual anatomy (which I presume is the case, and explains kind of a lot) ETA: just listened further and discovered that Nick in fact has no intimate experience with women. Color me unsurprised.

Shifter

Truly impressive how much of an intolerant moron Nick Fuentes is. The backtracking against his own intolerant values paired with somehow doubling down on those same values... He has no idea what his own stance is.

Roscoe 112

The Apostle Gary ahahaha

Nancy Hale

I know little about Fuentes, other than he is vile scum that I wish the world would ignore. Piers said Stalin was one of Fuentes’ heroes, alongside the “cool” Hitler? Huh? Stalin is a communist and the commies are the bane of right wingers. Does Fuentes dig Stalin for persecuting Jews, especially after WWII? Because he was a strong man? For his prodigious mustache?

Kyle Dun

What Nick really means is making villains of the nazis has made it very hard for Americans to be proud to be nazis. Don't forget, there was nazism at the time of the war in the United States.

Tobbe lobben

Please can we not call piers Morgan center right just because there are extreme right people out there. Nick Clegg is center right and piers is just right.

MoooinkForYourSupper

You guys called Sam "Joe" three times in a row 🤣 Tbf the comments apply fairly well to Rogan too..

Kato Lomb

I like most of your Supplementary Materials, but this one blew it out of the park!

Saksaas

Do both from The Red Scare actively try to sound like Aubrey Plaza?

Emma

OMG I can't believe how juvenile Nick F is. He reminds me of my first job and my boss had this really weird adopted 16yo son who my colleague speculated potentially had a touch of fetal alcohol syndrome. And he had massive anger management issues. He attacked some other kids at his school w a baseball bat. Anyway one night I was working late alone and this 16yo boy turned up looking for his dad. And then when he realised we were alone he decided to take the opportunity to subject me to this really graphic monologue rant anout how disgusting he thought gay people were. And he was getting himself so worked up his face went red and I was actually a bit freaked out by him. Anyway that's what Nick reminds me off. But that guy was a troubled 16yo. I can't believe this from an adult!!!

Alex H

Impressive work by Piers. I know he's an arse but he did that interview about as well as anyone could. Delicious to hear him trapping Fuentes repeatedly.

Damien

Hooray 🥳🥳🥳

Roland Weber

I couldn't bear to listen to those podcasts in full length. Thanks for clipping and talking in-between!

Jenny

The most recent episode of I Don’t Speak German (Ep 139: Bad Faith Discussion; Doug Wilson speaks to San Harris) is about Sam Harris’s inability to properly hold his RW interview subjects to account. Wilson is a Christian Nationalist. DtG gets name-dropped twice

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Mary Taylor

Thank you for such a satisfying episode to end my week with! I love hearing that little worm be made a fool of.

Paul Ditta

I’ve managed to go this far in life without having listened to Nick Fuentes. And now I can see why…good grief. But I am conflicted. Having to be pleased with something Piers Morgan has done…yikes.

George

Armrest in peace, Senor Squeaky

George

I can't believe that 300,000 of human history has, in some part, culminated in the Red Scare podcast. A truly spectacularly, special kind of shite

Future Magic

Stating that we are living in a horrible political climate—after stating that jihadi terrorism is most responsible for civilian deaths—is because of Donald Trump I think might be missing the point. I suppose your main argument about us being in a bad political climate taken verbatim is true…but when it comes to stacking bodies up, I think Mohammad is likely more at fault for suffering around the world than is Donald Trump (as much as they’d high five and likely be total buds about raping young girls; ruling by force and so on).

Future Magic

Phenomenal episode though. Am probably nitpicking a bit at the very end there.

Joanna Mulvaney

few things more humiliating than being bested by piers moron. what a world we live in.

Guy Walter

I agree with you thoughts on the interview, but is it being perceived by others in the same way it’s being viewed by us? Everything I’ve seen on Twitter has been critical of Morgan and supportive of Fuentes, and the same is true of the YouTube comments. Before I listened to the interview, all I saw were posts about Morgan missing Fuentes’s sarcasm and ignoring his points, and I’m unsure whether this is all groyper spam, or whether conservatives are just leaning closer to Fuentes than Morgan these days.

Michael Braverman

Hot take: Nick Fuentes - not a fan. Don’t care for him at all. Zero stars.

Jacqui Beirne

Love all that you do but please leave Sam alone. I'm a fan. Nobody is perfect.

Emma

Megan Kelly to me is like a slightly more polished version of just pearly things. I seem to remember she used to have the appearance at least of having some dignity.. I feel like a decoding of these female figures of the right would be interesting. As a left wing women its hard for me to understand how these women can turn on their own gender like this.

