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MHA 7x4 (Patreon)

Published:
2024-11-09 15:00:07
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2024-12-14 16:59:35
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2026-06
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HBelmont 24

Anyone catch Arcane season two?

Letts React

WATCH IT QUICK FOR QUESTIONS WE ARE WATCHING IT TODAY!!!

yob

them forgiving aoyama and all that does feel a little rushed like pacing wise cuz them forgiving aoyama and seeing the nuance of the situation immediately is honestly not out of character for any of them but it does still feel paced weirdly for some reason

Gestrid

If you recall from season 1, Aizawa only expells those who he believes have no potential to become a hero. And, here, he chooses not to expell Aoyama. Aizawa still believes that Aoyama, too, can become a hero. :')

yob (edited)

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2026-09-19 15:00 aoyomas parents did this to him against his will(he was 5 he couldn't properly consent to getting a random quirk from a super villain),mutilated his body pretty much cuz that quirk is horrendous, and then told him for his entire life "if you don't do what he says you're killing us" I HAVE SO MUCH BEEF WITH THESE PARENTS BRO I WILL NEVER LET GO OF THIS
2024-11-09 15:24

Keyblade

One more episode and then the season will kick off for real. So excited :D

Gestrid

By the way, Movie #4 does take place during this episode, so you're able to watch that now, whenever it ends up on streaming sites.

Gestrid

Oh, by the way, it looks like you guys missed a post-credits scene here.

Limini

I think it's reasonable that they immediately, especially when they need him to go against afo. They're on a time limit, so under these circumstances postponing punishment and redemption etc until /after/ the war seems reasonable

Dionysus

I don’t really blame the parents while yes they did do this to him it’s not like they had malicious intent they wanted to fulfill there child’s wish if not being abnormal but unfortunately by doing so got manipulated who would have thought that they would have to sell out everyone just for a mistake made like 10 years ago and I feel like there being too rough on yuga and the parents

Dionysus

I just think they realized that he has been manipulated his whole life pretty much and there is nothing he could do shit deku just got done being manipulated by afo and he wasn’t even face to face or even trying that hard ya know

KallaTheWatcher

I disagree with how you've summarized that whole situation like what the parents did was of malicious intentions when it wasn't. Do you really believe they knew that AFO was a villain when they meet? The obvious answer was No they didn't. Also, you claiming that Aoyoma was mutilated is crazy. He had a limit to how many times he could use his navel laser which was no different than Uraraka's limit that resulted in both of them throwing up their lunch. Are we gonna act like we didn't see that throughout the series? I understand you care for Aoyoma but let's not be disingenuous about what happened.

HBelmont 24

Hatsume's reintroduction was more than just a funny scene. Notice what Deku said . . .

Æther Paradox

Good call on the budget saving Kenny!

Stache King

Here's my take on Aoyama, and I hope I'm not alone in this. What he did was fucked up, but he, and to a FAR lesser extent his parents, were in a fucked-up situation. If I was in his shoes, I'd have a hard time defying the request of a man who could not only take the gift he gave me back, but then also kill my parents in a manner that would make Thanos furious with jealousy. Aoyama is far from my shit list that includes Valentino from Hazbin and Belos from Owl House.

Letts React

Most of the time if a child does something like this, it’s mainly the parents fault

Ellie

So harsh on Aoyama! I do agree that him being relieved after Kamino is selfish but also I can’t blame him. He was put in an impossible situation and told if he didn’t comply then he and his parents would be murdered, of course he’s going to feel relief thinking that the man who was extorting and threatening his family was finally locked away. Not only that but he also probably thought that he could finally stop betraying his friends and that they would all be safe now. He was just a kid doing his best under awful circumstances

Butthead faxe
>>154811837

I don't think it was malicious absolutely not i just think it was so stupid and kinda selfish

Butthead faxe
>>154811837

ok maybe mutilated is a stretch that quirk js personally gives me major heebie jeebies like cuz it's literally a hole in his stomach that a laser beam js kinda leaks out of sometimes and afo knew iit was a shitty quirk before giving it also i thought it was common knowledge afo was bad at that time?? if I'm wrong abt that then nvm

HBelmont 24

You guys are NOT giving Aoyama a fair chance.

