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The girlies return to the world of family vloggers to answer the important questions — how did the momfluencer come to be and why are we so obsessed with her? Can children ever meaningfully consent to being shared online? Did Jean Baudrillard predict our real life Truman Show with Simulacra and Simulation in 1981? Digressions include your newest NY Times covergirls, the Binchtopia Boy Draft, and one listener’s experience as an assistant momager.

SOURCES:

Momfluenced: Inside the Maddening, Picture-Perfect World of Mommy Influencer Culture by Sara Petersen

Social Comparison Theory

Simulacra and Simulation by Jean Baudrillard

Are We To Be Forever Trapped Between the Two? The Internet, Modernity, and Postmodernity in the Early 21st Century by Sarah Michele Ford

Child-produced content and the simulation of childhood: what talking to children about YouTube Kids can teach us about the possibilities of Public Service Media by Dr. Jane O’Connor

New law entitles child social media influencers to a percentage of earnings: ‘It’s kind of a new world’

Why did Mark Zuckerberg cover his kids’ faces on Instagram? Here's what we know

Their lives were documented online from birth. Now, they’re coming of age

The YouTube Parents Who are Turning Family Moments into Big Bucks

Kidfluencers Are Today’s Version of Chimney Sweeps

Research Brief: “Sharenting” and Child Influencers

Sharenting: parent blogging and the boundaries of the digital self

Ruby Franke, Parenting Advice YouTuber, Charged With Child Abuse

​​Who is Ruby Franke? What to know about the mommy vlogger accused of child abuse.

How Susan Schofield’s family YouTube channel became a nightmare

Very Early-Onset Schizophrenia in a Six-Year-Old Boy

Comments

Kay

Instant click

KiffyBlenky

this topic has always fascinated me! can’t wait to listen to the ep!

Sarah

I just manifested this being posted rn wtf my mind

AJ

thank god 🙏 i’m on a long bus ride to a job interview now i can bring the binchies with me

Juliana Dexter

so excited! literally writing a final paper for my media theory class on exactly this

Luteal Swan

Sitting my ass down And listening

Courtenay Schembri Gray

This not meant as an insult, but I’m always surprised at how you don’t know some things. You’re close to my age, right? I’m 26.

Kay

Boy draft reminds me how gay I am

Lauren Brooks

you guys saved me of dying of boredom at my office job, thank you

abby reddy

i am a lesbian so boy drafts is baffling to me

emily

anyone remember the boy draft episode on one tree hill ?? iconic

KiffyBlenky

please share the boy draft rules that is hilarious

Tonia

Julia, that‘s how you say David Duchovny ! looove him on x files. i also need the rules to boy draft

Jordan L

Pleaseee post the boy draft rules

Úna

Andy samberg girlies RISE

Narcisa

In regards to young children having schizophrenia, the reason it is insanely rare to diagnose someone under 18 (tbh a lot of the time under 25) is because the parts of your brain that are affected by schizophrenia aren’t fully developed until your early to mid twenties. I work in psych and I have had patients with psychotic symptoms that are in their teens, but they’re typically not actually diagnosed with schizophrenia right away because that is a very serious diagnosis. Psychotic symptoms do not automatically mean schizophrenia.

Yves_ell

PLEASE drop the boy draft rules oh my god.... About to embarrass myself and giggle with my girls 😵😵😼

Jenni ✨️

I'm sorry but Hozier and (GILF) David Duchovny as holdover drafts are IMPECCABLE

Yves_ell

I just ventured back into the mire of Instagram to check if the rules are posted there pleeeeeease I want this activity parameter bad

kat

i had a sex dream about adam sandler once

Emilie

Jg,?,()877))(8!!!!!!!!!!?,???9(88888$$)chhjjjjjjjojhhx???oo

Julia Battista

LAKEITH STANFIELD MENTIONED 📣📣🤪‼️‼️‼️

Hal

The shaytards actually live in my city (the great Pocatello Idaho) and the dad bought the local ski hill and within a couple years has almost doubled all the ticket prices and stopped doing a ton of community events to cut costs 😻😻 a capitalist with many forms

