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Getting to the -core of It (Patreon)

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The girlies dive deep into the micro-trends that have been populating the internet over the last few years. From cottage-core to ballet-core, clean girl to mob wife, they rank microaesthetics based on the level of abject harm they cause to women, the pedophilic undertones, and whether or not they make their brains Soup. Digressions include welcoming Ballerina Farm into the NYT club and digging up dirt on the other Mormon influencers.

See photos mentioned here 

OFFICIAL RANKING: 

Cute and Harmless

  • mob wife
  • mermaid-core / siren-core
  • blokette
  • pale grunge
  • fairy-core

Not Abjectly Taking Away Women’s Rights

  • dark academia
  • Barbie-core
  • cottage-core
  • coastal grandmother / granddaughter
  • indie sleaze

This Makes My Brain Soup

  • tomato girl
  • vanilla girl
  • pilates princess
  • coastal cowgirl

It Makes Me Feel Bad About Myself and Others

  • clean girl
  • ballet-core
  • rockstar girlfriend
  • quiet luxury

P*dophelia/Hate Crime

  • lolita / coquette
  • bimbo

Comments

Tilley Winokur

PEOPLE ARE WATCHING AND LISTENING TO YOU, USE YOUR PLATFORM FOR GOOD. YOU HAVE INFLUENCE.

Kara

yaaaaas right before my 8 hour flight from london to nyc needed this

Tilley Winokur

this is a feminist issue, as two people who claim to be feminists SHOW US THAT YOU MEAN IT

Allie B

Omggg the graphics happened to me if you do two thumbs up it’s fireworks and if you hold heart there’s hearts

Shaelan Donovan

I know all this microtrend content exists on Instagram too but I'm sooooooo thankful I've never downloaded Tiktok because my brain melts just reading this list

KE

Feeling seen by the Bible camp talk…….

Isø
>>129066434

Please focus your energy somewhere that could actually make a difference. Whether or not the binchtopia podcast specifically speaks on this is not the noble battle you think it is. You’re acting like they have the power to make a meaningful difference and are choosing not to, when this is obviously not the case. This is not the only source of information for any listener, we have so many better sources, I do not feel lacking in the binchtopia take. Be grateful for the millions of people already choosing to speak on this and accept that you can’t force people to if they don’t want to. I know you have good intentions but please open your mind and use your logical brain about this.

sofia

micro trends and niche aesthetics are for lazy people who don’t know how to search on Pinterest on their own

sofia
>>129069250

like “blueberry milk nails” was so revealing that ppl never learned of cornflower or periwinkle

Hannah

Old Money is the grand parents, Quiet Luxury is the parents, Clean Girl is the daughter. I rest my case

blaine

Coastal grandmother is very Nancy Meyers

sofia

S: cute and harmless A: not abjectly taking away women’s rights B: brain soup F: head in oven’s

kenny

i used to shoot and edit “testimony” vids for the evangelical church i worked for 😵‍💫😵‍💫 one of them was a girl talking abt her “addiction” to porn :/

Maddy

Cartoon core is autism babes. I have literally like 3 outfits and that's it lol

Leah Winston

Were you guys talking about model off duty??

Marsss

At my church camp they forced everyone to take a vow of chastity and put on a “purity belt” which if taken off would send us straight to hell 🫠

Haylee Keller

You all have to watch Escaping Polygamy on Hulu. It’s giving Ballerina farm

Olivia

Go to the Salt Lake City airport and you will instantly understand the wealth of Mormons

Sam

ELIZA IM WITH YOU LOL YOUNGLIFE CAMP WAS HELL. My “mentor” told me I had to atone for my sins which were the reasons my parents got divorced??? Actual insanity.

Olivia
>>129071678

Alsoooo I went to this church convention in middle school w my own church and at the end of the week they’d lock us all in a hotel room until we all shared our testimony/reflection from the weekend. They called it our “so what” where we had to share what we were taking away. Anyway it would get so hot in the room bc everyone is nervous sweating and crying. I had a panic attack in the bathroom of said hotel room and they STILL made me share. So yes I have religious trauma

Luteal Swan

Nymphet alumni does a realllyyyy good deep dive on the Mormon culture integrating in online influencer culture if yall are interested

Kathryn

I remember you sweet pea girls, I cannot smell sweet pea and not be triggered into 7th grade locker room.

