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Please I’ve Been Dying to Talk About This (Patreon)

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The girlies go soapbox mode to discuss two women in history that they can’t stop thinking about: their special interest girlbosses. Julia tells the fascinating story of Annie Oakley, the most snatched sharpshooter of all time, and Eliza gets deep into the lore of Connie Converse, the mysterious (gay?) 50’s songwriter who pioneered the genre before disappearing without a trace. Plus, more Kardashian discourse, an angel update, and homophobia-themed mailbox moments.

Binchtopia is created, produced, and hosted by Julia Hava and Eliza McLamb. This episode was edited by Allison Hagan.

SOURCES

The true story of Annie Oakley, legendary sharpshooter

Annie Oakley | National Women's History Museum.

What the True Story of Buffalo Bill Reveals About the Myth of the Wild West

Annie Oakley: In A Man’s World 

Annie Oakley: The Person

To Anyone Who Ever Asks: The Life, Music, and Mystery of Connie Converse by Howard Fishman

The Art of Disappearance by Hanif Abdurraqib

Comments

Luca Jacoe

It’s my bday today and this is all I ever wanted thank u girls

Kat

Dying to talk about this but not the genocide in Palestine being funded by our tax dollars. Please please please use your platforms to speak up.

sis and bub

omg when i was younger i was in this program with my dad and we got to come up with names for ourselves and i called myself little miss sure shot because i was OBSESSED with annie oakley i’m so excited for this ep

Viviana

Can't wait to listen to Binchtopia today. Literally shaking. That's called dedication.

Tay

RIGHT as I have a break at work and sit down for lunch I get the notification for y’all’s new ep🥺 thank you for ur blessings. LOVE YALL -a little tx binchie

Julia

connie converse has been dominating my headspace after reading biography of X omg

Kat
>>121668178

They had an extremely brief, milk-toast non-statement in the beginning of one episode. That’s less than the bare minimum they could be doing.

M

Omg I read after when I was 14 and then again when it was published….it’s sucks so bad but if your episode is anything like the Colleen Hoover one then it will eat!

Narcisa

Julia we need a tintype update

Ellen

please I get so scared whenever you insert the word ellen into a sentence 😅😳

Jilly Felton

if you do a follow up on honey i monetized the kids please read the book momfluenced!! by sara petersen

Rain
>>121668178

I had the same thought. "Posting a selfie on instagram is devastating and anxiety inducing" ... girls there's a genocide happening

zoë hessian

wish y’all would do more to advocate for the people of palestine- i know eliza has been posting but wheres the same effort that y’all gave ukraine?? the people of palestine are begging for their voices to amplified and y’all have a huge platform, just something i (and many other binchies) would love to see 💞💞💞

Lulu Wilson

Omg on cloud 100 they read my mailbox moment 🥹

izzy

crying real tears at sitting bull symbolically adopting annie oakley like !!!!!!

izzy
>>121668243

I—ian Princesses ??? bc same lollll like wtf was that! had a lot of fun with my dad and sister and stuff but like damn that was fucked up

sis and bub
>>121668243

YES!! our chapter(??) changed its name to adventure princesses halfway through my time in it but some of the “traditions” stuck

Sophia Csiacsek

the FBI calls him buffalo bill because he likes to “skin his humps” 🫠😭

lauren baker

please read the book Pony by RJ palacio. wild west tin type shit

Chaillee Coleman

omfg i was OBSESSSSED with annie oakley growing up!!! i’m from ohio & grew up sport shooting & doing archery so i was equally convinced i was katniss everdeen & annie oakley 😭

chessie

Connie and I have the same birthday!!! of course she’s a leo 💞

Emma Kanjorski

PLEASE do a christmas virtual summit

ez

i really need to take a break from this podcast. the fact that it’s been a month and you guys won’t give more than a minute of airtime to the genocide in palestine when your whole podcast is dedicated to interrogating issues like this is just mind-boggling. i really hope that you will speak up for those who don’t have the voices to.

izzy

okay now crying about Annie’s man!!!!!!!

alex
>>121668178

Saying that “posting a selfie on Instagram is devastating and anxiety inducing” is not saying that other things are not devastating and anxiety inducing. Still confused about why you people think that Binchtopia is going to solve the genocide? Lmfao if only they were THAT good. Know your audience! I’m sorry, but the venn diagram of people listening to Binchtopia and people who need messaging on this issue is like, two circles very, very, very far apart. Stop villianizing these poor podcast hosts for not being your be-all-end-all news source on this issue.

