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The Brothers Karamazov - Dostoyevsky Lecture One (Books I-II) (Patreon)

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Today we are discussing the beginning of one of the most profound novels in the history of literature: The Brothers Karamazov by Fyodor Dostoyevsky.

Our discussion covers the first two books of this masterpiece. We are going to meet these compelling characters together and open up a challenging, but incredibly rewarding, dialogue with this great writer.

Timestamps:

  • 0:00 the power of Dostoyevsky
  • 1:41 the opening note from the author
  • 3:00 how Dostoyevsky’s creates characters
  • 4:00 finding yourself in the novel
  • 5:58 answering the unanswerable
  • 6:40 how to dialogue with Dostoyevsky
  • 7:05 why should we read this story?
  • 10:30 on the second unwritten novel
  • 11:28 when does this novel take place?
  • 12:45 ‘since it is written, let it stand’
  • 14:08 the opening of the Book of Genesis
  • 16:00 on man in the image of God
  • 20:00 speaking things into existence
  • 21:10 the beginning of the Gospel of John
  • 22:55 Dostoyevsky’s interpretation of Christianity
  • 25:40 meeting this nice little family
  • 26:22 the power of irony in literature
  • 27:00 is The Brothers Karamazov a comedy?
  • 28:00 meeting Fyodor Pavlovich (and ourselves)
  • 31:00 the danger of playing a role
  • 32:00 what does this father represent?
  • 36:00 on feeling abandoned by God
  • 37:20 does absence point to presence?
  • 39:00 cycles of history & the death of God
  • 40:49 how to meet Dostoyevsky’s characters
  • 42:18 meeting Dimitri Karamazov
  • 47:45 on Alyosha, the hero of our story
  • 50:00 miracles being born from faith
  • 55:00 the incredulity of Apostle Thomas
  • 57:00 on meeting Ivan Karamazov
  • 59:00 what if there is no immortality?
  • 1:01:00 Zossima speaks with Ivan
  • 1:02:30 being grateful for a tormented heart
  • 1:05:00 on the character of Zossima
  • 1:08:00 the lies of Fyodor Pavlovich
  • 1:11:00 ‘above all, do not lie to yourself’
  • 1:16:00 the healing wisdom of Zossima
  • 1:18:00 how to deal with intense grief
  • 1:20:00 how to deal with feeling guilty
  • 1:21:30 Zossima & God’s boundless love
  • 1:23:00 Ivan on the church and state
  • 1:25:00 the farce of Dmitri & Fyodor
  • 1:26:00 how words become reality
  • 1:28:00 next discussion & questions for you

Supplementary Resources:

  • Scripture: I recommend beginning your complementary reading of the Bible with Genesis 1-2, John 1:1-14, John 20:24-29, Luke 15:1-7. We will pair biblical verses throughout, and, for those who want guidance for a deeper engagement with the Bible, we will have a video with my recommended approach. I personally work from this large print KJV.
  • Psychology: You might find Dostoyevsky to be a great avenue into Freud, who revered The Brothers Karamazov as the most magnificent novel ever written, and wrote this fascinating essay on 'Dostoyevsky and Parricide.'
  • Art Appreciation: You might find it useful to spend some time examining and appreciating Caravaggio’s 'The Incredulity of Saint Thomas' whilst mulling over the biblical story to which it gives life.
  • Biography: For those of you reading Joseph Frank's biography, Dostoyevsky: A Writer in His Time, I recommend reading chapter fifty-two ('A New Novel'), which paints a vivid picture of Dostoyevsky's life as he was preparing to write The Brothers Karamazov.

Reading Assignment:

Congratulations on breaching this incredibly challenging novel. The next discussion will focus on books three to four. This takes us up to page 212 in the Pevear and Volokhonsky.

Questions to Consider:

1) What are your impressions of the beginning of the story?

2) Who is your favourite character so far? And why?

3) Does The Brothers Karamazov pose any unique challenges?

If this is your first reading of The Brothers Karamazov, I would love to know how the story is meeting your expectations. If this is a reread for you, what is it like returning to the story? And please do share with us your favourite passage from the first two books.

Happy reading, everybody!