Viviana

where are the discussed pics?

Luteal Swan

Also wanted to share I am 41 days sober from tiktok and I do feel my brain putting itself back together, also deleted all other social apps/ deactivated accounts since your phone episode last year. It’s true, it is because of those damn phones. Being online isn’t always a bad thing, it’s a tool if we use the internet consciously, but it’s been coming to a point where there’s a lot of groupthink and people lose their discernment about so many aspects of life. Micro trends are just one example, but it’s starting to get scary out there, like idiocracy.

Alice Zhang

I think the little glasses one is “office siren core” like the devil wears prada vibes

Abby

~Why you gotta fight with me at Cheesecake, you know I love to go there~

Nina Sophie

Neeeeed to see the photos

sofia

u guys are shitting on office siren!!

M

She competed at the Mrs World pageant in Las Vegas and I met her and her 8 kids there 🥹

Rose

Photo album NOW

Avalon Barr

I believe Bella hadid little glasses would be office siren. Like that one office character in devil wears Prada

Vicki Tsai

THAT RANKING LIST HAS ME CACKLING SKSJDKA 😭

Juliette Castro
>>129066434

I agree with some of your points but I do find your consistent responses to anyone bringing up their desire for the Binchies to expand on Palestine reductive. You keep assuming that the commenters are doing so because they think Eliza & Julia are capable of making a dent in the global conflict, when these commenters have repeatedly expressed that is not their justification. You also seem to keep assuming that people are virtue signaling, which may be true for some, but I lean toward the idea that most in this community have good intentions. Also, to say the commenters are not being logical/haven't thought this through is rude at best, demeaning at worst. Just because they disagree with your perception of this issue doesn't mean they need to "use [their] logical brain"-- their logic & politics has led them to a different conclusion than you, and maybe you're the one that needs to accept that. While I do agree that their methods are too harsh and that Eliza & Julia deserve a bit more grace in this topic when we don't know what's going on behind the scenes, to say that the Binchies aren't obligated to expand on the conflict because "we have better sources" is a red herring. Of COURSE there are better sources-- Palestine natives and journalists mainly. This does not negate the fact that these two well educated women could illuminate aspects of this conflict specific to them and their platform, and in a manner that may be more accessible to some of their listeners (just like they've done with many other topics/discourse/conflicts that ALSO had millions of other voices covering them). And to say that every listener of Binchtopia is going to seek out those credible outside sources you mentioned seems misguided/naive. It's become clear to me that they have many young listeners who may not have come into activism yet, and many liberal listeners who don't care to educate themselves unless it's from their favorite pod. Yes, obviously Eliza and Julia can do whatever they want with their OWN platform, and people can take the content or leave it, but that doesn't mean people wont argue that they have a moral imperative to reach and educate those listeners. And for those already educated on the conflict, you're right that there's plenty of voices the Hosts can be spotlighting! But absolutely NOT "millions", esp. in the West which is seized by plenty of propaganda/misinformation at the moment. The more experts we can hear from on this topic the better, and they have the power to platform those people to a large audience. No, people cannot force them to do anything. But to discourage commenters from using a leftist space/community to put pressure on them to do so is really antithetical to what this pod has always preached. I also just think the refusal to acknowledge the fact that there is discourse happening in the comments, which they always do, is heightening people's emotions/anger. I don't even know QUITE where I stand on all of this, but I don't think it's right to discourage this conversation.

Emily King

As an exmormon this was SO entertaining hearing you guys speculate about Mormon influencer culture😂

Rebecca Thornley

Another ex Mormon here, LOVE hearing you guys talk about Mormonism and the influencers of it all!!!!

Alexia B

saying curly girls wearing slicked back buns is unflattering is sooooooo crazy when the style was literally created by black and latina women and appropriated by yt influencer girlies as “clean girl aesthetic” 😐 these white girls are pissing me off today

Adelaide Rava

Fairy core is so selkie dress and I love it sooo much ngl 🧚🏼‍♀️🧚🏼 totally world bending cosplay shit too

Rebecca Thornley

The stories I have from Mormon testimony meetings…

Grace Keane O'Connor

Can someone Puh lease make a Pinterest board or slide show or something to demonstrate these aesthetics to my tiktokless self hahah

lauren

coastal cowgirl would've eaten a little harder last summer if it weren't for the strike i fear, like if the daisy jones cast had actually done live shows

fiona

my crush follows ballerina farm on instagram and i’m really not sure if that’s cause for concern

