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Silly History: Doomed From the Start (Patreon)

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The girlies tell the stories of two historical events that were doomed from the start: the Donner Party and The Great Emu War. From the cannibalistic Western settlers to the Australians who thought they could gun down 20,000 wild emus, humans vastly underestimated their environment and suffered the consequences.

Comments

bia

thanks queens

Jasmin Savoy

Wow blessings for my plane ride thank you mothers

cameron

feeling so loved right now!!!!

Salem

I’m SAT

Samantha Tuleya

this patreon notif woke me up good morning mothers

darian vi

yessss so happy for the return of this topic!!!

Meghan Elberti

i thought i was crazy because i had a panic attack when i saw Joker in theatres with my family because i thought the theatre was going to get shot up 😭

peregrin tokes

not me literally taking notes from that specific dworkin piece eliza mentioned as i’m listening to this OUR MINDS

Nora Booth

Wait bc a coworker of mine at the summer camp I worked at was the great great great whatever of one of the surviving members of the Donner party who went on to be like one of the first governing officials in Eugene, OR

peregrin tokes
>>135341745

if anyone wants to hav a read it’s called “in memory of nicole brown simpson” from the collection “last days at hot slit” — it’s avail to read in full on evergreenreview.com

Natalie Topalian

Used my d mannose this weekend and it saved me, queens

Luisa Giancristofaro

hii, brazilian binchie here! fun fact, there actually was a colony of ex-confederates that was successfully set up in brasil near my hometown of são paulo. its called americana 😭

Ally Chozik

listening to this while in new york it’s like i’m on a binchtopia excursion with a school

Hazel Nye

I wanna see their vlog from the great emu apocalypse

Elle Stephenson

Eliza I was at your portland show you bootsed the house!!! You rolled with those prom punches like crazy you ate

Erin Healey

very happy to be living in these modern times with no emu wars and planes and roads

daisy gomez palacios

julia you sound so crisp and clear it’s time to feed us asmr content

Ariana Seniuk

Kates mom was my history teacher in high school, with the amount of time in class we spent on the subject I thought it was a part of American history as important as the dec of independence

cam

this episode came to me at a time when i just finished reading about the dinner party- what great timing queens

avvsies

We need a 420 episode!!!

Ann

You don’t know how terrible it is to have bad vision if you don’t have it 😭 LASIK is scary but sooo tempting

Annip
>>135341729

i’m on high alert any time i’m at the movie theater. noooo backpack rustling pls

Victoria

Ok… the discussion of lasik and how “it’s just your eyes” triggered me as someone who can’t see more than a foot in front of them 😭 I am of the paying hundreds of dollars a year to see clearly experience so lasik is a good option for many as much as there are risks

Cat

been off socials this week.. so came here to let you know this is how I heard oj died

Marlee

i love when my hometown (independence MO) is shouted out on the pod albeit for unfortunate reasons

Alyz

Lasik has a 95%-99% success rate (depending on source) and is one of the most consistently successful procedures. the only article I found corroborating Julia's "glass in the eyes" claim (I did not research cohesively) was by the new york post... which is effectively a tabloid. if you're considering lasik please don't let your research end with the first 10 minutes of this podcast

Maeve Barnes

where’s the emu war video link queensts

vignette f.

besties the pandemic has not ended we just aren’t in lockdown and our governments do not care that 1,000s of us are dying weekly. love y’all 🧡

Sasha

here for donner pass content!!! i was a weird little kid from norcal always begging my parents to let me search for ghosts at the donner pass on the way to tahoe

Sara

nearly cracked up at work because of “generational trauma from the emu war”

Bridget Conlon

Ok I was listening to some older episodes where you guys mentioned folie a deux and now I keep hearing people using that term everywhere!! The Baader-Meinhof phenomenon go crazy

Rachel

Eliza I saw you in Denver and you crushed it even though you're feelin' bad 💗

MalinKTeegan
>>135361342

thaaaaanks for writing that. But that's how you know i'm PARANOID when it comes to my eyes, cause i read that and i still just think what if I'm actually part of the 1-5%?!?!?!