Luteal Swan

This girl in my HS class became a Christian mommy blogger and she got her infant daughters identity stolen..someone created a fake fb account trying to pass her daughter off as their own. As much as I feel like it would be morally right to feel bad for her(the mom) I didn’t. She chose to exploit her baby who can’t consent or conceptualize what’s going on, now she has 3 kids and i honestly feel pretty bad for them that their lives are on display and hope they develop okay. I don’t even know why it’s worth it to her cuz she doesn’t have a lot of followers. I know I sound bitter af, I just feel children are so precious and should not be vessels for the parents egoic desires. If I have kids, I will never post their face/ name and I will literally make people sign a contract saying they won’t post my kids lmao. Better safe than sorry. Anyway loved the ep as always

Rose

Tuned in after a few weeks of not listening, hoping you would mention the need for a ceasefire in Palestine. Or address the comments on your socials about how hallow your last few eps have felt for a few of us given your lack of vocal support for freeing Palestine. Especially if you’re making an episode on children and the rights of children. Won’t be tuning in again I fear :(

Hannah 🌸

LOOOOOOVING the 8D chess corner!!!! Needed some more galaxy brain in my life (how many layers of simulacra is this)

sonny

ladies i’m halfway through and gonna start spiraling

EB

in regards to the last few minutes of this ep, i do think the consumer has a responsibility to not view content they know is damaging to children. like yes it is more so the responsibility of the platforms and the parents but also… if you know what you’re watching will have long term effects on a child then why would you want to watch it in the first place? it’s profitable bc we are consuming it

baby.yogurt

recently I saw someone post about how the only acceptable way for monogamous people to think about being with someone other than their partner is making lists of hot celebrities they'd be allowed to sleep with because that is too unrealistic to be taken seriously and this Boy Draft is reminding me of that........ also Eliza's comment on Chris Hemsworth looking men aka protoypical hot guys is how I feel about most celebs, like they fit the beauty standard so much that they end up looking boring and bland unfortunately

girlypop

not the instagram simulacra explanation when im on instagram literally looooooking…. nooooo

girlypop

agreed that it was an oversight not to call for a ceasefire or mention the children suffering in palestine. girlies i believe u can do better! ik ur not news reporters but even just mentioning it would be better than silence.

girlypop

girlies consider including links in the bio of each ep for actions we can take to call for ceasefire! if ur mad that eliza and julia arent talking ab the ongoing genocide consider taking actions of ur own as i hope they are also doing. anyone reading this please follow this link to support a ceasefire in palestine! 🍉❤️🤍💚 https://5calls.org/?fbclid=PAAaYU-8qWOSjqmvwfL793GW7FYpv5uf4QiCiUlE_edYYSz0GwCdIHc5jMCSI_aem_AWPmDgWP3aq43TFM_gh7rcU2OQlRDniMDMCu5tulFiqc_S0mre3X3No_k2__pKN3IwI

SlenderLADY 💅🏽

Ok I’m only a few mins into the episode but I gotta sayyyyyy those “boy drafts” were a little too Anglo-centric for me 😕 Idris Elba? Lakeith Stanfield? MALUMA?! Where is the flavor 😤

maya

new fav ep for SURE

Laura Andersen

PLEEEAAASE post the rules for the boy draft so I can play xoxo thank you

leafy

goddd the depravity that capitalism inspires I’m so disturbed

Rose

It’s hard because I understand not wanting to be an influencer or the person people look to for information but they kind of have become that for some. So many listeners comment how much they learn from each episode. Again this doesn’t need to be a whole episode but should be touched on especially as things get worse. Another listener had commented saying it would be great for them to maybe do an episode not on the conflict entirely but touch on Palestinian culture and symbolic aspects of their country and communities.

