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Angel 2x15 (Extended) - Reprise (Patreon)

Published:
2022-07-04 17:01:01
Edited:
2024-07-12 16:57:32
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2026-06
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Can't possibly explain how FREAKING OVERWHELMED I AM WITH THIS ONE.... Angelus sir???? THERES NO WAYYYYYY.

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Angel 2x15 - The One Where I Just... WHAT (AKA Reprise).mp4

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Comments

Khanach

Wow, I can't believe it's the first time I noticed one of the guys with the goats was David Fury!

Thom Purdy

Great reaction, Domi! This is an amazing episode! Along with the next one, it's my favorite episode of the season, and top 5 of the series! I knew, if you noticed the doll, you'd think of Dru. I did the first time I saw it, too. Every scene in this episode is good to great!!

Shaun Houghton

I'm sure someone did, positive they were the centrepiece of a neighborhood barbecue a week later.

UTU49

It's pretty impressive how often the Buffyverse makes the viewer REALLY uncomfortable. If you want predictability and happy endings, you should probably watch something else. lol. The end of this episode is a trainwreck involving multiple trains.

UTU49

Nobody answer Domi's spoilery questions about Kate... or anything else. You'll find out if and when the show reveals things to you.

Shaun Houghton

So you want the show to tell its own story, in its own time. Mind blowing stuff.

Ron Fehr

Yep, he makes rare appearances on both Angel and Buffy.

Henrik Holst

Gun was away so that Wes had to hurt himself in order to save Cordy so that both of them would be gone at closing so that Cordy would travel to the third eye family alone. Lorne cannot tell Angel every single secret that he finds out from his customers, the moment he does that they stop coming and he have to close down (and no more information anyway).

Vicky N

The elevator scene is pretty self explanatory. Angel thought he had to go to hell to fight the senior partner on their turf once and for all, defeat evil. But Holland Manners makes him realize that hell is on earth, because there’s a part of evil in everyone. So fighting evil is actually fighting humanity. Wolfram and Hart can’t be defeated. You were right it’s a crucial scene in the whole show and it elevate this episode tenfold.

Vicky N

About the location of the last scene, I don’t think it’s spoilery to say that they are of course at the hotel. Why would Darla wait for Angel at Kate’s place?

Ron Fehr

Well, that ending certainly would make people want to see the next episode. Now that's what I call a cliffhanger.

Ray D

Great episode. Angel and Kate both hitting their rock bottoms. I really love the elevator ride with Angel and Holland Manners. Angel is spending his time trying to "beat" Wolfram and Hart but he needs to realize how ridiculous of a notion that is. Wolfram and Hart isnt even playing the same game. They know that Evil will always exist in some form. Angel will never be able to rid the world of evil but he has to decide to help people regardless of that or just give up. And at the end of this episode he's choosing to give up

Ray D

As far as the ending with Kate, Angel heard Kate's message and plea for help but he ignored it. He is at his own rock bottom and not worried about Kates at the moment. The elevator ride where Holland basically told Angel that nothing he does matters has shook him to his core and he just wants to feel something. So he headed to find Darla just to feel. He's rock bottom and not thinking about Kate at all at this moment.

Stargazer1682

You know, they say the second thing to go is the memory...

Stargazer1682

So you want to know whether or not Kate is dead? Are you familiar with Schrodinger's cat?

Stargazer1682

Don't mistake Lorne being prescient with being omniscient; he doesn't know everything, and as the concept of seers and psychics go, typically they only see what they're meant to see, especially in terms of anything they're supposed to share. It's sort of paradoxical, if you think about it - Lorne, Cordy, Doyle, Dru, etc. have second sight; and sometimes that means they can use that knowledge to change the outcome of what they saw, but sometimes it's fixed, the girl Angel couldn't save in the pilot. Now if you suppose there IS a higher power(s) or "powers that be" granting this insight into the future, then ostensibly it would be for a grander plan; meaning Lorne or any other seerer won't see something they aren't supposed to, if the knowledge potentially means preventing something that was supposed to happen. Just because Lorne knows anything about the fates of these W&H lawyers, doesn't mean that it's anything worth knowing for Angel; and it's plausible Lorne wouldn't be allowed to see anything that did if Angel wasn't supposed to know it. I've always thought the show put to much stock in "the Powers That Be". It started as a catch-all term Doyle used to explain the source of his visions, because he didn't actually know. It was meant to be ambiguous, but snowballed into a term used by everyone and borders on being its own belief system. I think it makes more sense if the visions Cordy's visions don't come from anyone else, it's HER. It's extra-sensor *perception*. On some subconscious level she's aware of all the various possible circumstances that are happening or are going to happen, but most of them get filtered out by whether or not the knowledge of those circumstances of Angel, et al getting involved would have meaningful enough consequences; and it's only then that a vision is brought forward to the conscious mind. She's not having visions of every murder or assault, etc., based on if they can actually help. And this of course is how the demon in the season 1 finale did what he did to Cordelia; he took away that filter and all the visions came forward to the conscious mind. He wasn't sending her new visions.

Stargazer1682

Re: Elevator scene: Angel knew a "Senior Partner" was manifesting at the review. Said Senior Partner was coming from the "Home Office" - i.e. the base of operations for Wolfram and Hart. As the shop owner speculated, presumably the Home Office for W&H was hell. Said Senior Partner would be using the ring to appear at the review and consequently using it to return to the Home Office. Angel got the ring to use it to travel to the home office. Door opens, Holland announces they've arrived at the Home Office for Wolfram and Hart. The Home Office is Earth.

Ron Fehr

One thing that I don't understand is why Darla wanted the ring. She wanted to take a trip to the Home Office, but what was she trying to accomplish by doing that? Had she known that the trip was one-way, and didn't know that it would lead her back to where she already was, would she have taken the trip?

Ron Fehr

Yet another episode in which it would be tempting to tell you what is going to happen. But not giving any spoilers is more important.

Ron Fehr

About the elevator scene. Did Angel think that he could end evil once and for all? Did he think that defeating W&H meant defeating evil? Holland Manners made it clear that evil goes on, no matter what form. The law firm is just a physical interpretation of evil. In a way, he did a good thing, showing Angel where his focus should be. Angel should be concerned with what's going on in the world, and not just trying to defeat W&H.

Shaun Houghton

Angel was going a suicide mission, going to Hell and attacking everyone, was not going to end well. Darla if she went probably did not intend a massacre of demonic beings, so probably would have made it back fine. Darla likely just wanted the ring for power, possibly as a big bargaining chip with W&H.

Shaun Houghton

Surely this means the inverse is true. There is evil in all people, but there is also good in all people. If evil being in all means Hell is on Earth, then the good in all means Heaven is also on Earth. Holland presents only the one side that fits his agenda, Angel should be smarter than that, but he has been worn down.