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Daredevil: Penny and Dime [2x04] ✦ Full-Length Watchalong Reaction & Review (Patreon)

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2024-08-31 18:17:08
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2025-05-22 17:01:03
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Man... the FEELS. 😢 And what a great end to this episode too! I can't wait for next week. I appreciate you all watching with me and I'm looking forward to your comments! [Direct link here.]

✦ KL

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Daredevil: Penny and Dime [2x04] ✦ Full-Length Watchalong Reaction

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Carl Johnson

Something I found out recently, years before this show Deborah Ann Woll met and married her husband who happens to be blind.

Steve Mercier

Awwww, how cute! Bloody Frank Castle! And bloody gangsters! And bloody Daredevil! Just...buckets of fucking blood. I can't wait!

Christopher simeon

Such a terrible and tragic story for Frank. I could not imagine losing my whole family and being the survivor. The PTSD would be insane. This does feel like a finale and the start of something new. You caught on that Matt would know if someone was in his apartment and that fact that he didn't for a second shows just how quiet Electra was.

Nathan Jasper

I love a good Irish gang. Reminds me of The Boondock Saints. Oooh! I better add that to the Reactr list (😉😜) I'm just now realizing this might be partially where the inspiration for John Wick came from. Don't take or hurt killers' dogs! Should be common sense, people. Grotto's funeral used to be a fear of mine. Three or four people showing up, or maybe none at all. Now I'm like, get Elon to shoot me into space, forget the funeral. I love how Padre puts Matt in his place. Matt, Foggy, and Karen did more for Grotto than probably anyone else ever would have. That may not ease the guilt but you just gotta use that feeling to help the next person and the next and the next. Deborah Ann Woll walks into a room, are you about to get Karen Page or Jessica Hamby? Could be fun or painful either way! I love that, despite being injected with some knock-out juice, Frank was almost successfully fighting through the pain of three tasers. Man's a beast. Frank getting tortured and his dog threatened is basically Frank saying "go ahead, make me angrier, see what happens". Daredevil and Punisher's team-up fight reminded me a bit of Civil War when the German police raid Bucky's apartment and Cap is trying to take down the cops and keep Bucky from killing them too. God, the level of joy and sadness Jon put into the story at the graveyard was insane. He deserved an Emmy for that scene alone. He put everything into that memory, the good and the bad. The way his eyes lit up remembering his daughter happy and the way his eyes dimmed when the memory of holding her body flooded back and how he gradually softened just to get cold all over again. That scene was perfection. I'm glad Foggy holds no animosity. He liked Karen in season one but he seemed really happy for Matt and Karen connecting. That's a great friend. Oh man I forgot Elektra came in this early!! That's exciting! However that means we end the episode with every man's worst fear - trying to move on with a great lady and the past you never wanted to come back in your life returns to fuck shit up. It's Elektra-fying!

Ray H

Frank Castle, Elektra, Daredevil… oh it’s getting juicy now! Another thing, Claire was placed in her work’s “doghouse” for helping Jessica Jones take Luke Cage out the hospital and abandoning her shift to look after him so that’s who Claire was referring to in that scene with Foggy about having another special friend—which could have been episode 3. I dunno, I watched these back to back 😂.

Rat MacKay

He's going blind...not completely there yet, but legally blind, for sure. He actually cosplayed as Matt at one of the premiers. If I can find one of the pics and there's nothing spoilery in the background, I'll post them in the Marvel shows chat here.

Richard Flores

Jon. Bernthal. Is. My. Frank. Castle. That is all.

Richard Flores

Just saying, Boondock Saints is an amazing movie.

Rat MacKay

So...as per usual, I have THOUGHTS. I am also due to sleep a half an hour ago, so expect me to come back later and type more, lol. Firstly, because your face said everything whenever the dog whined...Jon Bernthal is a big pittie fan and said that there was originally a scene planned where the dog was watching Frank go off in the ambulance...but they couldn't get the shot they wanted in a timely manner...but the point is, the dog is safe. I could probably write a bible about Jon and his dogs...but the man loves his dogs. Drives cross country rather than flying to film so he can bring doggies...nearly went to prison over a dog. Big dog lover and if anyone wants more info, feel free to ask. I love to infodump. Secondly (and the last for right now because...sleep) since you mentioned Matt crying in the graveyard scene...please enjoy this spoiler-free clip from a Daredevil panel in which Charlie tells on himself and we all have a really great time: https://youtu.be/8mcjEfPmKfE?si=swCP0LavY7mCTZ9b Real thoughts coming later.