Cambri Elder

Boy draft first picks: Michael B. Jordan and Christian Bale

Josefina Troncoso

girlies I’m actually screaming… so because I’m doing a relisten of the entire Binchtopia catalogue I was listening to Evicted from Kitty City before this, and in that one you wonder why the NYT hasn’t written about you!!! and now it has!!! things have come full fucking circle!!! 🥹 your minds… anyway wooow. this episode made me want to get my fallopian tubes tied or my uterus yeeted because we truly live in a society and I feel like I’d reach Unabomber levels of hatred for technology if my child ever discovered YouTube

Josefina Troncoso

I honestly felt kind of sad when Eliza laughed at the idea of Brendan Fraser being in one of those lists considering how much he’s been through :( idk

Angeline

Can i please get the rules to the boy draft

sophie hunter

Eliza thinking it’s silly to put Brendan in the TOP 5 most attractive men is not rude. It’s just her preference and has nothing to do with everything he’s been through

Vooki Gunvalson

eliza a man I know from college who def doesn’t know abt binchtopia put a pic of you in the middle of his aesthetic ig photo dump and that had me gagged. he has taste tho

Angela Darley

pleaseeee release the boy draft rules - also my top pick would be tamino !

lizzy

What do y'all two think about that scary Norwegian lesbian couple who are having a baby for content? I do not have tiktok but they loom large in my general awareness and it gives me the Fear thinking about a child being born into that horrible giant clown house to be gawked at by people on the internet

M

I remember watching those videos of Janie when I was young. It makes me so sick that their mother is exploiting them to that level.

M

I know what you’re talking about!! I haven’t seen their content in awhile

Josie

Tell me why I kept hearing simulacra and thinking similac like the baby formula

Charlie Wright

I teach elementary school and whenever the kids talk about Ryan’s world another teacher is like “yall need to be studied” and now my autistic ass is going to be like Actually It Has Been Studied

mimi

i was thinking about this last week when they were talking about children getting hurt and losing limbs in work environments, and how mind-boggling that lack of protection was... while right now the highest per-capita rate of children amputees (and generally children killed) in the world is taking place in gaza... terribly ironic parallel

Ann

Side note but Dr Phil and shows like that are insane. In 3rd grade, a boy from my class’ mom was featured on Dr Phil for being a hoarder. Idk how it was arranged, we were literally in a random suburb in Ohio. But I remember my mom wouldn’t let me watch it but other kids did and the boy was obviously very embarrassed and didn’t want to be filmed but we were literally 8 years old so we just thought it was funny/crazy

Chloe

I saw a TikTok of a mom filming her grocery haul and her 2 year old daughter walked up to her mom, handed her a carton of blueberries, and said "snack!" and her mom literally said "not now, honey, Mommy is making a TikTok." I saw this months ago and I literally can't stop thinking about it. I know parents can't drop everything to help their kids, but I would sincerely hope that most would stop filming a video to feed their children.

EmD

On your journey to WHAT Joe Rogan??

bug

BOY DRAFT BONUS EP PLEASE

Zoë Grenier

Trying to think of my boy draft is making me realize I am so much gayer than I thought

Reagan Gorzynski

Do kids actually want to be influencers or do they like the idea of having tons of money and getting to do things they enjoy?

ez

free palestine 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸

KE

very good episodes binchies!!! this kinda makes me think of this one girl I know from my hometown who opened a coffee shop with an indoor playground so people can bring their kids. obviously it’s a great resource for moms/dad/caregivers who need to get out of the house but the branding/aesthetic of this place is really giving “perfect setting for mommy’s instagram reels” vibes

ez

it is so disappointing. i fear the only way to make them speak is a mass cancellation of people’s patreon subscriptions. :( sad because i love the bonus episodes but i can’t support their complacency on this issue.

Coyote

FREE PALESTINE!!!! cough cough use your platform 👀👄

jaden.edu

Yall fucking me up with this one my brain hurts

Bella Romero

as soon as i heard childhood schizophrenia i called bullshit. my childhood best friend had one of the youngest cases of schizophrenia in america and we were in elementary or middle school so definitely not a fucking toddler. unfortunately i am very familiar with the rarity of adolescent schizophrenia HAHA i also know what hallucinations can look like and i’m not sure the whole biting thing aligns with my knowledge/experience

Cori Litt

a BANGER episode. listening to you tie this into baudrillard was like a massage for my brain, more please

Cori Litt

genuinely tho postmodern philosophy relates so hard to the current climate of our ~society~ I would luv to hear you explore it more

Paola Ayre

Agree it really needs to be acknowledged on an ongoing basis. At least Eliza has been posting.