Diana Sarah

Resubscribing to the Patreon is my first slay of 2024

Ann
>>129074750

I deleted Instagram and Facebook at the beginning of this year (the 2 hardest for me to get rid of) after years of trying to “cut back” but being literally addicted to scrolling despite the actual turmoil it was causing me. I kept telling myself I would lose connections with my family and friends, but it got to the point where I just had to do it. It’s been a little difficult, for sure, but I feel like my brain is actually changing. I feel so much more present and aware and clear-minded. I am reading more, cooking more, and just feel more level-headed in general. I can put more focus on things I actually care about, because my brain isn’t being pulled in a million different directions from watching 10 different videos per minute, and I’m not being told what I should care about by influencers or clickbait headlines or gross sponsored posts from people I don’t even follow. The 30 day deactivation period has passed so my accounts are permanently deleted and I don’t think I’ll ever look back tbh

Luteal Swan
>>129074750

That’s amazing!!!! I 1000% agree. The anxiety that is alleviated by not knowing what other people are doing, the overstimulation, and the peace of not feeling like you have to share random aspects of your life, is unmatched. Also it makes interactions more authentic, like sending your friends a picture instead of just posting it on your story, only true blue people having access to you. I feel like there’s a lot of monitoring spirits on social media and not being accessible is so powerful

S Johnson

Do you know Chrissy Chalpeka? not sure how to spell it but their platform is about bimbo-ism?

Francesca Schneider

minus the schoolgirl part, dark academia is actually serving androgynous lesbian style and kinda slaying 🥵

Lisa

Silky?

Isø
>>129066434

I am genuinely sorry that I keep responding, I do hate myself for it. I always tell myself to stop because it’s stressful and useless to try to get though to strangers in comments sections - and then I can’t help myself from trying again when I see another listener expressing how upset, disappointed or angry they are about ‘binchtopia ignoring/endorsing genocide’ and ‘choosing the side of the oppressor’ for not speaking on it enough. This comes across as severe black and white thinking and it’s stressful that so many people seem to be stuck in this reductive mindset. To me, they’re pointing fingers at the wrong people and fighting a meaningless battle about whether or not the binchtopia podcast adequately addresses the current genocide, as if they have the power to make any meaningful difference. I just want people to try understanding another point of view and that’s stupid of me really, I know. I do think the hosts of Binchtopia have every right to set boundaries about what they’re mentally/emotionally capable of focusing on at this time. This is fine because thankfully they are not necessary educators to literally anyone. I really strongly disagree with the outlook that simply ‘having a platform’ makes someone morally obligated to talk about the worst things happening in the world, terrible things will keep happening even when the ceasefire eventually happens (and hopefully we are close to one now), they’d have to just rebrand the entire vibe of their podcast to only talk about all the suffering in the world, lest they be deemed hypocrites for not mentioning it all. They should be able to talk about whatever they want, I do believe that them speaking on this would not inform anyone of new information. If any listener is truly still ignorant, a binchtopia episode won’t help them. I know people are entitled to feel however they want, but they should also understand that there are many other ways of understanding the situation. If you find it unbelievable that they still aren’t acknowledging this, maybe just try understanding their point of view and focus your energy elsewhere. It’s clear to me that they have many young listeners that are deeply into activism, but haven’t thought through their goals. I’m still just struggling to understand the desperate need for them to retract the boundaries they already set, as if it would genuinely help with the conflict in the Middle East. That seems naive to me. People have conceded that it’s not about educating the listeners, or making a meaningful difference, so I just find the need to shame and abandon a (mostly light and comedic) podcast a bit odd. I just think we should all value nuanced, empathetic and reasoned thought and not jump to illogical extremes. Sorry to everyone for being annoying.

themoodysister
>>129079393

i was just about to type out this exact message thank you… and during black history month? please

avvsies

I’m from the California central coast so coastal cowgirl is REAL and my favorite vibe 🥲🥲🥲🥲

Katelynn Hennessy

THE PHOTO OF ELIZA IN THE BACKWARDS HAT IS SENDDDDDINGGG ME

sis and bub

you guys will never believe what happens when you do two thumb downs on facetime

clara
>>129073710

there’s a hyperlink to a google doc with them in the bio of the ep!