Kristen Gload

I fear you are correct about the pernicious anemia 😖

Marisa Cramer

love this idea of going back thru not researched eps and redoing them!! as a 4lifer i would eat this content up

soph

have y’all watched Polyester’s podcast Kardashian Kolloquium? (not sure on spelling?) i think you’d love it, it talks abt all the kardashian weirdness. i don’t even watch the show and i love it

Luteal Swan

Posting on Instagram grid feels like someone seeing you naked

Ese

i’ve felt so distraught over the past month and broken down in tears more times than i can count bc of the horrors i’ve seen from gaza and i can’t even imagine what it’s like to actually experience them. seeing a father carry the remains of his child in plastic bags and the sheer amount of dead and injured people i’ve seen on social media has changed me forever and i know for a fact if i had such a large platform (especially if i was a white american) i know i would dedicate as much time as i could to educating my audience, raising + donating money and trying to organise to help people in gaza who are literally victims of genocide right now. i cannot in good conscience continue paying for this content knowing my money, although a very small amount is going towards the taxes of people who refuse to use their platform for good when it’s a ‘controversial issue’ and those taxes in turn fund imperial evil all over the world.

Niamh Barry

I love you guys but please, talk about the Palestine crisis? Your statement really wasn’t great, it could have been so much more. You both discuss on here a lot about anti capitalistic, anti colonialism etc etc and it’s happening before your very eyes right now.

Niamh Barry
>>121682948

Just saw Eliza donated her tour profits to Gaza emergency aid. That’s amazing Eliza! Slay! Please do consider speaking about the crisis more on the pod given all the topics you research and speak on.

Niamh Barry
>>121668178

I don’t believe people are villainising them at all. That’s not the point. The podcast was built on discussing and interrogating crisis and issues. An example would be the genocide of Palestinians. It’s escalated so much currently and hence why listeners are hoping they will at least talk about it on this large platform. There is a lot of misleading information regarding the crisis also. The platform could be utilised to interrogate these falsehoods and uncover the real facts. That is why people want this covered. It can be sent out to people who may not fully understand what is happening, in an accessible manner. Same goes to many episodes the girls have done on different topics such as the gender or sexuality one “panic ! At the gedner disco”. Breaking down large topics genuinely can change lives. And encourage people to donate and help Palestinians.

Kat
>>121668178

No one is villainizing them. I love their podcast and will continue to listen to it. I’m encouraging them to use their platform to speak out for Palestine like they have in the past for other issues. And if they were my only source of news I wouldn’t be informed on the issue and asking them to speak about it… Simply following my values and encouraging them to do the same.

freya
>>121671369

omg i forgot about their episode about ukraine…i was happy to see eliza’s instagram post but remembering the amount of attention they gave to ukraine has made me disappointed in them again. i know they can’t do a perfect job but they seriously need to give more airtime to the genocide

Mollie Edsell
>>121682746

You should visit Eliza’s instagram post from 3 hours ago, I think you’ll feel a lot better about supporting the pod if you see it

Ella Speer

Cannot wait for the Khloe K tell all after Kris dies

Ese
>>121682746

i’ve seen it and i think it’s great but julia’s refusal to say anything doesn’t sit right and is truly shocking to me. 10,300 palestinians have been murdered by israeli air strikes in a month. i just saw children in gaza holding a press conference begging for a chance to live. i personally think it’s disgusting to stay silent in response to this but maybe that’s just me

Tess Knoll

i’m also obsessed with calling people ___-heads. peter shamshiri your impact…

Erin Brent

Is Michaela bishop in the room with us right now? I live in Salem too!