Hannah

lmao at horrible giant clown house. they had their baby and have kept his face covered in videos so far actually. but those girlies are raking it in from the content bc that house Is giant and those renovations can't be cheap

Hannah

please listen to your patrons and use your platform at the very least to share resources for aid, protests, etc about Palestine. You have such a wide reach and it's shocking that a political podcast isn't even posting on their stories or anything about this horrific genocide

Imogen Phisher

Absolute banger of an ep!! this is the new ep to recommend new listeners for sure. Bless you!

lizzy

Despite them doing all this identity protection stuff, it's pretty hard to deny their entire content mill is now made on the backs of their having a baby. Which is sort of the whole point of this episode - family vlogs are a grist mill for grinding every potential dollar out of the very bringing into existence of a child. Why else would they have recorded all those grueling videos about the blonde one having a miscarriage? It's so disturbing!

bella

listening to this high was such a mistake i am spiraling after eliza’s galaxy brain corner 😭 facts and it’s always something im thinking about superficially but if i think about it for too long it gets existential and extremely frightening

caroline

Y’all I’m so sorry to tell you but I have confirmation from my pastry chef who was filmed for his tv show that tucci is an asshole

libby

No bc I stand with Eliza for drafting Jeremy Strong. My first pick was Kieran Culkin, somehow even S4 Roman didn’t give me the ick for that man

cek99

I thought about Gaza’s children during that episode too😢 @mimi

Wawallama

I also find it super weird when the Kardashians post pictures of the the children together and even women comment saying like “Chicago is the prettiest etc” like stop they are children they don’t need to be compared 😫😫

clairecancook

I recommend reading "Crushed" from Atavist mag!! There is an audio version for the podcast lovers!

izzy

Picturing the friend group talking about boys THREW me back into high school in a way I was not anticipating… my brain was just crickets

Sam Haimowitz

DAVID DUCHOVNY IS AND ALWAYS HAS BEEN SEXY AS HELL

Sam Haimowitz

feeling like an old hag because Sarah’s Boy Draft SLAYED! Brendan Frasier?? Jensen Ackles??? Jon Hamm?? DEV PATEL????? SLAY!!!!!!

Sam Haimowitz

I’m so glad Eliza finally said Lakeith Stanfield because 1, these lists were getting very fucking white and I was WAITIIIIING and 2, I’m tired of people pretending that he isn’t fine as hell just because he’s a fucking cringelord

Maddie G

I am Begging on my hands and knees for the rules to Boy Draft to be published

Gopi

I loved this ep, thank u bincherellas! My partner and I are so clear about not posting our kid online, not even just by censoring her face or whatever but we share no details, no updates on her development or personality (it’s kinda funny that we’re so staunch bc we both have very small, private accounts) and this whole ep just affirmed my decision/values around this heaps. I truly feel like it’s a duty of care issue, if my fully developed 28 year old mind can barely comprehend wtf the internet is and the sheer scale of its reach, how the fuck can I be okay with putting my fuckin toddler up there??? Also as a mum, photographing/posting your child /making motherhood the central part of your online self is such an easy way to temporarily ameliorate your own loneliness and anxiety but it’s a really hollow fix and doesn’t do shit to actually help you connect with irl community which is truly the only thing that will help lift some of that heaviness. Anyway. Food 4 thot from a mum! Love from Melbourne x

melf

re: boy draft!!! my bf and his friends have a morbid version where they get together every year to draft which celebs they think will die in the coming year. they get more points if they predict a younger celeb dying. it’s crazy and truly only something men will do and now every time i hear of a celeb passing i think, “i wonder if anyone had them in the death pool!”

isbly

i listened to this today and then watched a reunion episode of real housewives (SLC) and could NOT stop thinking SIMULATION!!! SIMULACRA!!!

Sydney Sullivan

listening to this 🍃🍃 and i HAVE to pause until tomorrow you’re fracturing my worldview

Julianna Faye

betty draper would have been THEEEEE mommy blogger

Milly

love it

Alex Nathan

I’m pretty sure Slavoj Žižek said something really similar about Disney being a dream/simulation in the Sublime Object of Ideology a few years before Jean Baudrillard

jadyn

Where’s the regular ep for today???

Sarah

My top pick would definitely be LaKeith Stanfield

Lizzy

finally joined patreon to say WE NEED THE BOY DRAFT RULES!!! hahahaha