HBelmont 24

Why still no Montouya art in the intro? ☹️

HBelmont 24

Again, Hatsume and Iida is one of my favorite dynamics in the series. 🤣 Classic "order meets chaos"

kendell

i agree with you guys on aoyama! i thought this way when the episodes were coming out but evb was too apologetic. people LOST POWERS and we literally kidnapped. i do understand that it's mostly his parent's fault but the entire class takin blame is actually insane

Spooky_man

What Tenya said about Aoyama about responsibility is more of a Japanese mindset about responsibility

kon miller

yeah, this is pretty much how i feel too! ultimately, it’s pretty strange to recognise that all for one is an overwhelming force of evil and that there’s a huge power imbalance between him and most people working under him, but then condemn aoyama for succumbing to that power imbalance and minimise afo’s influence in the process. and worse still, blame him for all might burning away the remaining embers of one for all, when nobody is responsible for that except all for one! it’s that same irrationality that came with bakugou blaming himself for getting kidnapped and that leading to the afo and all might fight, instead of blaming the people who kidnapped him in the first place! there’s a level of responsibility that aoyama and especially his parents!! have to accept, and that’s putting his classmates in immediate harm’s way time and time again.

kon miller

not to mention, there’s this level of intense condemnation for aoyama betraying his classmates under duress and threat of death, but not toward endeavour beating his wife and tormenting his children in pursuit of *checks notes* “being the best.” if there’s a level of discernment and understanding that there are characters who’ve done immense past wrongs but can choose to be better for endeavour’s case, i think that same grace can be given to aoyama, no?

kon miller

@Kalla i’ve noticed this trend online where people use extreme terminology and hyperbole to disingenuously describe scenarios to “virtue signal” (i use quotations here because people almost always use this term in bad faith to minimise valid arguments) and it’s so irritating! “mutilate his body” and it’s aoyama getting a tummy ache after using his quirk consecutively. i swear, it’s like people don’t realise they don’t have to compound the situation to emphasise how immoral it is. aoyama’s parents simply making a shady deal with afo and then putting their child in a situation where he has to do the bidding of a supervillain is bad! you don’t have to inflame it by accusing them of things they didn’t really do lmao.

kon miller

i don’t think you guys noticed, or maybe you did and didn’t call attention to it (the latter is more likely because y’all are really good at catching things) but i love the parallel between aizawa and aoyama! the whole “even if you’re miserable a lot, there are people who will want to stand by your side” monologue about aoyama and then showing a shot of aizawa with present mic and kurogiri when they were younger is so heartwarming, especially when you realise it’s aizawa relating to aoyama and connecting with him further. aizawa really loves his kids man 😪🫶

KM

They sought out a blatantly shady guy surrounded by ominous rumours to get a quirk because they didn’t want their kid to be different & (it’s implied) the image it would create for their family. They absolutely were pretty shitty. Not to mention the pressure they then put on him telling him he has to save them, etc.

KM

This mini arc is when Class A stopped feeling like actual characters to me. They’re not really allowed to be fleshed out or have real emotions for the most part. They’re just a hive mind of toxic positivity with no depth & this traitor reveal was rushed as hell, which is why I really just don’t care about the majority of them - aside from the obviously more important ones that actually have stuff to do in the story besides cite off cliche lines 😅

Letts React

Bro he could have had tons of his classmates killed several time that warrants some distrust and disgust 😭😭

Forrest Carvalho

I very much disagree with them being just toxic positivity and nothing else to their characters

KM

And that’s fine, you’re entitled to see more in them. I just think the class setting required too large of a group to work with, resulting in several that literally add nothing to the story & nobody cares about. And in moments like this rushed traitor reveal, they just don’t feel like actual people to me personally. They couldn’t even get five minutes to have actual feelings about what’s happening. Ironically, the only one who really expressed a somewhat normal human emotion in the whole thing to me (aside from Deku) was Bakugo & it was played off as a gag 😅

KM

I feel like Aoyama is the only traitor reveal in anime I’ve ever seen where nobody (characters or fans) are allowed to be even a little annoyed with him for being a traitor. The whole point of having a traitor plot is to create mixed & conflicting emotions towards a character but MHA tries to just brush past all that like it’s nothing 😅

BojacksReacts

100% saving budget. 6-21 are absolutely peak. Best thing Ive seen from bones yet. I’m actually surprised these last few episodes weren’t lower in quality due to the movie and rest of s7 budget.