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Cindy

Dostojevsky’s Crime and Punishment was a worthwhile read for me here last year, so I was looking forward to another one of his books. Especially since the themes of the book seem to be resonating with me at this time in my life. How do I live my life? Where can I find meaning? What is the role of religion? Do we need it? What exactly is it then that we need from religion? So I started this book with these questions already on my mind. I’m discovering a lot of value in the way he writes, in the dialogues. That is definitely the way I personally prefer it. Not the lecturing kind. But an open and nuanced dialogue, attacking these questions from multiple perspectives.
 In my annotations I am keeping track of the different life purposes the characters seem to have, but I am also trying to discern if there is a hierarchy in them, if one is better than the other. Dostojevsky does seem to be giving us some hints, but it really feels like a shared search for this ultimate meaning. I am following him along on his journey in wrestling with these themes. So far my notes do show that he keeps reminding us of the complexity of life, nothing is simple, the ambiguity of everything and everyone. You need to find a balance, which resonates pretty nicely with the image I have of myself as a tightrope walker in this world. The motif of forgetting someone is pretty strong in these first two books, so I am keeping track of that. Might be a tip to whatever path you end up choosing, make sure it’s one that values not only yourself but also the other. The ideal so far seems to be to make sure you know yourself. And not in the way Fjodor says ‘that’s just who I am’, but a deeper self-knowledge, of your soul. Most of the problems in the world arise from people who live a life of a persona, are playing a role, are not authentic. I’ve been reading some of Jung’s work and see the value in his idea of the individuation process, of integrating your shadow, and trying to make your unconscious conscious, so they don’t control you and your life (and you’ll call that fate). His ideas really match with what Dostojevksy is saying. Fjodor seems to be living this persona-life, using others as a mirror and let them determine who he is (‘the looking glass self’). His life purpose is reflected most in my personal environment, the hedonistic lifestyle, thinking that we just have to enjoy ourselves while we can (since there is nothing left after we die). Pleasure as number one focus. For me personally though Ivan and Alyosha resonate. I see a little bit of myself in them. The rational side, trying to find explanations for everything, wanting to understand. But also Alyosha’s need to find a path to the light, which I don’t see in Ivan (so far). I want to understand but I also want to cling onto my optimism, and not despair. Believe in the power of unconditional (active) love and how that can reach the souls of others which seem to be buried deep inside them (because their personas have grown so strong). I do have a list of questions in my notes at the moment, which I’m hoping will be addressed some more in this book: - What is the ultimate path or purpose? I suspect his conclusion will be the religious path, but at least I get the sense that he is definitely already making a distinction between the fanatics who judge others and have a very black/white view of the world and the right way to be religious (openminded, non-judgemental and with the focus on giving unconditional love and trying to bring more light in the world). - Do we really need religion for that? And if so then what is it exactly in religion that we can’t do without? Community? Guidelines? The belief in a higher power that will judge our souls in the afterlife? - How do we close the gap between science and religion, our reason and emotion? We know too much to just believe, so we need to find something more to hold onto, something our intellect also accepts. ps. I'm reading this is a Dutch translation, so the names might be a little different how I am mentioning them here ps. ps. I am aware I have some catching up to do, but I am going to try and add my thoughts here anyway, because I feel like it really helps me to try and organise my thoughts a little before I read on... I always really appreciate you all taking the time to add your thoughts here as they help me out a lot and I enjoy reading through them, so I just want to try and do the same

Michelle Marcoux
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Hi, Cindy! It looks like we are both making our way in this one at about the same time and pace. I love that you mentioned the image of a tightrope walker, I feel that same way and it very much fits my experience with Dostoevsky and The Brothers Karamazov right now. It is like one scene or character pushes me to the point where I feel like I am going to fall to one side, but then the next character or scene pushes me back to the opposite side as I grasp for my old comfort zone. All the while I picture Dostoevsky at the far end of the rope, slowly encouraging me to keep moving forward and like he somehow holds in his mind the key and footing that will get us there. I am still struggling to organize my thoughts while reading this book, and I seem to have that same challenge with some of Pushkin and Gogol’s works that I have been trying lately too, but I am hoping that it will all come together eventually. Until then, I know that I am a very slow reader when it comes to Russian literature so far and that I need time to wrestle with the ideas in the novel as I make my way through it. That usually means I have a little Dostoevsky “floor picnic” going when I am reading – surrounded by the novel, the Frank biography, the Bible, a few works from Shakespeare, notebooks, massive amounts of sticky tabs to flag pages, and equally massive amounts of coffee or tea. Looking forward to more of your thoughts as our TBK journey continues 😊

Leah

I started slow reading Brother Karamazov a couple weeks ago - 1 chapter per day. Its my first time reading it and I have been loving it from the start. My absolute favorite is Alyosha and I love Zossima's wisdom. Alyosha and his family reminds me a bit of my childhood as my family was quite chaotic and vicious at times and I was the youngest of three and just felt a bit helpless and just wanted my family be peaceful and kind to eachother. Dostoevsky's writing is very engaging and the slow read i think gives it the time it deserves. I dont want to say anything negative, but I can't help but wish Dostoevsky wrote female characters with depth. Its just something that I crave. It also feel very good to return to Dostyoevsky after 7 years. I read C&P when I was in college because I very randomly (or more rather with my intuition) picked it up at a used bookstore back in a time when I didnt even ever read fiction books. It had a very profound impact on me at just the right time and I hadn't returned to him since.