Chris Elkins

I ended up binging all 4 episodes at once which i good cause my initial reaction while watching due to knowing about who the Punisher was, was when I saw the first silhouette of the "Punisher" my in the moment reaction out loud OMFG thats Frank ! AT that time that wasn't known but thats what I shouted out lol. I knew we were in for a wild ride and by the end of episode I also knew it was a sad ride knowing the past of Frank as well :( The scenes between Matt and Frank were just master pieces the dialogue was brillant. Karen and Foggy continue to carry the lawfirm together its insane how well they are doing while Matt is doing his thing, really hope Matt and Karen continue to spice it up. Didnt see the Elektra thing coming eventhough I've seen the movie a long time ago I honestly forgot she existed lol. I cant remember anything about the movie other than the actress and they look al lot different :) So cant wait to see where this goes... just better not interrupt the Karen romance !

Omar

Everything Bernthal is in is worth watching. Even the little parts he’s had like in Wolf of Wall Street leave you going “Wait thats all we get?”

Rat MacKay

So...because Bernthal is Bernthal...he had to know what a taser felt like if he was gonna act like he was getting tased. Enjoy a clip of him trying to get ready to do that https://youtube.com/shorts/GE_3ivIlJiA?feature=shared And, yesssss. That graveyard scene was everything...could have easily been overacted to hell and back, but...Bernthal.

Nathan Jasper

Bernthal is just next level, I swear.

Rat MacKay

There's a reason why I'm half-terrified to ever meet him. I don't do the fanboy thing. I've actually been the talent handler at cons before. I'm chill around famous folks. I'm the guy that the celebs actually open up to (I got half of Sean Astin's life story one night over a jacket and have been glomped by 3 out of 4 original hobbits...) precisely because I DON'T do the fan thing. Bernthal would either make me fanboy or deer in headlights...or worse...trigger a full-on Autistic meltdown because overstimulation of con + meeting someone that important to me and I do NOT want him to have to babysit my toddler goblin brain in the middle of a con (and he's such a good dude, he probably would. Dad mode would activate and I'd find myself being that person that everyone complains hogged the star's time)

Nathan Jasper

I totally get what you mean. That's exactly how I'd be around a few people in particular. It'd be exciting, intimidating, and almost like an out-of-body experience.

Rat MacKay

Karen and Matt are just a bad fit, in my eyes. There's a power dynamic there...and not the fun kind. There's a reason why HR will always step in and squash superior/subordinate workplace romances. Add into it that it's a small office and, even if everything goes perfect between them, you put poor Foggy as the 3rd wheel in his personal and professional relationships with them. Apart from those aspects, they're both lying to each other. She doesn't know about his other activities and he doesn't know she killed a man. Those aren't minor fibs, they're massive and there's not room in a bed for Matt, Karen, and the two elephants that no one is talking about...there's barely room for them in the office. Also? They've been working together for a year-ish in a small office with only 3 people and they go out to Josie's all the time...so clearly aren't keeping things strictly professional...and it isn't until Karen starts being flirty that Matt suddenly takes an interest in her. The whole "you never told me you had a brother..." "you never asked" speaks volumes to me. I'm gonna be real honest...my first watch through, I breathed a big sigh of relief when they didn't hook up in first season because I'm still squicked by him watching her change shirts in the first episode. Yes, she thought he couldn't see her at all...we know he sees a "world on fire"...boobies on fire are still boobies that she had a reasonable expectation were not even partially visible to him. It gave me the ick that he didn't like...lead her to the bathroom and then hand her the shirt...almost like he was hoping she would do what she did...and I'm still mad about it. So, I thought we were gonna get a little Foggy romance and then, eventually, Karen would meet some nice guy with no double life and the guys would have to pretend to like him (and Matt would have to occasionally rescue the pair of them and her guy would have to see her go a little swoony over the Devil of Hell's Kitchen.) I know it was too much to hope for that they wouldn't go down the road where Karen would end up with a guy who lies to her daily and who couldn't ever spend the night (because people get hurt if he takes a night off, his words). I just think she deserves better than that. Karen has always been the one of the core three that I have been the most invested in. They took what could have merely been a perpetual damsel in distress character in some shows and gave her some teeth. In this season alone, how she has stood up to Grotto, to Reyes...doing the legwork with A.D.A. Tower and following up on the files...breaking into Frank's house?!?!?! It all just makes me say "Atta girl". She's the heart and soul of Nelson & Murdock and that's a testament to Deborah Ann Woll's portrayal. Atta girl, Deb! Gonna split this up to address diff. topics for threading purposes.