Minus Mega

Movie 4 is the least canon MHA movie in my heart. So implausible it could take place during the war planning and the general unseriousness of the students just going around heroing in the streets like it’s nbd at the beginning of the movie despite the urgency of the impending war makes it so hard to take seriously. It felt like the characters playing themselves in a movie within the MHA universe. And the enemy character designs were SO cookie cutter “villain” It was cute and had good special effects but overall felt inauthentic to me. Definitely geared toward a younger audience than the anime is (especially at this point). This is how I felt about movie 3 after loving the first 2, but 4 said “hold my beer”.

Titanizer

I think you guys missed a post credit scene

defnotdai

I'm sorry I really don't like Aoyama

Letts React

we’ll watch it before next ep 👍🏻

Letts React

Like how can everyone HATE Reiner but not at least dislike Aoyama a little haha (I mean if u think about it it wasn’t like Reiner wanted to do what he did either, if anything he had it worse…)

KM

Toxic positivity is indeed a thing & recognised within psychology.

Curtis Murphy

Disgust at the young boy threatened with torture and death since he was 5 years old?

KM

Yes. Literally every main villain in the series was abused & groomed from around age 5. You can be sympathetic but still disgusted by actions. Aoyama had a huge support network compared to those others & was literally chilling every day with the world’s greatest hero, making jokes & being goofy knowing what he was doing. It’s okay to have conflicting emotions about him - literally every other series gets this right.

L.C.

All might was gonna lose his powers soon anyways. At the very least he got to use his final moments with one for all to put away all for one or at least damage him even more. I don't know I just don't think that specifically is something I would make a big deal about.

L.C.

That is one of the dumbest takes I have seen

L.C.

Its like people completely miss out on the entire series. This has a lot of connections and plot relevance to the characters being heroes and if you missed out on all of it I just don't think you should stick with this series.

KM

“Have all the opinions I have on the series or drop it” is another weird thing I’ve only seen MHA fans do. Sorry but nobody would give af if sugar man or tail man died tomorrow. You can gaslight yourself into thinking you would but keep it with yourself. As for the “message”, just because something is the message of the series doesn’t mean the execution was good. This traitor reveal was horrifically rushed & glossed over & the reason is Hori admitted he wanted to explore it back in season 3 but held off until now & had to shoehorn it in. Class A don’t feel like real people/characters in this arc to me at all because the entire thing is resolved in 5 seconds with no lasting problems at all. Every other series I’ve seen nails the point of a traitor reveal. It just didn’t land here at all for me. I’m sorry that’s such a “dumb take” for you & you think that’s worth dropping a series over I guess.

KM

Literally Aoyama after just getting Aizawa’s limbs snapped & faced caved in by the USJ Nomu: “Guess where I was? It’s a secret teehee 🤭”

Stache King

Also, can I just say how impressive Mt. Lady has become. Gone is the heroine that was in it for fame we saw in episode 1. Instead, she's become a more respectable hero that is willing to fight, Fight, FIGHT!

HBelmont 24

Agreed. She's one of my favorite characters.

HBelmont 24

Exactly. That is NOT on Aoyama or anyone else but All For One.

Mekar

One of the main themes of this show is that heroes take the most responsibility. Nothing is just someone else's fault to them. They constantly seek a better future outcome no matter what has happened already. Taking that ownership may seem weird at times but it gets to the core of what they're trying to become. The villains are always blaming others for their wrongdoings, pushing responsibility for their actions away. The heroes seek maximum ownership of responsibility in their lives.

dannydarko27

*Aoyama just being a literal victim of circumstance and fear for his/his family's life* Kenny and Montana: Oh brother this guy stinks!