Annip
>>135363380

technically the pandemic has shifted to the endemic phase of the virus. and also people need accessible healthcare and the issue is still important!

Narcisa

Eliza you slayed the house down in SF last night. Also I grew up in Sacramento (pretty close to the Donner pass) and the lore is very important to us lol. I swear every year no matter what history class I took we were sat and talked to about the Donner party. My dad was also obsessed and at least once a year we were reminded of the horrors

miss andry

Julia I am ALSO obsessed with 1883. Elsa Dutton is my QUEEEEN

Hazel Nye

They literally ate in the worst way 😞🩵🥩😖🙈🥩

Alice Zhang

‼️‼️I KNOW SOMEONE WHO GOT THE LASIK COMPLICATIONS. ‼️‼️ it IS that bad, actually it’s worse, for the first year it was nonstop pain and nothing would help. he would eat wasabi constantly to make his eyes water bc that was the only thing that gave him any relief. only after a year did he manage to alleviate the pain a little. he now has to wear the thickest glasses you have ever seen (he also lost a lot of vision!!!!!!) and is STILL in chronic pain. and i have to add that this is a wealthy guy like he had the resources to spend months and years going to different doctors to find something that would help and unfortunately not everyone can access those same resources. he has said that he is in those lasik complications groups and they are constantly talking down people from the.. edge and that he can definitely understand why people are driven to thoughts of suicide over this. it’s no joke, it was really hard to see him go through that :(

briannasgonebananas

the whole time i thought eliza was accidentally saying PDS doc instead of PDF doc. i was like, julia please let her know she is using the wrong word! i was humbled at the end when they were talking about the DOCUMENTARY

laura

i’m not american so i thought eliza was about to spill about jeffery dahmer 🫣

lauren baker

please do a titanic deep dive next

lauren baker

ALSO watch Tasting History’s episode on the Donner party / oregon trail for more history on youtube :)

Charlie

lmfaooo y’all be fear mongering i love it

Emma

As a binchie who is not drinking right now because I am prioritizing my body and my health as well I appreciate this greatly ❤️

grace
>>135344556

omg this made me go do a deep dive & the americans thinking brazil would be like the south pre civil war & thinking they dont even need to learn portuguese is beyond telling

Meri

Girls i did NOT need that info about lasik i've been in my wanting lasik bag and have never heard anything but glowing reviews until.... i suppose i will not be getting lasik

Crunchy Carrot

Omg I’m dead the eating disorders comment JULIASAS AAA Hahahahah

Isabella Harvey

LADIES!!!!!!! Nurtec genuinely helps soooo much (personally) it’s not covered by my insurance so my neuro gives me samples every time. she IS THAT GIRL

noelle

‼️ I HAVE FIRST HAND EMU EXPERIENCE ‼️ Last winter (2022) I was working in a small business candy shop in manitou springs, a kind of touristy mountain town in Colorado. I was freezing my ass off in my shop because the building was built in 1880 and my managers did not gaf about the lack of heat, classic Rocky Mountain slay. It was a devastatingly snowy day so I was huddled up behind my register, literally shivering, high as fuck, waiting for my shift to end; And a FUCKING EMU WALKS INTO MY SHOP. (you can google manitou springs emo and see this motherfucker.) He was as tall as me, Huge Scary Beak, and had dinosaur talons‼️I screamed and ran to the back, when his owner came in and apologized, AND THEN ASKED ME TO FEED THE EMU SOME CANDY. very humbling experience for me, i think about him every day. I certainly would have lost the emu war had i been enlisted 😔💔

Isabelle Roden

Australian here, it's pronounced EEEM YOU I beg. Kiss kiss

Avery Nicholson

one of the profs at my school and he has told me horror stories of australian crocodiles and cassowaries… will HAVE to inquire about his opinions on emus

izzy

YESSSS THE YWB SERIES IVE BEEN LISTENING FOR THE LAST FEW DAYS

birdie

hate to be a know it all binch but in australia we pronounce emu as “e-mew” rather than “e-moo”

Genevieve Bock
>>135399442

As a bird-obsesssed American binchie, I have to know : is there a bird that is universally LOVED by Australians?