Nikki Humble

ok so couple of fun facts abt nara: she is half german and south african, and she’s a model and influencer so her tradposting is in the vein of ballerina farm where it’s a lil more covert.

Haley

not eliza bringing up drake after yesterday 🤭🤭

Luteal Swan

Coastal cowgirl is Mendocino and Humboldt counties in California. Edit: also crescent city bc it’s “Oklahoma by the sea” aaanddd San Louis obispo

Emily West

Coastal Cowgirl is p prevalent in FL (st.pete area) just think white cowgirl boots, and bikinis lol

in a place of

help are they still doing a bonus ep on a court of thorns and roses

Grace Dolan

Okay but the title of this episode is perfect-core

Annip
>>129096563

they better be because i am not audiobooking these things for nothing 😅

in a place of
>>129096563

no literally I’m on the second book and it’s giving brain soup but now I’m kinda hooked

Bella Maddy and Mikayla

so glad we got to experience your discovery of these random ass facetime effects

halle

personally not ready to move past naming your children slim easy and rumble honey

Bea

before binchtopia i did not have shit to say to anyone. i was a flop, and was NOT bootsing down. now that ive dedicated nearly 4 years of my life to the gospel, i have ki-ed to the gods. i have gotten results. i’m no longer a thornback and have served so much cunt. THIS is my testimony

sarah

re: the facetime thing, do heart hands and it makes hearts

Emily
>>129074750

I deleted mine toooo! Unfortunately for me the pull of Facebook marketplace was simply too strong so I reactivated but just kept the app off my phone. I’ll only crack my laptop if I’m trying to find something specific so it’s doing it’s job. I also do unfortunately check some Insta accounts on my man’s phone. Last night he said, “I saw u followed Binchtopia on my account so I unfollowed them”. Naturally I broke up with him 😗🤩

Sienna

can you guys pleaaase discuss the influx of influencers on instagram trying to sell their digital marketing courses? i would love your thoughts and maybe a little exposé

Emme

Me feeling ATTACKED with my slick back. I swear it works so well for working as a nurse 😫

Dana Garel

Gav's voice pulled me out of a panic attack last night. this morning, it's like a comforting friend checking in. Thanks Gav

Dynasti deGouville

The Pick Me Up I'm Scared podcast has an excellent episode on the relationship between the US and Israel. I understand wanting the girls to do an ep on this, but bullying them into doing exactly what you want them to do is not going to educate you further and it isn't going to change the realities of the atrocities going on in Palestine. There are plenty of other sources to get your info from, and honestly the hosts of PMUIS are doing a much better deep dive than I think Julia and Eliza are capable of. Go listen if you'd like to educate yourself and PLEASE leave Julia and Eliza alone

Cayley Wright

lmao my friend madison wrote that ballerina farm nyt article

Kenzie

Rise up Sweet Pea Girls!

Nia Montgomery

Dancer here and must say ballet-core is def pedophilic, ballet dancer attire for women is in general. I’ve been told the goal is to make you look young and child-like.

Delaney Coyne

THANK YOU for speaking against the SCOURGE that is the slick back bun —a curly binchie

Camille
>>129079393

Exactly and IMO a slick back looks BETTER on textured hair when the product is shiny and gorgeous and the natural wave pattern shows through🤩

Heather Klingsporn

I share this account with my mom, so it’s her name but thanks for shouting out the tboy listeners. I am 1/15.

Chloe Starr

we wanna see the hey mamas eliza photo please

Crunchy Carrot

You binchies must listen to Nymphet Alumni and their takes on the different cores… they have episodes which cover the fashion /historical specifics of dark academia, clean girl/that girl, trad wives, blokette, twee etc etc they are sooo fascinating (and hilarious too). my fave podcast after binchtopia!!!