jeen

i kept hearing “lisbon” like the virgin suicides but yall meant lesbian😭😭😭

jeen

connie is just like me fr

Gusty Westaway

MOUNT HOLYOKE REPRESENTATION lol grad here and can confirm all we did was read Emily Dickinson, chain smoke, and hike ❤️

Isø

Oooomg I’ve been listening to Connie Converse’s How Sad How Lovely album for years after Spotify recommended her during early lockdown, I had no idea about this lore!! Thank you, what an incredible person

bella

i’m dying at eliza waiting to see the full artillery before she decides what when she’s gna unload her clip onto the ig grid 😭

Darell Hawley

We are about to send $13B of our own tax money to Israel to continue funding the genocide of Palestine. I love this podcast because of how they’ve used their platform to advocate and educate but this silence is deafening.

Louis Kernahan

Soooo with the dog thing I’m CONVINCED that the dog no longer sees his owner as the alpha after seeing him submit to another !!!

Abbey W
>>121671369

yes the fact they said they wouldn’t do a full ep on Palestine but did a full ep about Ukraine makes me feel 🥴🥴 i’m glad eliza has posted here and there but julia’s silence is pretty disappointing. i know it must be tough for the Jewish community to take a stand against zionism but it is really important i feel.

Kara

please do a boy mom episode i’ve got some friends with momma’s boy boyfies who i will absolutely convert to binchies with that one

aine

PLEASE RELEASE THIS TO THR PUBLIC I NEED TO SHARE CONNIE WITH EVERYONE

abby del greco

i got full body chills when you said connie’s from laconia nh….okay next town over from my hometown in little nh! <3

Grace

The whole time Julia is talking about Annie Oakley all I can think about is alyssa Edwards as Annie Oakley

Luteal Swan

Y’all think Tyler Oakley and Annie Oakley are related

Izzy M

I always wonder who gets streaming revenue for artists like Connie Converse who disappeared or died before the digital age?

Olivia Brown

I’ve had a shit morning and I just said out loud to myself, in a baby voice, “you know what will make me feel better? My mommys. 🥺” *hits play

Annip
>>121680966

also honey i monetized the kids would go even harder w some research!!!!

Thomas Pham

I FEEL SO SEEN 😭😭😭

christian

thank you for showing me connie converse

Hannah

If any dog is gonna be bottom-phobic it makes sense that it’s an Akita lol

Nikita Latman

Anyone else hear the Akita/ submissive mailbox moment from the Fear& podcast?

Hannah

My dad put me in archery when I was 7 bc of how young Annie Oakley was when she got started and now I have all of these badass pics of me as a tiny babe standing next to the bullseyes I made, her impacttt

Allison Escobar

I can’t wait for the review of After! I saw the movie it’s so comically bad!

becca stickler

when I was maybe 8 I dressed up as annie Oakley for Halloween

Ese
>>121671369

makes it seem like only white europeans suffering from american proxy wars are worth their time and effort :(

Valeria Reynosa

When Julia and Eliza start re-recording their old podcast episodes with sources, it’s OVER for you hoes

Abbey W
>>121733489

i just saw @mattxiv on IG share it to his story, it’s a reddit post i guess??

Niamh

I’m so happy to hear some Connie converse love because she is truly a game changer - love Father Neptune and didn’t know she was so interesting! I’d also love more episodes about interesting musicians like Kate Bush or Tracy Chapman

Cielle Thiry-Hardenburg

Eliza, please consider not calling things your special interest and saying Connie might be Autistic, if you’re also going to be offended when a fan mentions you might be Autistic. It’s giving internalized ableism, especially given how much you think you’re like Connie. With love, an annoyed Autistic binchie.

donna kay

I heard eliza say the lyrics of connie converse and i was like !! i know these songs! they stuck me like a not so distinct memory that i knew every line of. i was convinced that these songs must be on every playlist i have because i knew them so fondly. i looked and they were actually only on one playlist from 2019 that i don't listen to anymore?? but like she said later, these lyrics STICK with you, people would remember these lyrics perfectly even if they only heard them in the 50's!!! this episode was so special to me!! connie is so special and so unique and i need to know everything about her now

ainsley

As a con head thank u for filling in some of the lore I didn’t know!!

slizzarddd

Eliza read The Lily of the Field and the Bird of the Air by Kierkegaard !

nadia

ANN ARBOR MENTIONED!!!!

