Home
Creators
Search Recent Missing Random
Posts
Search DMs Popular Hash Lookup Tags Random
Importer
Import FAQ
Register Favorites Keys Review DMs Logout
Community
Telegram ThePornDude
Home Creators Posts Import Register Favorites Logout

Eerie Episode: We Are The Witches You Couldn't Cancel (Patreon)

Published:
2023-10-31 02:34:45
Imported:
2026-06
Tags:
haven't archived this post yet. have a subscription? use the importer!

Downloads

  • ep 127 final.mp3

Missing 1 file, as this post has not yet been imported.

Content

The girlies are back with another Eerie Episode™, this time covering all things WITCHES! They go back into the annuls to unpack the history of European witchery, the Salem Witch trials, voodoo, the current-day Wicca practitioners, and the Etsy spell sellers of today. They discuss “witch” as a socially imposed category and the evolution of witchy practices throughout history. Digressions include some Russian witch tea from a listener and Khloe Kardashian’s unfortunate lot in this life as a Victim Soul.

Binchtopia is created, produced, and hosted by Julia Hava and Eliza McLamb. Research for this episode was contributed by Ben Rosenfeld and Charlie Squire.

Sources:

The Devil in the Shape of a Woman

A Brief History of the Salem Witch Trials

Damned Women: Sinners and Witches in Puritan New England

Why Do Witches Ride Brooms? (NSFW)

Caliban and the Witch: Women, the Body and Primitive Accumulation 

Drawing Down the Moon : Witches, Druids, Goddess-Worshippers, and Other Pagans in America Today

Daring to Be Bad: Radical Feminism in America 

Cultural Appropriation in Contemporary Neopaganism and Witchcraft

Perceptions of New Orleans Voodoo: Sin, Fraud, Entertainment, and Religion

New Age and Neopagan Religions in America 

Fantasies of Gender and the Witch in Feminist Theory and Literature

Witchcraft for Sale! Commodity vs. Community in the Neopagan Movement

Comments

Claudia Mrozik

Really pumping out the eps lately we love to see it 👏🏼

Sophie

A MONDAY TREAT FOR MY RAT BRAIN

Ailis Reavey

love the khloe commentary per usual

Isabel Alves de Lima

I’m currently reading The Physick Book of Deliverance Dane and it’s right on theme with this ep, very Salem witch trials

kiara

i’m so shocked and disappointed in you both for coming out with this ep, meanwhile not acknowledging the 3+ genocides happening on this post or on the binchtopia podcast instagram. i really love this podcast, and when i saw the horrific things going on in the world rn, i assumed you guys would have been the first to actively say something of substance and/or attempt to educate people on the subject. i know the israeli/palestinian conflict runs deep and would take time to cover (understandable), but now isn’t the time to drop an ep as if nothing is going on

Kay

I've been watching The Kardashians and I like Khloe!! I think she's my fav out of the 3.

via
>>121040334

they already talked about it at the beginning of a recent episode and said they wouldn’t cover it in depth because it would be a lot to cover in a meaningful way in an episode. but eliza has been posting about it on her own instagram as well

kiara
>>121040334

i’m glad to hear that they talked about it a bit but even if they don’t want to get into depth, it should be handled with more care than this. i’ve looked on eliza’s instagram but she hasn’t actually posted anything about it- i would’ve expected them to do more than post on their stories about a topic this serious because it feels like it’s being ignored. that’s all :/

Sarah Gottesman

Representation for Increase Miller, who my elementary school was named for

Nikita

NAIL SOLUTION INCOMING get gel manicures BUT take it off yourself with a gel remover like this: https://www.amazon.com.au/Polish-Remover-Minutes-Soaking-Wrapping/dp/B0C284WFBV/ref=asc_df_B0C284WFBV/?tag=googleshopmob-22&linkCode=df0&hvadid=650083845023&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=8736633727886608266&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9069021&hvtargid=pla-2391206013312&psc=1 I really hope that shit hyperlinks soz. My nails were so weak from having those file drill bits hack at them once a month and taking it off myself instead has totally fixed it. Just file off the top coat, apply two coats of the gel remover and then gently scrape off with a cuticle tool. I've been doing this for like two years and never have bare nails. You are sooooo welcome 💅

Nikita
>>121043336

This sounds like spon con lol I just want yall to have stwong pretty nails

kiara
>>121040334

that’s enough for you? considering the platform they have and the fact they make full eps on serious and important events/ideology, solely one of them posting on their instagram story doesn’t seem like any effort to me

Eliza Bell

I am also a descendent of Susana North Martin!