Abbey W
>>129107895

for me personally, i’m not looking to julia and eliza to educate me on the subject. i’m following plenty of Palestinian journalists in Gaza and accounts focused solely on Palestine that I don’t need them to teach me anything. that being said, i’m confused as to why this topic in particular is somehow too complicated for them to speak about beyond their one statement months ago. they’ve covered cop city in Atlanta, gentrification, Ukraine & Russia, and many other nuanced issues. at this point i’m not even wishing they’d do a full episode on it, a simple “free palestine and contact your reps to demand a ceasefire and end to US support of Israel” at the top or bottom of their episodes would suffice for me. they have a substantial platform and they’ve used it to promote causes before such as LGBTQ rights and reproductive rights. i just think it’s weird a lot of people are excusing their silence with “they can’t do the topic justice” or “they’re not obligated to educate us” as if they aren’t incredibly well read, articulate, intellectual people with a platform that’s partially built on educating people. i believe they’re more than capable of doing an episode on it, but like you said they’re not obligated to. nonetheless, some binchies are disappointed with that.

Dynasti deGouville
>>129107895

I understand being disappointed but... like I said.... bullying them into submission is not the solution here. Nonetheless, I provided an alternative source to get info and you wrote me a book. One of us is actually doing something. See how that works?

blokette

as a bitch who lives in la… the mob wife thing is so true 😭 i wore my big fur cheetah print coat because… cold and fashun! and multiple men asked where my pimp was…

Avery Nicholson

binches please come get the pei anne of green gables core experience i’ll show you around

slizzarddd

SARAH BEE YESSSS she is a guilty obsession I fear

nicky

Office siren/bayonetta is what Gabriette is doing!!

Cielle Thiry-Hardenburg

such a well researched well thought out episode! I’m so glad nothing changed for me as a patron subscriber!

Audrey Jones

binchies i beg of you please stop using pedophilia so loosely, it takes away from the meaning of the word. things can be predatory but not pedophilic

Naila Speaks-LaBrie (NY-EE-LA)
>>129079393

And even if they somehow didn’t know the origin of the slick back, did they not see the discourse going in depth about how the clean girl hair styles have roots in black/latina culture? It was all over social media after the clean girl aesthetic blew up….

Amber
>>129105184

The courses piss me off. People are spending hundreds to get scammed and it sucks to see 😭 the people selling them make their salary off of scamming others, not even off of a SiX FigUrE TeCh JoB

Abbey W
>>129107895

i never suggested “bullying” them was a solution. so sorry my “book” was useless to you. since we are providing alternative sources, people can also check out the IG page @letstalkpalestine and follow journalists such as @wizard_bisan1 and @dahman.eyad.

willow

hiiii, if you want to read more about holy women and their relationship to food and fasting, (and more!) I really recommend Holy Feast, Holy Feast by Caroline Walker Bynum, and reallllyyyy really recommend her book Fragmentation and Redemption. the latter, especially the last few chapters, CHANGED my life and inspired my grad school research. okay bye love u 🥸

lola bolado

JOANNA KUCHTA IS A FRIEND OF RHE POD???

Josefina Troncoso

Julia… the POINT of lolita style is to distance themselves from the associations the word has and to reclaim their right to independence and self expression when this expression involves ‘childlike’ elements that we as young women are supposedly no longer allowed to explore and revel in due to our age. It’s a movement with a 30+ year history. Eliza was right. Also, unrelated but sorry but this keeps making me feel really uncomfortable: I know it’s unsafe for a lot of Jewish people to come out with pro Palestine feelings when their family might be very staunchly zionist, but why not make a statement for Patreon subscribers saying exactly what’s been so difficult about speaking about it? This is the biggest war-related humanitarian crisis of our lives and you’re losing credibility, and no doubt some of your income, as a leftist podcast.

Lauren Lynch

Also, as a counter argument to the pedophilia of ballet core: you guys should check out Angela trimburs version of ballet core! My bestie was in her “ballet core” recital and it brought me to tears. Trimburs curates a bunch of adult “ballet-core” classes inspired by ballet but more focused on satisfying the dreams of one’s inner child to become a ballerina and to say eff you to the more toxic parts of the ballet world that may have ruined it for many. Tapping into the way ballet felt as a little girl when it was so unserious and made me feel so beautiful. I understand why this could feel infantilizing. As a retired dancer I just found it so beautiful to see adults reconnecting to the transcendence into a certain reckless abandonment that I felt dancing as a little girl.

Camryn

Binchies, can you guys talk about Taylor swift suing that kid for exposing her and other celebs carbon emissions from their private jets?

Lauren Daniels

dad has passed and according to mormon-ology he now has his own planet. not even joking

Lauren Daniels

“snooki-core” we all need to repent

Heather

the weigh down is SO GOOD honestly do an episode just on gwen shamblin i'm begging

Elle Stephenson

Kk question for binchies have they still not mentioned Palestine ???