Rat MacKay

Frank. Jeebus H. Where to even begin? The man hid a razorblade in his own arm, allowed himself to be ambushed, gunned down the people who had him surrounded...and nearly fought through multiple tasers while drugged. Then allowed himself to be tortured...if they hadn't brought the dog in, I wonder how much more he would have endured while waiting for the right moment to dig the hidden razor out and cut himself free. SIDENOTE: I love that he took the injured dog when he found it after shooting up the Irish in the first episode. He rescued a fighting dog from the people he killed, treated its injuries, and even bought it the expensive food (at least around here) while he himself was eating out of cans. Just sayin'. There was no way he was gonna let them hurt the dog...nah. That you could forget he had had his foot drilled through because he went on to kick ass is even more of a testament to just how much of a beast he is. I would 1000% watch an entire series of an action comedy wherein Frank keeps trying to kill people and Matt keeps thwarting him like a fucking gadfly who practices eskrima while they crack insults at each other. Then there's the graveyard scene. Holy fuckballs, shit gets real. This was the scene that made a lot of hardcore Marvel fans, casual viewers, and big manly men cry. If it would have been on the big screen in a theatre, you could have heard a pin drop...plus some sniffles. It's just all there in Bernthal's delivery. I responded to Nathan that it was a scene that could have very easily been overacted to all hell and would have been by a lot of actors. Jon has said before that Frank Castle lives in his bones and you can really see that. He was filming that while on the other side of the country from his wife and kids and often leaned into the thought of being without them to get where he needed to be in order to be true to Frank. If his performance is any indicator at all, I'd say they are loved beyond measure. I both come from a military family and have ride or die friends who are current and former military...the shit that service can force you to become numb to and compartmentalise...somehow makes it worse when it happens in your own back yard. Frank talks about how the killing and being surrounded by death came easy...but when it comes to his family...you cannot compartmentalise that, not really. A buddy of mine is a combat medic and deep water recovery expert... he's had to help hold people together in warzones and had to recover bodies after floods...but if his little girl gets a skinned knee he falls apart afterwards...because that's his babygirl, you know? They can train you to be a killing machine and look death in the face, but they cannot train you to handle your child's tear-streaked cheeks. It's easy to pick apart most shows...but I gotta say, it's really hard to pick apart a show that gets so much more right than it ever does wrong. They definitely got Frank right.

Rat MacKay

Have you seen The Pilgrimage? Dude literally plays a mute with only one word of dialogue and somehow out-acted the whole cast (which includes Tom Holland and Richard Armitage)

Omar

Hadn’t heard of it, I’ll put it on my list

Rat MacKay

I goofed...just Pilgrimage, no "the" in the title. But, yeah...not the sort of film that you're likely to revisit often, but definitely worth watching at least once. I think it's up on a couple of the free with ads streaming services...maybe even YouTube. It was also during filming when both Tom and Jon made their tapes for Marvel...so Peter Parker and Frank Castle in their current incarnations were birthed in the Irish and Belgian countryside and forests.

JohnnyUtah

I think Jon Bernthals Frank Castle is the best casting the netflix shows has done. He's perfect.