Luteal Swan

I met some girlies on the Reddit group and we just watched your live show together💜 🌈 ☀️ 💭 👩‍👧

Allie Meger

middle ages girls make do!

Isø
>>121040334

Sorry, we know this is a horrific time in history but I strongly disagree that this is their responsibility. They were already pressured into addressing it at the beginning of a recent ep, and then were called out for not saying the exact right thing because it’s so raw and intense for everyone right now, even though most were able to interpret what they meant in good faith. Nobody should be looking to Binchtopia for this, it would not be helpful in any meaningful way other than to appear good to you. They would not say anything new or informative, no offence, it would just be rehashing their own understanding which would mirror what everyone else like them has already said. If you’re a regular listener, you should already know they’re good people with their hearts in the right place. I listen to this podcast for lighthearted distraction from the horrors, there are so many well informed sources you should already have to fulfil your needs to be up to date on war and genocide. This is not Binchtopia’s responsibility in any way, I would rather they stick with their strengths (lighthearted distraction from the horrors) and not feel pressured into involving themselves in every horrific thing happening in the world when there are millions of better informed people out there.

Isø

This episode healed my witchy soul tysm girlies

Lauren Powers

reincarnated as a TREE FROOOOG lmfao 🐸 this really is a great goal to end human suffering

hal m

Alie Ward on Ologies just put out a 2 part episode about witches!! Interviewing a practicing witch!! It was SUPER interesting and cool to hear directly from someone who practices it, I highly recommend.

IsabellaO

so basically if ur a woman ur also a witch is what im understanding

snailgirl

my dad ALSO has a ring light and he uses it as god intended (attached to his laptop to look gorg on zoom calls for work)

Riley Wells

so glad you mentioned the tiktok witches who are basically yassified scammers. ruralisolationshortie is one of them and she tried to scam me into sending her £60 for an online tarot reading

Binchtopia
>>121072498

Doing my duty as a ruralisolationshortie stan to let you know she has a ton of imitator scam accounts out there. She’s never sold tarot readings to my knowledge & is always posting about the scam accounts who try to use her image/similar handle to get money out of people. Sorry that happened to you though that’s awful!

roxy

i’ve found that dip nails don’t make my nails weaker

Shaelan Donovan

great episode girls and SO excited that you mentioned the book - honestly this whole episode could've been close reading of Caliban and the Witch. if you're interested in the intersections of history, capitalism, women, reproductive rights etc etc I cannot recommend it enough

✨
>>121043336

I am incredibly grateful for this information. Do you ever take nail polish breaks? I've been told I should do that but I kinda don't feel like that's real. Like why do my nails need to breath?

chessie

William Phipps my good ol great (etc etc) grandpa. my family says that his wife was accused and tried as well.

Carolime

Not Eliza lumping MY gal Emily Henry in with Colleen Hoover - that’s SLANDER!

Massiel Tolentino

as a a university student in salem,ma i fucking wish all the tourists would visit european sites of witch trials cause istg we get more tourists every year and its insufferable

Alice Zhang

yes to gel extensions - i have the weakest nails everrrr and if you take off gelx the right way (file off, soak in acetone, etc) your nails will grow out as they should and won’t be weakened. plus if you go to a good place - have to plug oh my nails in nyc - they can last up to one month!! so they’re super worth the money!!

Caroline ONeil

is midwifery pronounced the way eliza said it im now realizing i don’t think i’ve ever heard it out loud and im my head it was different

Madeline Goodwin

Can we discuss when Kris said scott has like a cute sister brother crush on Khloe and Khloe shut her down

Chance Al-Hajji

I’m glad the tragic suffering soul of Khloe Kardashian was discussed bc truly…. She has suffered enough. I had to stop watching the show with my roomate bc I would get too sad about the tragic figures and panopticon of it all

Julia

the only booktok influencer i trust is aptly named @bookbinch, his recs and reviews are pretty great. also @schizophrenicreads for non fiction !!

Sally Paik

I will not allow Emily Henry slander 😭

Jaelyn

Salem mass in 2019 💫

Veronica L

I love that you mentioned ergot! I learned about it in a plant pathology class and found it so interesting

Maya

Okay Emily Henry is NOT the same as Coleen Hoover y’all😭 she’s genuinely so talented

Izzy Conlon

There is a hilarious show called The Witchfinder by the Gibbons brothers I’m not sure if it’s available in the US but I would highly recommend!! Love it if u guys did a reaction to it in a future bonus episode or something<3 It’s only 1 season sadly but it’s about the fear of witchcraft in 1647.