Madeleine Leddy

for fairycore inspo look up Cicely Mary Barker (who also has a crazy life story: disabled Victorian housebound child, tragedy left and right, kinda super christian so there's def a possible cottagecore rapport in there...)

Ana Monaco

Where are the photos we were promised!!!!!

izzy

Dark academia is nawtttt harmless 😭

JuJuBean

I think the tech bro aesthetic is adjacent to Gorpcore? And I think the Bella hadid aesthetic you were referring to might be norm core? 😂

Emily D

i would love for a deploying the barbz part 2 based on the recent events between nicki and megan thee stallion. pretty please!!!!!

Paige McHatten

I’ve seen mermaid core referred to as “tuna core”

Charlie

there’s a horseshoe with “sexless amoeba style” and “pedohpiliacore” on opposite ends and that selkie dress is starting to circle back towards pedophilia for sure 😭

lily guerin

Girls go on Pinterest it shows u exactly the cores

Kelsie Stahl

I would like to introduce Chessy-core (like from the Parent Trap) it’s just wearing a denim button down

Sierrah Brown

Why did I think Eliza was gonna talk about the Drake dick pic after she mentioned her Drake shirt and said "omg wait I have to send you...".

Ashley Viljoen

I would like to posit that the main difference between cottage core and tradwife core is that there is an inherent queerness to cottage core, specifically sapphicness- cottage core is being able to dress super historical and beautiful and feminine and pretend men don't exist, as opposed to tradwife core which on the surface looks v similar but it's all done for the end of submitting to husbands and popping out husbands. Children and men are inherently not cottagecore- that's why the only cottagecore men you see are cosplaying as hobbits

Isobelolololol

I like saying I’m “frazzled English woman core” because my hair is frizzy and I date losers (much like Bridget Jones)

Wawallama

Office siren is kinda the Gabriette vibe they names get so stupid but I do love it

malaika

**Halle Bailey :(

Kirsten Drehobl

If Ruth Curry could confirm or deny if they are a PhD at a Midwest university… I received a work email with that name and I have to know if it’s from an OG godly wife!!

syd

my pal @Julialucius (on insta, check out her music!!!) is literally Coastal Cowgirl if anyone needs a reference for the vibe….👀

holly
>>129189469

umm idk if ppl rightfully wanting her to be held accountable for being a literal climate criminal and taking 28 mile flights on her private jet is the same as being woman’d lol

holly
>>129189469

furthermore i don’t think the discourse re: her sweeping awards shows and taking the spotlight away from POC is the same as being woman’d either. dismissing valid criticism of a white billionaire as misogyny is so tired IMO

Your Mum

🤲🤲 Soft grunge photos of both of you please

Cassidy Faye

I need bug core to have its moment

Vanja

Are we gonna talk about the fact that ballerina farm literally posted her recent birth on tik tok including a shot of the placenta just hanging out , I feel like that is a detail that should not be glossed over

Hannah

When I was pregnant I got mens shirt sleeve button ups from the thrift store, wore them daily and called them my gabagool shirts. I was tony soprano maxxing ahead of the game

Sam Haimowitz

“cottage core with malicious intent” is so fucking funny

Olivia Brown

Need that ACOTAR review soon babies!!!!

Sam Haimowitz

“GROUPIE CORE?? .. RUPI KAUR???”

Sam Haimowitz
>>129258525

the way I’m literally fucking crying at this I literally went back to listen to it again LMFAOOOOO

Olivia Brown

“Bitch you’re at the beach” 💀💀

Nicole Enlund

Coastal grandma is just New England. All the old ladies here, white pants, nautical stripes, lobstah print everything. Look up barb bush and Kennebunkport!

Rachel Bernstein
>>129189469

not u saying we been knew shes a climate criminal and then proceeding to defend her… i just feel as though her actions are unforgivable and maybe people were right about thinking something was off about her??? because she is killing the environment???

Rachel Bernstein

anyone else feel weird about this episode… a lot of it is just shit talking trends and then claiming they are harmful to women to excuse them shitting on things women enjoy? idk is that just me? definitely nuance because a lot of the trends can be harmful but a lot of them are just girls wanting something cute to identify with?