HBelmont 24

His parents made ONE stupid mistake, and ended up condemning themselves and their child under the thumb of a megalomaniac. Hardly seems worthy of the blame K & M are placing on them, at least to this severity.

Letts React

Reiner was too and we all hated him at first, just saying

Christian Nevarez

Not saying he don’t but damn😂 y’all understood certain villains approach to things due to their tragedies but now the one good person doing something bad cause of his parents dumbass bad choices y’all dog walking left and right 😂

Carmen

Some important things to consider about Aoyama are the parallels between him and Deku. There are some obvious ones, sure, but the one that a lot of people overlook is that Deku also put his class in danger. And sure, it’s addressed in the vigilante arc, but he was a target for all for one long before that. I’m not saying that Deku necessarily did anything wrong or that Aoyama should not face repercussions for his actions, but from a different point of view, Deku had more of choice than Aoyama ever did. Kirishima points out “did any of us turn our backs on Deku when we found out he was that he was quirkless” I think a lot of people see that as a false equivalency of the two, but I think it holds merit. They both wanted to be hero’s, and in following their dreams they put people in danger, just under very different circumstances. Just something to think about.

Ellie

Tbf Reiner actively killed people lmao (rip Marco). But both him and Aoyama were absolutely victims of their respective circumstances and deserve empathy. I don’t particularly like or dislike aoyama, I just dont blame him for acting like a scared child bc that’s what he was

Spooky_man

You are definitely not ready for what gonna happen! 😁 Enjoy!

JoeCrazy

This may have to do with cultural differences, considering that Japan has a bit more of a collective mindset than an individualist one like in the west. Not saying it's good or bad, it's just that the Japanese will tend to put the blame on a whole group than an individual. Like how over there if a company has one bad employee that makes a massive mistake, the blame falls on the whole and not on the individual. It's just one of those things that you can kinda see in a lot of anime, especially when they have the whole "no it's not his fault, it's our fault" scene. Just something you'd expect in a lot of anime, but how well it's implemented will vary from show to show.

Carmen

I just keep thinking of more things about Aoyama’s story that I want to point out. While I think it’s fair to be angry at him, I think you gotta consider the courage it took for him to do certain things throughout the series. If it got back to All for One that he tried to stop the league from taking Bakugo and Tokoyami, he definitely would have put himself and his parents in great danger. But he did it anyway because we know he never wanted to hurt his class. Also, I think people overlook a very significant contribution of his, the reason a significant portion of class 1A is even able to do hero work, is because of Aoyama. He brought the class together at the provisional exam. you could argue they’d still end up having to be hero’s anyways, but the season 6 war DEFINITELY would have been even more disastrous if all of class 1-A wasn’t able to be mobilized. I think it’s kind of cool that while he helped destroy hero society, he also helped build the next generation of great heroes at the school that is most connected to hero society. This show is really good. That’s all.

renuzui

I get what you mean, but a) the only character who lost their powers was All Might and that had nothing to do with Aoyama and his family or even AFO. All Might was always going to lose his powers no matter what. He even says this himself to Bakugo at one point. And b) as others have already pointed out, the class feeling a shared responsibility for “failing” Aoyama in a way is moreso based on Japan’s culture and their way of thinking. And it’s not the first time the series has done this either. It is similar to what the class was trying to do to help Deku during his vigilante arc lol.

renuzui

@ kruz miller - Exactly!! Thank you!!! You’ve summed up how I feel, but much more eloquently lol. It’s especially weird for me to see Kenny and Montana’s reactions to this when we’ve seen them be understanding towards characters like Shigaraki, Nagant, and Dabi. I, too, feel strong sympathy for those characters—however I also recognize that all three of them are grown adults continuing to choose to make these horrible decisions. Versus Aoyama whose parents are much more at fault than he is and who is still very much a child who is suffering through all of this. Obviously Aoyama (and his parents) made mistakes, but one of the messages this show continues to put out there is that no one is beyond redemption and that everyone deserves a second chance.