Josie

So glad u guys mentioned Tituba Indian, an enslaved West Indian woman brought to Salem and one of the first accused in the Salem Witch Trials. Archival records note her as “probably practicing HooDoo” and totally flatten her life. The epistemic violence done unto her is explored in I, Tituba: Black Witch of Salem by Maryse Condé, which is an incredible read. Black women were accused for different reasons than white women— their very skin color was purported to be Satanic and any non-Christian spiritual practices they did were condemned. The connection between white supremacy and witch hunts is definitely worth learning about.

Susie McKeon

Omg the magic in Manhattan books!!! LOVED those in middle school omg

Julia Rowe

I neeeeed youse to know that I was just walking home from a halloween night out alone dressed as Sue Sylvester playing this shit out loud at 2:30am to create an environment sooo toxic (to men) but safe to me so happy halloween from Newcastle England and thank you for your service!!!! That's how Sue Cs it. Now i'm going to make a cup of tea to counteract the coke

Ella Speer

I just listened to a great 5-part series from the Otherworld podcast and *spoiler* it ends with an indigenous Canadian man blessing a house to rid a spirit. The woman he gave his services to tried multiple times to repay him before he stopped replying to any communication. The host got a hold of him a while later- and he wrote a note saying that he would not be on the podcast nor accept any payment or publicity for his service, because his gift was from the spirits and it could be taken away if he profits in any way from it. I thought this was an interesting tidbit re:Etsy/tiktok witches who are profiting off a practice, culture, ritual that may not belong to them!

Ella Speer

Also slay I too loooooved the Bras and Broomstick series as a tween

Luteal Swan

The discussion of self proclaimed witches brought me back to this memory I BLOCKED out. On Halloween in 2019 this straight white man self proclaimed “witch” (I’m sorry) invited me to a seance at his house and I thought it was a kiki and it was NOT at all. It was just him and me alone in his house. he was definitely very mentally unstable and had a hoarding issue and his cats peed everywhere. He had all these notes on the wall and one of them said “find pixie girl and make her your slave” and i didn’t leave because I didn’t wanna be rude :/ so stupid lol he didn’t try anything predatory with me that night and we carried on with the ritual/ seance and left gifts in the woods for the goddess Hecate. I honestly thought that part was cool… Then after that to make a long story short he started stalking me at work and attempted to put a love spell on me by giving me notes with melted candle wax on them that said “I can’t stop thinking about you” 🤢 I told him to fuck off and blocked his number.

Chloe Allen

im literally from switzerland and i love it there but i can confirm that they do hate women (we cldnt vote until 1970) so it is not surprising that some of the european witch trials began there

Katie Currie

Omg Julia I also wrote an essay in college on the devil in the shape of a woman!! The property inheritance aspect of the accusations blew my mind and I remember saying that it’s weird we still refer to the events in academic contexts as witch trials and not literal terrorism against women over land and my prof was like “very interesting…” LMAO

abby reddy

imagining how confusing it would be for a victorian child to hear “i hope khloe kardashian gets reincarnated as a tree frog”

Campbell Coker

wait pls I am also related to susannah martin SOMEONE FIND ME

alex

thom yorke of radiohead worked the twilight soundtrack!!!!

Katie Currie
>>121040334

Little distraction from what horrors? Boycotting Starbucks and McDonald’s? We aren’t experiencing any horrors besides guilt. The only thing we can do as americans is talk about what’s happening to Palestinians, since it’s our country funding it, and try to change public opinion. When you have a platform that absolutely is a responsibility. And the little pre-episode message is not enough, especially when they have full episodes on other important events like this.

baby yaga

underrated witchy book rec: the mercies by kiran millwood hargrave. based on a true event ! well-researched historical fiction ! wlw elements ! less mainstream setting (norway) !

Jaelyn Wratchford

“urban outfitters isn’t supposed to be profiting off your witchcraft” slay quote snaps snaps

Nora

this is an instant classic episode tbh

holly

ok the outro music gave me a heart attack

Maddy short

The solution to the nail issue is to grow out your natural nails but get an acrylic overlay once a month

Roni

I know Halloween has passed, but if you’re still in the mood for something along this topic (or just a fictional pallet cleanser fiction after suffering through “it ends with us”) you guys should read “Slewfoot” by Bromm! It’s about a woman accused of fraternizing with the devil during *the olden times lol but I really think you’ll enjoy it (esp Eliza)

Esme

The witchy giggle during the intro took me out 😭

Kenzie

Hearing Eliza talk about the Bras and Broomstick book made my inner child scream

Isø
>>121040334

I am sorry for writing an essay, should not have snapped! My point is this is all horrible, people still need distraction from it once in a while if they’re able to, or we’ll all be more unwell. Everyone cares about this, having a platform doesn’t mean you have to the spread the word on something everyone is already very aware of.