Nadim Bou Alwan

Dear Decoders, I have a small request: Please make this episode public, at least the part criticizing Fuentes. The takedown of NF and his kind of rhetoric is, I think, extremely important to share with people online. I want to be able to show this to my friends and others in my circle, but I can't because it's paywalled. Unfortunately, the comments under the interview on youtube are all siding with Nick, so I don't think it's enough to just share the youtube video lest people remain unconvinced. Would really appreciate it, and I think it would make a huge difference in stopping this guy from gaining more popularity! Thank you, iv

Filip Palla

Pierce Fuentes bit pure Christmas delight

Lucy

Now that Morgan has done his bit and exposed Fuentes for the troll he is, it’s time to ignore him. I mean this seriously. Same for Candace Owens. They thrive on the attention (as do those covering them).

Frederick the Great Pessimist

The ‘Red Scare’ segment was the most painful part of any DTG episode so far. And the fact that Piers Morgan, of all people, was the one who finally gave me relief is wild.

CuriousGeorge

I was first listening on spotify and thought “oh, just 40min ?”

Clive Clifton

If you ever do accept sponcers you should consider a soap manufacturer. Some of your gurus and would be gurus leave me feeling like I need a shower.

SHOUNAK SARKAR

It’s such a CLASSIC Guru tactic to overinflate your academic credentials while deriding the “woke SJW” capture of institutions at the same time. All the right wing / heterodox gurus do it! Ironically, Sam Harris’ website still refers to him as a neuroscientist & a philosopher. Maybe if he was really bothered by that, he would surely ask his website developers to at least remove the “neuroscientist” label right? Nah, because it’s good for business for a man who’s essentially a reactionary, culture war podcaster who does barely any research on the culture war topics that he confidently opines on! With regards to Gary, it’s funny how he does this same thing from the other side. Massively overinflates his academic credentials while also deriding the “elite” capture of academic institutions who are against the working class man like himself.

SHOUNAK SARKAR

Boy oh boy, can’t believe that I was actually cheering for Piers Morgan when he interviewed Nick Fuentes. Matt is right - “Piers is not the hero we want but I’ll take it”!

August Øyen

These Supplementary Materials episodes are a highlight. Thank you!

Elissa

I truly enjoyed this episode. But I’m torn. Before you DTG guys floated past my radar I didn’t know sooooo many horrible people existed with such extended followings. I mean, I figured these folk were all ‘your crazy curmudgeonly uncle ‘ types. You know, one in every family type deals. Now I’m a bit depressed. Like this kid actually believes what he’s saying. He can rationalise having a mother who raised him and wanting women gagged and bound in the kitchen. He’s friends with ‘Ye’ ( cough ) but wants black people killed/incarcerated/ not dating his daughter… The discourse is a dumbing down of all ideas, like a slimy sediment filtering down through clear waters to settle on the murky bottom .

Chris Wishy

Thank you Chris and Matt for the Cathartic Christmas present . Merry Christmas 🎄

Dial-1-2-enter-in-2-diaLOGOS

Another great Supplementary Materials episode. One thing that consistently grates on me with Sam Harris, though, is his habit of pre-emptively announcing that “this will make half the audience mad,” usually because he’s about to say something nice about Megyn Kelly (or whoever he’s currently defending on largely interpersonal grounds and very thin research). He then glibly positions himself as the lone adult in the room, bravely speaking truth from the eye of the storm. What I originally took from the New Atheist era—when I first encountered Sam—was precisely the idea that truth is not logically required to sit midway between two often highly contrived positions. Yet Sam repeatedly falls back on exactly that kind of rhetoric. I don’t know. My seventeen-year-old self from the early 2000s wants to cry a little. Weren’t you listening to Dennett and Dawkins, Sam? And why get so pissy when Dennett actually bothered to take a philosopher’s look at that little free-will book of yours? It’s not too late, Sam! Your rational, non-existent soul can still be saved!

Salex

The return of Matt's 'patient teacher' voice as he tries to work through Red Scare logic 😂

Salex

I think some people *cough* Sam Harris *cough* need a reminder that you can uncover what someone thinks through what is omitted just as much as what is said.

Idan Ca

Great episode. I have to say being exposed to Nick Fuentes is an emotionally challenging experience. I literally exist because despite Hitler’s best efforts my grandparents survived the death camps while large branches of their own families were gassed, starved and shot to death by the fucking Nazis. I really hope karma will find its way to this holocaust denying piece of scum.

Michael Henson

Megan Kelly should have been shut down after her “Santa Clause is white” rant. How many years ago was that? And she still has access to a microphone? And people still listen?

Sue Fricke

My one time enjoyment of Piers….