renuzui

Gotta say, I’m shocked and a little disappointed that you’ve chosen to write off Aoyama so easily lol. Like, yes he’s made mistakes but his parents and AFO especially are much more at fault than he is. I’ve been watching your reactions for a while and—like myself—you two always seem to show at least SOME grace and sympathy to characters such as Nagant, Shigaraki, and Dabi due to their pasts. So I don’t really get why you aren’t showing that same level of understanding and sympathy towards Aoyama. Especially since unlike the other three characters I mentioned, he’s still just a young kid. One who did not make the decision to follow AFO himself. Also he has absolutely nothing to do with All Might losing his powers lol. When Bakugo was taking the blame for that, All Might stated himself that he was always going to lose his powers no matter what. It had nothing to do with what Aoyama or his parents did. They shouldn’t be blamed for that at all.

Letts React

Literally would not have captured Bakugo and prompted the rescue mission if not for Aoyama selling them out, thus leading to allmight losing his powers faster than he would have. Sure he was gonna lose them, but it was def faster than it would have been. Also, we aren’t writing him off, we are just pissed at him for doing this all this time (much like Reiner even if it was not something he wanted to do he didn’t have the bravery to stand up and stop it) but we are WAY more pissed at the parents for forcing him to do so. Like I get wanting to believe in redemption and he totally can have redemption, but at the very least you have to be a little upset that he sold out all of his classmates several times, Deku could have died fighting muscular, Aizawa could have died due to the nomu, and allmight could have died due to him selling them out at camp. My question for you is, had Deku and Aizawa and allmight died, would you still find it odd we are upset at Aoyama? If the answer is no, then you are forgiving him based off of luck not what he did

Anonymous

funny how they didn’t notice nejire’s character design change lol

Robert

I disagree. Because this mirrors the class's struggle regarding Bakugo's kidnapping and flippin It. In that now; compared to before...the class after everthing they've been through over a year since, be it training, arguing, laughing etc...are alot more stronger, closer and concrete with their goals as Heroes. They're still the solid, likable and fun characters in their own respects from before. And since their time at UA, are now always trying to bolster one another and reach out to help holistically, be it amongst themselves and to others. ESPECIALLY when learning about Aoyama's predicament and the why, despite on what he's done. I do think the traitor reveal was rushed, but still is used effectively [as much as it could really] because it still lifts Aoyama as a character, and highlights Class A as proper heroic figures, than just the fledgling teenagers they started as. Again showing progress rather than stagnation. And really starting to challenge and do the things what it has been setting up and is trying to convey as of lately in the story.

Aby

I understand being angry at him, it just seems a bit contradictory, because Dabi did actually kill like 30 people but you were much more understanding of him.

renuzui

@ Letts React - I mean, to be fair, Aoyama actually attempted to rescue Bakugo during the training camp (and he succeeded in saving Tokoyami). Whether or not you believe Aoyama’s actions somehow “[lead] to allmight losing his powers faster than he would have”—I still think it’s wrong to blame him for it tbh. Since, again, the series outright tells us that All Might was going to lose his powers regardless of what any other character did. It’s like blaming Eri for the loss of Mirio’s powers imo. And of course Aoyama “didn’t have the bravery to stand up” to AFO. We’ve seen what that character is capable of. And even Aoyama’s parents are afraid of him (reminding you again that Aoyama is still just a child in this entire situation). Can’t really blame that family for being terrified when they saw AFO nearly kill their previous number 1 hero lol. And I’m not saying you two aren’t allowed to be upset. Of course I, and a lot of other fans, were at first as well. And it obviously would have changed things if a fan favorite had been killed off during the training camp arc. I’m sure Aoyama’s character would be facing much more severe consequences had something like that happened. But like I said before, I have been watching the two of you react to this show for a while. So I just find your response to Aoyama and his whole situation a bit odd and hypocritical tbh. Yes, I know that what Aoyama did was very wrong. But once again, I just feel like I have seen you two show much more grace and sympathy towards characters such as Shigaraki, Dabi, and Nagant and all of the circumstances surrounding their actions (which are arguably much worse I think? lol). Yet you don’t really show that for Aoyama despite the fact that unlike the other characters I mentioned, he is still just a young kid. And Aoyama (plus Nagant of course) was actually shown to be remorseful. Heck, Deku even draws a comparison between Aoyama and Nagant. He says something to Aoyama about Nagant still having the heart of a hero, despite AFO breaking her spirit. And one of the major themes of the series is centered around atonement + redemption. Besides, if characters like Dabi and Shigaraki aren’t considered to be beyond saving, then Aoyama definitely isn’t either.

