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I am sure most of you already noticed but the long promised Mick & Eric episode is out. Remember you did this with your voting choice!

We have decided to head to Chomsky next for a bit of a change of pace.

Feedback on the episode as always is welcomed below!

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Mick West & Eric Weinstein: UFO Tango - Decoding the Gurus

We are back with a double-bill decoding! That's right like moths to the flame, or aliens to a Unified Geometric Field drive, we are back in Weinstein wo...

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Kit McLean

Looking forward to the Chomsky ep. Interested to see where the gurometer lands. Doesn’t seem like he’d be up with the toxic greats, but he does have some interesting aspects that might push up a few of the criteria. He was my pick in the poll, so maybe that makes me DtG-heterodox?

Colin Fardey

The "flex/flexing " comment during the interview, reallly got to me and im glad you covered it. It really shows what a complete PRICK EW is.

Ben Godek

On the number of the beast thing, apparently Bible scholars (real ones who work in History departments in real universities) actually agree that it is a number with meaning. Ancient languages often used their letters to also represent numbers, and the letters in the name "Caesar Nero" add up to 666. And lo and behold 616 is the sum for a variant spelling of Nero's name! In the historical context, it makes perfect sense for the author of Revelation to vilify Nero because he persecuted Christians (don't just take my word for it, you can find someone like Bart Ehrman discussing this topic). So Pageau is bypassing actually interesting historical knowledge to construct his symbolic ramble.

William LEGRAIN

Thanks for this. Got about 20 minutes into the MW/EW podcast and bailed. Glad y'all stomached it for me

Riku

Is there a DTG DISCord btw?

Tim Graubaek

I don’t like interpersonal drama, but I would like to kick Eric in the shins. Dear God, what an annoying man…

Jennydiver

Bravo to Mick for taking the high road with this absolute dolt.

Dean

This one is peak Weinstein narcasism. Frustrating episode to listen to but very interesting as always. Mick West is the anti Eric Weinstein.

Heath Lancaster

Eric Weinstein here reminds me of Cartman in the episode of South Park where he keeps harassing Wendy but manages to weasel out of fighting her every time she confronts him. Just like Cartman he knows he can’t match wits with Mick but for some reason that isn’t going to stop him from being a total prick.

Brice F

Eric makes UFOs a boring subject by injecting his own idiosyncrasies into it. I also don’t understand why the skeptical view of UFOlogy is seen as mundane. It’s still fascinating. Optical illusions, sleep paralysis, the influence of popular culture on individual experiences, hoaxes, actual military projects, etc. It is really fun and Mick gets that. However, since none of that stuff would break physics as we know it, to Eric it is boring.

Ali B

Mick did a great job pushing back without getting noticeably angry and further allowing Eric to suggest he’s being bullied in some way. As an aside, I work in disability services in higher ed, which we occasionally abbreviate to “DISC”. Ever since I started listening to DtG, seeing “weekly DISC meeting” on my work calendar has started to make me chuckle a bit

Rodi

Hahahhaa Eric is infuriating. If this bs was directed at me, at some point I'd have to ask Eric why he's holding me responsible for the feelings in his mind and body. What an absolute weirdo.

Maarten Wesselius

I have listened to the episode and I don't enjoy the feeling in my body right now. But if what you're doing here is not 'fun' but if it's a duty, because the world is going to be filled up with nonsense, I actually appreciate that. I want to be very clear about that.

Maria Ramelton

Eric the 🍩🙄he seems to be completely lacking in self awareness 🤔

brianshmrian

I find myself asking, "Why am I having this tight feeling in my chest when I hear Eric speak? How can this be explained?"

Maria Ramelton

You guys are utterly brilliant at decoding💪This episode fulfilled all my expectations👍 keep up the great work. 🥰

Cesare

OMG what a whiny little bitch. You can tell he's never been punched in the face before to have that kind of attitude. I mean I'm insecure myself, but thank God mines didn't manifest into that kind of passive aggressiveness. I almost felt embarrassed for him, but with how annoying he is that's hard to feel.

Linda Sears

This was educational. Recognizing passive aggressiveness and narcissistic gaslighting should be part of every high school curriculum.

Artemis Green

My hot take is that Mick is actually an angel from a higher plane because no mere mortal could engage with Eric's bulling with such patient rationality. Of course Mick would probably debunk this theory if it were put to him - patiently, rationally, gently and methodically. In general I think the terms 'narcissist' and 'gaslighting' are over-used (and inaccurately so) but I think they're bang on for Eric.

Chris Wishy

Why do I get the feeling that Eric needs to explain to me why he is making me feel like my stomach is churning.

Mark K

Why do I get the feeling the people in Eric’s stories are about as real as the ones in Trump’s speeches? “They came to me with tears in their eyes, they said Sir, we’ve never seen anything like this…”