Georgia Nelson

PLEASE I never understand why Americans pronounce emu emOO 😭😭 it’s EEmYOU girlies xx ALSO when I was a kid my cousins had a little chihuahua and these emus tried to stomp it to death! Very traumatising! That binch survived but emus are definately an animal to be wary of

stevie

Eliza! did you listen to the you’re wrong about ep of the donner party!!! seewww good

Emily Bruns

Northern California binchie coming to share that we did a two month English lesson at my elementary school where we read a book on the Donner party in the FOURTH GRADE. I was traumatized and have been hyperfixated since

Chelsea Daniel

yassss Western Australia mention 🤭🤭🤭🤭🤭🤭 emus are chill in wa there are campsites and cabins up north where they just chill and steal food

Kirsten

I work in insurance and never understood why we specifically have policy language EXCLUDING EMUS until now thank you so much girlies xoxo

Lily Ana Verna

I have POTS which is one of the things people often get from long covid where they can't get out of bed like you said (though I had it before covid) and it's MISERABLE! I've barely left bed in 6 months and everything in my life has been put on pause Not to scare anyone but chronic illnesses are really not for the weak! So I feel you so much to anyone else who has something like that

Boots60

Girls I love you but for all Australian ears sake, it’s pronounced ‘em-you’ 😭

Chelsea Daniel
>>135406897

But also my dad was so oddly terrified of them ?? he was kind of a bogan and grew up in south west wa so idk maybe it’s their scars. but I always chilled with them when camping so idk

Genevieve Heggarty
>>135399442

A lot of the medium sized birds like magpies and kookaburras are generally loved but there are instances of human/animal conflict like swooping or stealing food. I’d say the smaller ones like the superb fairy-wren are well loved because there is less conflict with people

Juliet

I saw oj Simpson at Whole Foods one time lol

Sierrah Brown

A while back my friend asked what the biggest animal I could beat in a fight was and I said maybe an emu. Now I'm not so sure

gabby lewis

eliza saying gout instead of gaunt SENT MEEE bc when yall were talking about gout ages ago eliza said "isnt it gaunt" or smth

Taylor Rayfield

An Emu once sneezed on me and I still haven't recovered

Tilly VW
>>135399442

Maybe a Rosella (rainbow birdie) but there is generally more whinging about birds than celebrating

Emily

Emu’s are terrifying to ME. But you can hand feed them at like every zoo. I fear them the way I fear geese and roosters. Snakes will try avoid you and spiders you can avoid by not sticking your hand places you can’t see. But those birds will try to FIGHT u

Skyler Murphy

been wanting lasik, fearing now!!!

Francesca Schneider
>>135361342

the 1-5% that arent “successfull” dont mean you will get this condition. it means your correction might not be 100%, and you can have another procedure later to correct it. The risks are extremely low. ive never heard of this before and i had lasik !

Mary Hoffman

Can y’all do an episode on Aboriginal history?!?? I feel like it’s super unknown (especially in America) and super super important!! The movie rabbit proof fence is an example of the rampant racism and it was seriously so recently

Sumaiya Fazal

every day i thank God im not australian bc chickens r scary enough as it is

Ally Vanny

James Reed of the Donner Party and Abraham Lincoln were BESTIES. Reed tried to convince Abe to join the party but his wife said no

Clementine
>>135411251

I’m not trying to be rude but like—don’t we americans just…have a different accent than you guys? like you wouldn’t tell an american that we pronounce the word “no” incorrectly would you?