Lucie

Laughing OUT LOUD at the name Increase

Olivia

This is giving old ep vibes in the best way

Isø
>>121040334

I know I deleted my initial gut reaction rant, but I’m still baffled by the delusional America-centrism of this response. I’m not American so never cared about Starbucks or McDonald’s in the first place, it’s weird to assume that’s relevant to the point I was making? As if existing in a world with war and genocide isn’t harmful to everyone living in it? You admit you feel guilt yet don’t see your vapid demands for everyone with a platform to ‘speak on it’ as a shallow way to remedy this? Why do Americans think they as individuals are so powerful and important in global events? It’s embarrassing. Do you really think any binchtopia listener isn’t already aware of everything happening right now? It wouldn’t ‘change public opinion’ to echo everyone’s thoughts back to them. I love these girls but they are not that influential, nor is any other self serving American influencer. I stand by my point that it wouldn’t be useful to have binchtopia’s take on a horrifying global situation that everyone is already abreast of. I also think the other full episodes on events like this were not necessary, I didn’t learn anything new and nor should you have. It is not Binchtopia’s responsibility to educate you, this is entertainment.

kiara
>>121040334

that’s not the point of my comment…. of course everyone is aware and i’m not looking solely to them for educational purposes. if they have a platform and they often make informative episodes/deep dive into historical events, then i believe they are capable of talking about this. you can think what you want atp, i knew people wouldn’t agree since this comment is quite literally on their paid patreon page

Kate Tsourmas

This episode is y’all at your BEST like yessss history and feminism and anticapitalism and silliness! Perfect showing, no notes

Julia R

Love the ep 🐈‍⬛🐈‍⬛ for anyone looking for witch-related book rec, I highly recommend I Tituba, Black Witch of Salem by maryse condé. It’s a great historical fiction retelling of the witch trials from Tituba’s perspective! The novel is so so beautifully written and does an amazing job situating Tituba’s story within the broader context of settler colonialism in Massachusetts and Barbados, where she was born

abby elsethagen

hey binchies! I loved loved loved this episode but unfortunately I do think there’s a lot of historical inaccuracy here. I would really encourage y’all to watch kaz rowe’s recent video where she debunks the broomstick myth that was talked about. I love y’all so much but I think some more research should have been done here. https://youtu.be/SjXETCPMuHo?si=m0OJhIX6sBjKJYuh

kiara
>>121040334

i ultimately think it’s morally unacceptable to have a platform and not speak on this. attempting to educate people where they can and sharing boycotting info for americans is what i think all influencers here should be doing. i really do like this podcast and im just disappointed to see them not speak on this more, especially because i expected it from them.

Isø
>>121040334

I just don’t think people should be so disappointed by this, calling them morally unacceptable for not scrambling to give their take on this horrifying global situation. To me, that would be inappropriate. You already know about what’s happening and what to boycott from other sources, everyone does. It would not make any meaningful difference at this point for them to parrot what everyone already knows, just because you expect it from them. I think demanding everyone with a platform to speak is how a lot of misinformation is spread, having followers shouldn’t give you authority to ‘educate’ people. A lot of people with ‘platforms’ should shut up and leave it to people who know what they’re talking about. I know you want to feel good and useful, but shaming comedy podcasters into doing an episode on active genocide is not the way.

marisa
>>121043336

My mom used to paint her nails all the time without stopping and actually developed an allergy to nail polish! So when I was growing up she’d always make me take breaks. Not to scare anyone, all body tolerances are different :) I think nail beds can still absorb the polish which I’m guessing is just chemical so I’d assume that’s why.

Emily Rush

I have a special interest in online witchcraft community & honestly your take on modern witches was very “bitches hate nuance”. Definitely there’s a lot of spiritual materialism and cultural appropriation that happens but I find that there are very many people with practices that are deeply conscientious about that. Also I find the spaces to be very age-varied. It makes me kinda sad to hear y’all generalize so much about a community without taking the time to look deeper into them.

Leyla Ghaemi

Eliza post the nails challenge

jessie

gagged because i listened to the vampire episode consecutively before this one and you literally asked for witchy mailbox moments 😭

Summer

Please please PLEASE read weyward! It's about 3diff women who you find out are the others ancestors. It's like 1619, 1920 and 2016 or something like that. They all revolve slightly around this cabin that you find is their family cabin. Three diff storylines of these women thru their life. One is 1619 accused of being a witch for killing a man. One is 1920 and she is just an unruly kid. One is 2016 escaping an abusive relationship. And they all have a weird magical connection with nature. They all connect and idk ugh I just finished it.