Sabrina Martin

am triggered by lack of gorpcore representation ZERO STARS

Vanja
>>129237137

Because like all her content the video was incredibly performative, because an influencer posting a birth video feels like it should be a satire and yet it’s just another example of the panopticon culture of mommy bloggers that the binchies made an episode on the other month, because of the crazy beauty standards she’s setting by posting that birth video and then several days later a video of her trying on dresses for a beauty pageant, because it’s interesting to see what the tik tok censors do and don’t let through, and because it was fucking funny - this woman is in the tub giving birth and her multiple toddlers are around her interacting with her, I can’t think of someone I’d less like to have at my birth.

Vanja
>>129274030

I would agree with you if they were shitting on every single trend but there were plenty where they said they liked them / they thought they were harmless. And Eliza did say at one point that they’re not taking issue with any individuals who wear these trends - I think what they’re trying to do is think about the broader context of the trends and understand why they became popular and what that implies for societal expectations of women.

Eli Cole

soo proud to be one of the 15 tboy binchies🫡

holly
>>129189469

nobody is hating nuance, i just don’t agree with you lol. i don’t think what’s happening rn is the same as being woman’d at all

annabelle chapman

recently learned that coquette comes from indigenous peasant wear and barbie pink is mexican pink

annabelle chapman
>>129274030

I think we need to move past the idea that it’s bad to criticize things women like. this is clearly not attacking women from a place of internalized misogyny but pointing out harmful aspects of trends from a feminist perspective.

beep boop

lol not the quick lil Cardigan cover 💃

Oli Chau

This one was a miss. If it’s a casual ep thats fine, but don’t label something a deep dive when clearly very little research was done. Video essayists like Mina Le have much better videos on this kind of topic

melayne dunlap

okay we NEED an episode speaking on taylor swift’s inevitable downfall ✋ especially after the grammy situation

Kaileigh Murphy

part of me loves the “core” trend cause it’s kinda beautiful to romanticize the most monotonous things (aka with cottagecore where u just love making bread)

Alex Tomlinson

Ballet core is so pedophilloic. The way that ballet-core is glamorizing the ballet attire that young girls wear to ballet and not like the actual ballet of it all. Adults don’t really wear the sort of stuff associated with ballet-core to ballet class.

Sabine

I have to recommend Ways of Seeing by John Berger. It’s only 3 short essays and 2 visual essays, and a major theme involves the way that the prominence of both the camera, the reproduction of images, and the pervasive presence of advertising has caused us to only be able to perceive the world around us through the eye of the camera— the way we look, the category we place ourselves into, the “-core” we strive to consume all revolves around advertising and advertising revolves around consumerism. Not to say everything comes back to capitalism, but in the neoliberal era like….. it does. Also good reading on this is Walter Benjamin. I just think that the pervasiveness of micro trends is a result of a culture that completely atomized around “the image” as something that encourages us to consume. Unconsciously, we view everything we do through the eye of the camera, and we shape our entire image/personal aesthetic around that impulse

Elena Gaughan

Eliza do the bangs do it do it, do the bang.

Suzanne Bigelow
>>129340210

i totally agree this one frustrated me. there’s SO much to be said about the issue (their origins, sontag’s “against interp,” “ways of seeing,” and the origins of these things like academia ones) but they just, like…. reviewed the “cores?” idk i just read the title as an actual ep on this :(

Crystal Greenberg

Long time listener, first time commenter. I've listened to the podcast since it came out but I do think ppl with a huge platform should speak up about Palestine. Especially bc there are so many ppl (almost all poc) getting fired and facing enormous repercussions for showing support to Palestine and binchtopia doesn't even take ad deals. There no risk level to them speaking out. Mostly it just makes me cringe to watch young people lucky enough to find an enormous platform and financial success watch the horrors in silence. I unsubscribed from patreon and am gonna stop listening. I know I don't know y'all but I'm icked out

Eva Paramo

just wanna let you guys know that i ended my patreon subscription for literally a few days, saw you guys posted this video from Eliza's story and then immediately started having Binchtopia withdrawals and got my patreon subscription back.😭❤️

Oli Chau
>>129340210

I agree with you! I don’t think it needs to be deep if it’s chatty. It can be a chill overview for sure. But calling it a deep dive makes listeners think it’s one of the research based episodes

mel

The mention of ACOTAR has me hopeful that we’ll get the book review episode!!!!