Tori D

parosmia (everything smells like garbage thanks to covid) survivor here! yeah it was actual living hell

Abbey W
>>135442533

also not trying to be argumentative or snarky i’m just actually interested in languages and accents as a whole lol

Annip
>>135407342

POTS survivor here. i had it for 6 years - high school and college. And i thankfully grew out of it with the help of healing my trauma (the body really does keep the score) sending love. it gets better i promise 🫶🏻

Nadine C
>>135407342

POTSie here too! I’ve had it since middle school but it’s gotten better with age (26 now). 10/10 would not recommend 😭 sending hugs (and salt) 🥰

alisa

if you want a phenomenal book about the Donner Party you should read The Indifferent Stars Above!

Keri Johnson

waittttt I would LOVE an ep on the chilean plane crush….

Isabel Alves de Lima
>>135447748

This! I was deeply disturbed after reading that book but it was so comprehensive and really put you in the setting

abby lee

would love for you guys to do an episode on tudor history! mainly king henry viii & his six wives and then his daughter queen elizabeth I !!! the tudors are so interesting i’ve been obsessed with their history since january

abby lee
>>135464868

there’s so many more interesting people and figures from that time period but those two are the big ones (katherine parr & anne of cleaves had super interesting lives before & after their marriages to king henry)

Lizzy Sommer

I am a lasik truther, you can pry my glasses from my cold dead hands

Katie Currie

sooo excited to re-visit the You’re Wrong About empisode on the donner party after this

☆Sara☆

Real ones watched the Watcher Puppet History episodes for these

Erin Reinhart

Have you guys seen Christian walker’s videos/ig posts about OJ and the similarities to his dad - Christian has basically said he feels for Nicole brown and her kids because he so easily could’ve been that - it’s pretty chilling and he’s really one of the only people I’ve seen talk about her and bring it back to a place of sorrow for the lives lost because of OJ

Emma Bucher

The You’re Wrong About episode on the Donner Party is one of my favorite podcast eps of all time

rhiannon donnelly

was already scared of lasik because of final destination 5 but this news is worse … praying for the glasses wearers of the world

mel

Love the comeback of silly history!!! Hope we get more of these in the future❤️

Poppy
>>135411251

Yes you have different accents, but because emu is a naming word there is still a correct way to pronounce it. Like if you pronounced hummingbird a hoomingbaird as an English speaker you’d be pronouncing it wrong.

Poppy
>>135399442

Probably lorikeets or parakeets! Gorgeous gorgeous rainbow parrots very sweet and pretty

baby.yogurt

this has made me so nervous for my dad who spontaneously got lasik last year without telling me until after the fact.......very very nervous.........

Dynasti deGouville

Is the bass muted on the intro? Or am I losing my hearing?

alex

as a park ranger girlie, my favorite genre is humans getting bodied by nature. would recommend checking out the klondike gold rush. greedy men running up hills, women making bank, people getting clowned (soapy smith), animatronic manikins (look up “lady lou manikin” to see a haggard queen): it has it all. and it happened in 1898, which is too recent for my liking lmao.

Syd

hi queens! i work at the ad agency that does the lady gaga nurtec ads. they aren’t my client so i don’t have any specifics but can confirm that she def makes bank and apparently her manager sucks to work with 🤪 ILY

Tess Knoll

eliza i was thinking about 30-50 feral hogs right before you said it 😭

cicely Hodel
>>135399442

Dude I don’t fuck with kookaburras any more, my friend was eating a chicken drumstick and as she was biting into it the bird came and swooped right out of her hand and mouth- now terrified of them

Lily Ana Verna
>>135407342

@ Annip I'm so sorry to hear that but I'm glad you were able to recover!! The body reallly keeps the score I've been trying to work through that

Lily Ana Verna
>>135407342

@ Nadine sending you hugs and salt too!! I'm glad to hear it's gotten better over the years but it can be such a long road... thank you both for the kind words ! ♥️🫶🏻 it's always nice to hear from fellow POTSies though obviously I wish none of us went through this!

