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EARLY ACCESS and AD-FREE Interview with Shawn Littlebear (Patreon)

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2021-06-21 20:47:41
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Hello Patreon Supporters!   This is an interview we'll be premiering tonight,  but we wanted to share it here early with you, and offer you an ad-free video.

Shawn Littlebear is speaking out for the first time with Hidden True Crime. Littlebear is one of the founding speakers of the organization 'Preparing a People'. He would speak alongside Chad Daybell at preparedness events. Littlebear knew Tammy Daybell, Lori and Charles Vallow, Melanie Gibb, Jason Mow, Hector Sosa, Dan Judd, and the list goes on. he takes us inside the organization, explains its beginnings, and helps us understand Chad Daybell's evolving belief system. He shares how Chad found his pendulum (hint: Chad stole a necklace), how Chad groomed, his desire for power, and what Littlebear suspects happened.  Lauren and Shawn Littlebear spoke for three hours. They plan to speak again. If you have any questions for Littlebear, please leave them in the comments. 

Also, feel free to join us on the public premier tonight as well. There will be a live chat going. That link is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOTlYHTkm-Y

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SHAWN LITTLEBEAR: AD-FREE EARLY ACCESS for Patreon supporters

Hello Patreon Supporters! This is an interview we'll be premiering tonight, but we wanted to share it here early with you, and offer you an ad-free video. EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW TONIGHT: SHAWN LITTLEBEAR. He was once friends with Chad Daybell, and spoke alongside Chad at 'Preparing a People' events. He knew Tammy Daybell, as well as Lori and Charles Vallow. He knows Melanie Gibb, David Warwick, Hector Sosa, Dan Judd, Julie Rowe, Jason Mow, and this list goes on. We'll be premiering Littlebear's interview with Lauren Matthias tonight at 7pm PST (10PM Eastern) and hope you'll join us for the live chat. A few of the things we learn: -Where Chad got the actual pendulum (aka necklace) that he used to judge people light or dark. -Hints on what Chad's rumored flight from Idaho to Arizona might have been for in September of 2019 -How Chad's beliefs evolved -The reason Melanie Gibb decided to write her book. -How often Chad spoke to one of the Grand Jury witnesses (she is also Shawn Littlebear's friend) -The pairing up that would happen at PAP events Some questions I ask Shawn Littlebear: -Does Melanie Gibb know more? -Was Chad a cult leader? -Does Chad really believe his own teachings? -Did Lori really believe Chad? Since Melanie Gibb spoke to Nate Eaton over a year ago, we have not heard from any other 'Preparing a People' members. We are grateful that Littlebear "followed his prompting" and has chosen to share what he knows with us. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOTlYHTkm-Y

Comments

Samantha Wolf

Thank you do much for releasing via youtube! Listening via the Patreon app is unfavorable.

CuriousinColorado

I thought this interview was fascinating and informative. As a non mormon I am not sure I entirely understand everything that was discussed, but think I get the gist of it. Sounds like there was much more to the story than previously discussed. Religion and cults fascinate me. Sounds like these Preparing conferences had a lot of shenanigans going on that wouldn’t be condoned by many religions. I was wondering if Dr John has a resource for understanding human spirituality and motivation (assuming he doesn’t want to explore it on a podcast- which would be awesome)…. Lauren, you are a fantastic interviewer and looked beautiful.

Joanna Mulvaney

Hang on, Mr Littlebear told Chad he was worried he had metaphorical worms in his brain? I like his style!

Stephanie Malmstrom

Poor Lauren—you looked like you were struggling to keep your eyes open during that interview. So was I. Very confusing and ambiguous.

Hidden True Crime
>>62299957

Thank you for sharing your thoughts. I will say that his beliefs are well beyond what is taught in church. they are very out there. ... It was also confusing for me at times. If I hadn't been interviewing him for 2 hours already, I believe I would have stopped to explain the lost transcripts, but I wanted to make sure I had time to ask him about Chad, and skipped over this. ... Mormon belief is that the original chapters of the Book of Mormon are missing. A man named Martin Harris took them in the 1800's. ... Littlebear and this person named Dan Judd claim they have the lost transcript. This is unusual and nothing I've ever heard anyone claim before.

Hidden True Crime
>>62301099

I've interviewed a lot of people over my career, and I would agree with the adjectives you used. . If I could choose one major takeaway: These fringe beliefs are more prevalent than we know. I hope to have Dr. John assess the interview soon, and share some of his thoughts here. I think he could help us all understand Littlebear, and the prepper movement a little bit more.

Emily Lou

Thank you for offering this. I’m in Kansas, so it would have gotten late for me. This was interesting on many levels. It sounds like they had a pretty big network full of people who had a few loose things in common - all who had their own competing visions. It also sounds like there were some pretty normal people and some extreme off the wall members who made up their own rules. It doesn’t sound like a cult to me, exactly. It sounds like there were some mini cults or their beginnings forming from this organization.

Emily Lou

It also sounds a lot like Larping to me. Taken WAY too seriously.

Cathi

Wow. That was interesting. Not being LDS, there was a lot I didn't understand. However, I found it extremely informative. Thank you for all that you and Dr John (and the Good Lori) are doing.

Amber Ferdig

The group dynamics were fascinating to me. Everything that was and wasn't said. With his health issues the rambling isn't really surprising, but made it tricky to follow. It reminded me a whole lot like the drama that happened while I did competitive dancing. Who was the favorite, who got on what team, who got the solo = the favorite speaker, who got the best speaking time, who got introduced to who etc. If that is true about the Preparing a People couple that they each invited Julie and Chad to make the other jealous- while the personalities and attitudes of founders,I believe, either consciously or unconsciously can set the attitudes for the remaining people in the group. I thought his interpretation of Chad was interesting- it would indicate from a different perspective that Chad knew exactly what he was doing and that it was wrong regardless of any beliefs he spouted. Also it sounded like he knew or at least suspected Chad was having an affair, for quite some time. And if Shawn knew- who else knew, and I wonder how long potentially Tammy could have known or at least suspected....

Katie Marlowe

Lauren, I posted a comment on YouTube, but wanted to tell you again that I am impressed with your professionalism in the interview with Mr. Littlebear. It takes skill and not a little patience to ask the right questions and find the answers, “hidden” though they may be, in wordy responses. It felt a bit like Mr. Littlebear was tethered to a helium balloon and you’d periodically pull him back down to earth to answer your questions before he was lost forever. “Woah there, Mr. Littlebear, not so fast. You were saying....” 😉

Hidden True Crime
>>62529556

This means a lot to me, Katie, thank you. I like the analogy of the balloon. While I had many questions I never felt I was able to ask, through listening to him, I learned some unexpected things, and my own views shifted.

Meg

Shawn Littlebear agrees to head the show on one condition- as long as no one radical comes on board-- enter: Julie Rowe + Chad Daybell... 🙄

Nora Ann

Found a talk that Shawn Littlebear has the lost pages of the Book of Mormon and also new scriptures. Today in General Conference Dale Renlund talked about a person calling him and telling him about finding the scriptures. Of course he didn’t fall for it. In Shawn’s talk he says he is working with Elder Holland and Elder Anderson on translating these plates and they will be available for us to read. This talk was from 2018. It’s funny how he didn’t mention any of this to you. I wonder if he is like Chad