Geena

Silence is violence. Why won't you speak up about Palestine?

EB
>>129237137

i don’t really see anything wrong with an influencer posting a birth video lol. and how can a literal birth be performative?? yeah you can take issue with the beauty standards, panopticon culture, whatever, but like judging some woman for wanting to document her giving birth (a beautiful and natural process) and for having her children around?? she did not seem bothered by it so i’m not sure why you are!! comes across mean and judgy and miserable tbh

Kayl Ward

If I showed this episode to my 64 year old father he would keel over and die

Ella

My only contribution is that coastal cowgirl is not exclusive to LA!! Don’t forget the Central Coast! That’s where I see the coastal cowgirl “core” embodied the most, and I love it!

Bri

wait i think everyone should listen to the mormon culture report by nymphet alumni if you’re interested in mormonism in today’s culture it’s really interesting

Isabella

I just saw on Reddit that they donated $5000 to Palestinian aid. There must be some reason they’re not actively talking about it but I’m glad to see them doing something

Kelley

I’m one of the fifteen t-boys thanks for the shoutout guys

Maggie Kuhns

I want 90s university / Princess Diana in a sweatshirt core

liz
>>129432352

they’ve been donating thousands of dollars to support palestine and have talked about it several times on their instagram. just because you haven’t heard them talk about it doesn’t mean that they don’t support palestine. some people are more concerned about what others are doing to show support than they do about themselves and what they can do. it’s very very weird and very out of touch with reality. worry more about the actual problem at hand and what you can do to help. criticizing others for not being as public about their support as you’d like them to be is a waste of time and counterproductive

Kristen Wynne

Was listening to this ep while recovering from surgery. Love you binchies 😘

tj
>>129237137

? a baby can’t consent to its life being on camera, to have it begin from the literal moment it is born is horrifying and truman show-esque. super weird thing to be so defensive and rude about, but go off i guess

Alison

How could you forget goblincore 😈😈😈

cicely Hodel

Ok but the hard hat slick back is so good for greasy hair like makes my life so easy

EB
>>129237137

documenting a birth is not at all the same thing as a baby’s “life being on camera” lmao. you can have beef with the fact that she shows her kids in all her videos and i agree that that’s weird as hell! but i just disagree that it’s inherently bad to document yourself giving birth. also i’m literally not being rude lol

Averi

sorry did you guys say joanna kuchta is a friend of the pod?? she’s forever my queen

Averi

the tiny glasses is like office siren // bayonetta-core (source: my brain is rotted😍)

Cecelia Trenticosta Kappel

I was listening to this episode with my teenage daughter and her comment was “When are Millennials going to admit they don’t understand Gen-Z culture?” 😬🫨💀

Hollie Martin

the clean girl aesthetic borders on cultural appropriation. the look was popularized by black and brown woman first. a slicked back bun is a protective style, that’s why it’s not meant for white womens hairlines! it’s so embarrassing and classic that no credit is given.

Alison

Can yall do an ep on industry plants? I’m on the cringe side of TikTok and insta (me and my sister obsessively send them to one another) and there are so many artists and bands with tons of followers who are SOOO BAD. I don’t understand what they are or how they exist and think it would be fun to hear yall yap about them. Thanks xoxoxoox

The Immaculate Witch Kaitlin Reckord

I wish this was more of a researched, source based deep dive rather than an observational, opintion-based deep dive. While it was fun and chatty there is definitely more of a history to be had to all of these aesthetics- many of them have links to both sides of racism and othering. I think that conversation would be really freaking cool!

Lucy Johanneman

Yall have your finger on the pulse w cartoon-core because my friend recently started dating this girl that ALWAYS has the same black beanie on. Even to like… nice dinner dates. And the rest of us say “why does she always wear this beanie. Does she want to look like Louise from bobs burgers? Is that her motive” but maybe she’s an early adopter of cartoon-core. Thank you for correcting my bias.

Lucy Johanneman
>>130259974

There’s actually a whole podcast that does this!! They’re called Nymphet Alumni. I dont listen often but have listened to their Twee episode and it was good

Ray Maxwell

Omg I was also traumatized heavily by YoungLife. TBT to when they played the video reenactment of the crucifixion and then they made u sit outside alone for twenty minutes in like 30 degree weather

Lily

bbw sweet pea rise up