Morgan Stephens

ATTN: ELIZA. I work at an optometrist and seeing as how you’re a migraine girly. Look up avulux light filtering lenses. if your migraines are triggered by light sensitivity, you can get glasses that basically prevent them from happening by filtering out every single harsh light besides soothing green light

Morgan Stephens

Lasik doesn’t even last forever, your vision can still get worse over time, it’s so pointless

Jessie Walters

look up cassowaries they’re scarier than emus 😭

Vicky Richards

I’m an Australian just from standing in front of them there’s something so unsettling about looking at their eyes ,,, spooky

izi

i am an aussie binchie with a bird phobia: clownery

stonefruit
>>135399442

I would say rainbow lorikeets, crimson rosellas, galahs and cockatoos are all very loved Aussie birds

stonefruit
>>135411251

Americans tell us that we pronounce the word no wrong all the time hence the naurr jokes haha

Sarah

Going between these two stories was emotional whiplash but despite that I loved this ep. Also I’m glad to hear people point out the risks of lasik because no offense to anyone who has gotten it but I don’t understand how anyone could risk their EYES, wearing glasses isn’t even that bad. I wear glasses and people have asked me if I’d ever get it and it has always been an extreme hard no. I’m not even someone that typically has health related anxiety or paranoia but those are my EYESSSSS

izzy

Drew Phillips of emergency intercom would love this ep

Erin

How y'all never hear of laser eye surgery before? It's not any riskier than any other surgery. And wearing glasses is extremely annoying, they break, get lost, smudged, you're handicapped without them if very short sighted. It's not about the aesthetic, I liked the look of my glasses

Erin
>>135517512

I've had it for 10 years now and my vision is still really good like I ace eye tests. It's not pointless at all

Jill Antonowicz

y’all have to listen to the last podcast on the left episode about the donner party! they brought a belgian man named hardcoop and left his ass to die not once but twice. the details of that disaster are INSANE lmao

jules!

australian army men = stormtroopers

Alex Nathan

Nurtec is magic but it’s $125 per pill out of pocket 😊

Alex Nathan

I missed Eliza’s NYC concert because my insurance hadn’t approved my Nurtec and my parents didn’t want to pay the $125

elizagolightly

Not me having an emu tattoo bc I LOVE them I’m cackling at Julia’s story!!!

Rachel

The Dyatlov Pass incident is one that will never sit right with me. The movie based on it “Devil’s Pass” is really good but the whole thing is just SHONKING!

avery

someone teach eliza that plymouth pronounced "pli muth" up north. julia save us northeastenerd

Sam Haimowitz
>>135604492

omg if I’m not mistaken I think Josh Gates went there on an episode of Expedition Unknown and it was incredible!!!!!!!!!!!! that whole story is WILD

Sam Haimowitz

omg my birthday is May 27th…. chilling. rip Sarah Keyes 😔

Veronica
>>135540356

Yeah Julia makes it sound like a BBL but it’s a common and established procedure

Kaitlin

I’m from near where the party originated 🤠

Sam Haimowitz

“great news everyone!!” LMAOO Eliza I caught that Futurama reference 🤓

Janet

Fantastic summary of the Donner Party disaster! A+ 😀

Abbey Pitman

i actually can’t with the way you guys pronounce emu it’s fucking hilarious - it’s not ee-moo it’s eem-you

lola bolado

omg speaking of the clock girl i'm getting a tattoo of her in june :P

isbly

ok my uncle got lasik years ago but recently told me it means you can NEVER rub your eyes again. and i just don’t think i could give that up

Isabel Slaymaker

Got lasik yesterday and was in pain panicking that I made a huge mistake… had saved the ep for my recovery to calm me down - NOPE!