Kat

I still can’t believe you two haven’t said more about the genocide happening to Palestinians. Love you both but it is beyond disappointing. A literal genocide is happening to an entire population, in part funded by our tax dollars and fully endorsed by our government, and this is the time you choose to be hold back. We all have a moral responsibility to speak up and you both have large platforms. You could be educating people on the history of Israel’s illegal occupation, displacement, and oppression of Palestinians. You could be sharing information and combating racist propaganda. You could be fighting back against the imbecilic and entirely false idea that criticizing a far-right, settler colonial, genocidal government and its actions is somehow anti-Semitic. You could be talking about how Zionism is antithetical to the teachings of Judaism. Literally anything. Now is not the time to fear retaliation or loss of followers or friends. Really hope you will start speaking up and be on the right side of history.

Nicola

on the nails - BIAB is what you want !!

Katie Currie
>>121040334

It’s not “scrambling to give a take” when it’s been over a month of ongoing bombings. And it is simply morally unacceptable to not speak out. You can criticize some random 14yo tiktoker for not having the authority to educate people just because of their following, but Julia is getting a PhD and is beyond qualified to understand what is going on right now. Also no one is asking them to solve the issue? If asking them to at the bare minimum condemn Israel makes me vapid so be it :)

Katie Currie
>>121040334

& it’s insane to say we should just “leave it to the people who know what they’re talking about” to solve this. Politicians do not have access to some intelligence that we don’t. Making people feel like this issue is beyond their comprehension is a tactic that has always been used to make people fear speaking up. The US is funding this and veto-ing all voting from other countries to stop it. Americans deeply understand the consequences of just letting the people in charge handle everything and you should too. It’s a democrat office doing this now! It’s unfortunate and dystopian that people have to look at influencers or celebrities to push for change but it’s a symptom of this hellscape not the cause.

kiara
>>121040334

UOURE EATING KATIEEE like idg why people don’t understand this

kiara
>>121040334

you’re being dense on purpose. firstly, yes these girls are funny, but they talk about serious topics ALL THE TIME. they are not solely comedians. they do deep dives into specific topics constantly, it wouldn’t be difficult or out of their skill range for them to research. secondly, no, not everyone knows what to be boycotting. assuming everyone already knows what they should be doing to help is dismissive. they have the potential to educate others and spread ACTUAL helpful information and resources, don’t get why you’re so against that. atp you’ve stated your opinion so many times that this convo is redundant, i will never agree with you.

matheson

if you’re interested in learning your family history this sounds CRAZY but the mormon church owns most of ancestry and has like the 2nd largest genealogical database in the world. if you go to ur local mormon temple there are volunteer genealogists who can compile your family history and will not proselytize 🫡 signed an ex mormon

Grape Surgeon

No mention of AHS coven… I’m shocked! Also great book on repackaging spirituality for mass consumption and productivity: McMindfulness

Lucy Johanneman
>>121128063

omg hi!! this was so crazy bc right after i commented this i watched your vlog where you shouted them out lol. i loved this video though and you!! 🥰🫶🏻

Jane Mather-Glass

i’m saurrr late to this episode but just had to relay that i am unfortunately a descendent of nonbinary icon cotton mather

Danielle

**** nitpicking but I think using the word witches in reference to the women murdered is not ok!! They’re women not witches! My uncle was telling me about witch trials in Colombia and was like ‘the witches were buried..etc’ and I kept correcting the *WOMEN!!

Danielle

Please leave me, a tarot girl, out of this lol I don’t think I’m a witch!

The Immaculate Witch Kaitlin Reckord

So.... Has anyone brought up the 2014 show Salem...? It was deliciously devilish, sexy, nuanced (as a show in that era can be) and starred some great TV legend/heartthrobs! Lucy Lawless and Shane West!

The Immaculate Witch Kaitlin Reckord

Wicca and witchcraft are two very different things. Wiccans are witches, but not all witches are Wiccans. Wicca was created by Gerald Gardner in the 60s I believe. And it's totally rife with appropriation. A great book by Pam Grossman called Waking the Witch that explores the cultural and historical idea of the witch and witchcraft. She also had a GREAT podcast called the Witch Wave.

The Immaculate Witch Kaitlin Reckord

It's also not inherently wrong to purchase a spell. Because magick is work and does deserve compensation if that is how you engage with your practice. I've definitely done spells and readings for trade before and will continue to do so in the future!