HBelmont 24

I didn't wanna notice it 😪

Thabelo Mojaki

Yall need to chill, every single person in his position would have done the same thing. Hes a kid, and this deal was made on his behalf before he could even read. No one that age is making a decision that will get their parents killed, hero this and that but that’s all for one, he outlasted the best hero to ever live and no one has ever betrayed him and lived. So just chill out a little.

WhateverIFeelLike

I don’t know why people blame Aoyama and his parents when we’ve been told since season 2 that these people are AFO’s victims and not the ones to blame, AFO is. They literally hammer this point home throughout the series with both Yuichi and All Might, the two people who know AFO best, saying once AFO gets his claws into someone there’s no escape. We literally see Yuichi get pushed to the ground by AFO’s subordinate as he tries desperately to warn two men not to listen to his older brother Aoyama is a 15 year old kid who was told from age 5 if he didn’t do what this man said he would torture and murder him and his parents showing him photos of what it will look like if he disobeys. Even if you stand up against him and are somehow successful, his followers simply go after you to finish the job. We literally even see AFO bragging to Yuichi about how his followers blew up a building full of people trying to stand against him without him having to say a word Even if Aoyama did come forward and tell the truth before leaking any information, there’s no information he could provide that would help capture AFO and there’s nothing the heroes or police could do to protect him and his family. AFO literally tracked down Nana Shimura’s family just to use them against All Might. You don’t think he’d track down the Aoyama’s and turn them into Nomu just to fuck with Deku, because that’s absolutely something he would do It’s also not his parents fault as AFO literally makes people think he’s their only friend in the world so they’ll do whatever he says. They simply wanted a better life for their kid and were tricked The only person who deserves any blame here is AFO

ColbyJackCheese

I love rewatching every single one of your guys' reactions, and that includes this episode. I hope you two aren't discouraged by some disagreements over Aoyama's character. I think it's important to remember that these two are reacting to it for the first time RN. Many of us have the privilege of sitting in this revelation for weeks to process. In addition, some of us do know what Aoyama will do in the future (I'm posting this after that reaction dropped). To forgive is one thing, to ignore is another. Aizawa was injured due to USJ- period. Tsu almost got disintegrated if not for Aizawa. All Might, Bakugo, and Tokoyami aside- Ragdoll lost her quirk, and Pixie Bob, Jirou, Hagakure, and more were injured at the training camp. It's understandable that 1A are quick to forgive, even comprehend that AFO was manipulating the Aoyamas. But I think a valid criticism of this story, and perhaps it's a cultural difference, is a lack of very human anger at first. Heroes, especially children, can't take a second to process their frustrations? Hagakure straight up asks him how he could do what he did- no one else had anything to say? As someone who was quick to forgive Aoyama, I don't think doubts or frustrations towards him are unwarranted.

ColbyJackCheese

And in relation to heroes taking the responsibility for disasters- how should Aizawa take responsibility for USJ? Once again, since he's a kid- Yuga should be forgiven. His parents, who chose to go to such lengths because of their own insecurities, should not. Deku's mom didn't seek out a solution to her son wanting to be a hero, despite not having a quirk. Another reminder, the main criticism is that there isn't a second of betrayal, hurt, or anger. I personally think we could've had one episode (this one) to focus on 1A's feelings a bit more.

Carlos

Love it when gohan the bmi hero pops up in an episode

Sprig Plantar

renuzui don't you dare tell me you completely forgot about the real star, Ragdoll!

Callum Ringsy

I sympathize for Aoyama so all this feels very intense lol