Aarya Ghonasgi

My roommates neighbor had an emu on a farm, and the emu escaped one time and my roommate sibling got the emu. They lasso the emu and put the emu in their trailer like it like an RV type situation to return to the neighbors and then, for some reason the police had to get involved, and a police officer strangled the emu in the trailer. There were feathers everywhere. Also, I’m using voice text to do that so if it sounds weird, that’s why.

Bee

Binchies - what episode would you recommend to someone if introducing them to Binchtopia for the first time?

alicia kapeecia

as a west Australian i can confirm that this is all canon

Kate Gulewich

can eliza please do an episode on the pullout method!!!

Heather McCaskie

As an Australian I can confirm we don’t like Emus (pronounced eem-you). I don’t think it’s from the Emu War, cos I didn’t know what that was for a long time, but because they’re scary and aggressive and have no redeeming qualities. Like kangaroos can be aggressive but they’re also cute and majestic. Emus are truly the worst.

stonefruit

Americans make fun of us for how we pronounce no but then pronounce emu like this 😭😭😭😭 i still love you though binchies

Shari

Love this Aussie history rep, any other born & bred Australians only VERY recently find out about the emu war???? Everyone I’ve asked also wasn’t aware… but seems like a big deal internationally??

Stina Olsson

I listened to this and then proceeded to have several nightmares about being stalked and attacked by an emu

rachel

not sure if someone said this already but one of my all time favorite history facts is that 16th US president abraham lincoln was bffs with james reed and wanted to go on their trek to hollywood but queen mary todd was like the fuck you’re not! so he stayed behind and eventually became president and ended slavery🫶🏻

Jenna

Shopping for emu war merch on Etsy rn

Avalon Barr

A news anchor from my hometown unalived herself bc of that eye surgery :( it was so sad she was pregnant and had a big family

Jo

Aussies don’t like emus bc they’re ugly and aggressive but I don’t think we’re really *scared* of them (at least not in the south east where I am). We’re scared shitless of cassowaries though, that’s an actual living dinosaur and unlike emus they actually HAVE killed people before

Rachel Diazena

the you’re wrong about OJ series oh my GOOOOOD it’s incredible

Monica Parks

I got LASIK in Dec of 2021 and had I known about how debilitating the dry eye can be for some people…yeah no would probably not have done it.

adara

is julia describing an emu or bella hadid????

Emma Lucy

guys i need you to know it’s e-mew not e-moo (australian binchie)

Evelyne

I mean at some point, just go hike. 150 miles left and they were there for days and months.

Hayley
>>135517512

This isn’t accurate information. It’s for distance vision. I imagine what you’re confusing is how your vision for up close I.e. reading will decrease around the age of 42. Unrelated to the procedure

Hayley
>>135743976

Seeing this late- but their info in this episode is incorrect. I’m sure you’re fine and you should be happy with your decision! Just use artificial tears :)

Kaylee Pitman

If folie à deux isn't real please what the hell happened with Sabina and Ursula Eriksson 😭😭 it haunts me I don't understand

Sallie
>>135356981

literally had to come back and get mad at this again after dropping $600 at the optometrist….

Jennnnnnnnnn

“Lansford Hastings, you rotten binch!” 😂😂

Hannah Turner

further proof that the binchies love puppet history!

Isla

WEST AUSTRALIA MENTIONED RAAAHHHHHHHH🦘🐨🐊🫡🫡🫡

annabelle chapman

I researched the emu wars for my middle school newspaper so this is truly a full circle moment for me

Maddy short

PBS representation!! Highly recommend their streaming service!

Kate H

I went to a safari rescue drive through thing once when I was like 10 and an emu stuck its head in my window and pecked me, so I understand the Australian’s hatred of them

Audrey Long

Okay but rabbits are also invasive species in Australia!! The British brought them over to hunt and then immediately regretted it because they overran EVERYTHING!! Then scientists tried to control them by releasing a rabbit specific virus? Idk

Marthe

I ♥️ Binchtopia !!!!

Bree Dempsey

As an Australia, I would rather take my chances with a group of men and a stick rather than 1 emu and a machine gun