Ella Rene

I cannot for the love of me find the Connie poem she wrote about Fran can someone help!! “you found your me i found my you” something like that???

Ella Rene

https://youtu.be/bUNpE6jkBus?si=-yzW03LRbbhCohuY Sharing this video by Khadijah about palestine, she really vocalizes a lot of the thoughts i’ve been having lately. I hope Julia and Eliza take a moment to watch too! I hope y’all decide to spent more time discussing the genocide on the pod when you feel prepared to do so (in terms of research etc)🩷 Sending my love to all during these truly HORRIFYING times

✨

I am one song in on the Connie converse album and I am crying

baby.yogurt

in 4th grade I was Annie Oakley for our annual wax museum thing and I remember nothing from researching her life so this is essentially all new fascinating info for me. all I do remember is the cute little Annie Oakley cosplay outfit that I thrifted from Plato's Closet

Marisa

Love. Thank you queenstresses.

EB
>>121761670

idk, it’s pretty weird for people who do not know you to try and diagnose you with something with absolutely zero credentials lol. especially when autism itself is so complex and many professionals struggle to accurately diagnose people

✨
>>121819393

Just want to add that whoever made the cover art for that album should go to jail. I'm gonna need a re-release with appropriate visuals.

Cielle Thiry-Hardenburg
>>121761670

I get where you’re coming from. I think drawing a boundary about not wanting people try to seriously diagnose you is fine, but getting that offended at a single podcast comment suggesting it as a possibility? also pretty weird. I have seen weirder comments about mental health (symptoms, diagnoses, you name it) all the time here that did not require multiple announcements on insta and the pod renouncing them.

bella
>>121708037

i made a typo bc i was belligerently high 😭 but at the beginning of the ep eliza makes an analogy comparing pictures = ammo and posting to her feed = unloading her ammo

milly stephenson

oh my god did they call him buffalo bill because he killed…bigger women???

Marissa

kinda grossed out how you’ve built your entire podcast on advocacy & when a genocide is happening, you’re silent. eliza donating her tour proceeds to Gaza is amazing, but they are begging us to be vocal. pleading with us to talk about what’s happening. your silence on your largest platform is very telling.

Sera Snyder

okay the way that Annie Oakley and Connie Converse were both Leos ♌️ the supreme of the zodiac signs

ixia
>>121910472

This. It’s just not sitting well with me, especially with how they swiftly made an episode on Ukraine.

Jacqueline

shonked to be hearing of Annie’s pernicious anemia as I am literally giving myself a b12 shot. I fear our queen was not living in the time of hydroxomethylcobalamin 😔

Chloe Dawson

Need a tag on the Patreon of all of the AITA episodes so I don’t have to shift through and search for them every time I have to do housework 🧎‍♀️

annina
>>121910472

feeling the same! also feels like the episodes are generally a lot less political/educational/anticapitalist lately and it makes me sad

Hope Kerrigan

the way i’m throwing up crying at connie converse album im a conhead

Anna Cork

does anyone have the link to the connie’s poem “you found your me I found my you”? i’ve done some googling but I can’t find it. it really touched me and I wanted to see the copy of anyone knows where to find!

Berkley 🌸

Eliza I have entered an obsessive state about Connie Converse... especially growing up and living an hour from Ann Arbor.

Lauren Heine

I’m reading To Anyone Who Ever Aks rn and at one point the author literally references Annie Get Your Gun…. He prophesied this episode

Milly

love it

Nidhi

ily and love this episode i just had a question. i am so desperately trying to listen to the mediasodes you talk so highly of. WHICH patreon subsricption level is it?