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[YT Edit] King Kong (1933) (Patreon)

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Hey guys! Here is the YT edit for King Kong, which will premiere shortly!

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Joel Cagle

You have to understand that in 1933 this was terrifying! As corny as we think the effects are, people of the day had never seen anything like this.

Johnny Salinas

Such a classic, I hope you give the Jessica Lange, Jeff Bridges one a chance. 😊

JayPeaBee

The stop motion effects in this film is world class given the tools of the day. We can only imagine what that talent would achieve with the tools we have today.

2-Can

Kong. King Kong.

D4RK

This was great, looking forward to a reaction of the Peter Jackson version that still holds up well to this day.

Maria Torres

Here's a fun, rather charming short from TCM: Fay Wray talking to/of King Kong. The tone of this sweet short is exemplified in her saying "Sometimes people ask if I don't get tired talking about King Kong. I say I don't get tired because I have good energy." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f76HELC8Wbk

Maria Torres

Fay Wray recorded a whole bunch of screams. She was very good at making screams believable yet "listenable". Selections of these screams have been used for decades. If you ever watch "Murder by Death", made in 1976, you will hear one!

Maria Torres

Kong was basically the brain child of producer/director Merion Cooper, who was kind of like Denham. The effects, as Jaypea and Joel tell you, were state of the art; and they inspired Ray Harryhausen, who would be the stop motion master for decades.

TeenTyrant

You need to watch the 76 Kong, then the Peter Jackson one. They all show Kong differently, more human and more monster in different ways for different reasons. Then watch the Monsterverse to see him and Godzilla throw down.

Maria Torres

As a New Yorker (well, a Brooklynite), one of my favorite lines is when a woman is told the show is something like a big ape, she shoots back: "Ain't we got enough of them in New York?"

Maria Torres

Jack is a nickname for John.

Maria Torres

Notice this was before the Empire State Building got its antenna. Off to the right, you can see the Chrysler Building, which, at the time, was in competition as the world's tallest building.

Maria Torres

When you think about it for a bit, though, Ann was in trouble, for sure, but she wasn't a coward, and she even deliberately tore the bracelet off one of her kidnappers: she was thinking. She's empathetic with Charlie, and can joke around with Driscoll. She doesn't get too much chance to show too many sides of her character, but there's more to her than you might realize.

William Brownlee

As people have said, this was stop motion. You had a model, take a frame of film, move the model a tiny bit, take another frame. Put 24 frames together and you had 1 second of film. Hard work, but this was high tech. Very good for 1933.

Maria Torres

One more note (sorry!). Cooper produced and directed a second movie, :The Most Dangerous Game", at pretty much the same time as "Kong", using the same outdoor set and some of the cast, including Noble Johnson (the Tribal Chief), Joel McCrea (Driscoll), Fay Wray, and Robert Armstrong (Denham). Fay Wray has her natural dark hair in this one.

Jackson Harper

So happy you’re watching this. When I was like 10 or 11, I had a bunch of friends at my house for a birthday sleepover and I tried to show them this movie, but none of them cared and they just did other things while I watched it. Later in life I found out that other people actually do love this movie, and that it’s not weird to just want to watch a movie on your birthday.

Duncan Carlton

Now that you watched this you need to watch Peter Jackson’s King Kong. Same director from lord of the rings

Chris Thom

Fun premiere. Had never seen this until tonight. Charming special effects. Way more gruesome than I was expecting.

Chris Thom
>>147769403

Bet she would be a big hit at conventions. Not sure if those were a thing back in the day.

Lawrance Bernabo

Fay Wray does not get enough credit. But compare when Denham makes her scream when she is pretending, she can see something and then the scream she gives when she actually sees Kong. That's a great scream.

Chris Baldwin

I would love to see my favorite "Creature" film. It's the film "THEM!". It was released in 1954. A period known as the "Atomic Age". Where radiation would mutate all manner of creature's. But, "Them" was about giant creatures. It has a wonderful cast. Like James Arness who played Matt Dillon from TV's "Gunsmoke". It also starred Edmund Gwenn, who won an Academy Award for him in "Miracle On 34th Street" as Santa Claus the previous year. Some other's are James Whitmore and Fess Parker Maybe on a future poll!!! LOL.

Jay505

Yeah, this movie stinks... pretty much anything from 1955 and below. Yeah, unless your a cinematograper or someone born before 2001 and still calling movies "cinema" or even "film".... yeah this movie sucks... 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

Donald Fleming
>>147771954

What some people nowadays don't know about the top of the Empire State Building is that its iconic spire was intended as a mooring station for airships & zeppelins like the Hindenburg (the thing that Kong held onto during the airplane attack is the mooring mast where the airships would dock), and passengers would either board or disembark via a gangplank. However, the idea was deemed too impractical due to high winds at the top of the building & eventually abandoned, even though one airship did manage to dock there for only 3 minutes (the only time an airship would dock there).

Donald Fleming

Kong was the first giant movie monster, but not the first Hollywood movie monster. That honor goes to Bela Legosi's Dracula in 1931.

Clarence Newman
>>147786858

Not sure Dracula qualifies as a monster, Donald. That term is usually applied to huge, mutant animals or creatures. Dracula was just a pasty-faced Penn & Teller wannabe in need of some urgent dentistry. You and I could have rendered him completely harmless by filing down his fangs. Also! Bela's scary factor is totally eclipsed by Max Schreck in Nosferatu (1922). THAT guy was scary as all fricker-frick.

Clarence Newman
>>147782965

I'm even older than that, Jay. When I went to the cinema as a kid, we used to call it "the pictures".

Clarence Newman
>>147781642

I loved "Them!" when I was a kid. When you're that age, you don't see the wires or the zip up the back of the monster suit. All you see is a scary mutant thing that might well exist and could bust through your patio windows at any moment.

Happy Hanukkah

Finally, Beauty watches the Beast! :-) 20:00 Simplifying, this movie came out just before the Hays Code* (1934). Despite the common misconception, movies before that could be quite lurid. (Otherwise there would have been no need for a Code, duh!) * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hays_Code

Maria Torres
>>147769403

I don't think there were, really, and it's kind of a shame: she sounds like very cool company!

bgb1975

Hello Cassie (and other club members) - new member here! Can you (or anyone else) tell me if you have seen: "Hoosiers", "Time Bandits", "It's A Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World" and/or "The Great Race"?

rudolph behrmann

Included with the 2005 DVD release of 1933's "Kong," you can find a documentary narrated by Peter Jackson, where he talks about "Kong" being what motivated him to take up filmmaking as his metiér. Jackson also includes, as part of the documentary, his stop-motion rendition of the lost "spider pit" sequence (where Kong throws the log bridge into the crevasse, killing several men, and which was rightfully cut from the film because it detracted from the story). It's spectacularly gruesome.

Clarence Newman
>>147806148

bgb! Welcome! And for a new member, those are some pretty good suggestions right out of the blocks. You might fit in here! It's a Mad, Mad, Mad World and The Great Race are both epic comedies. Cassie will love them.

Carol Rocha

Was great!! Been a long time!

Gary Granata

Why did they put a door in the wall?

Just Plain Bob
>>147786858

Dracula ABSOLUTELY qualifies as a monster. Hence his inclusion as a “Universal Classic Monster.” As for how easy he’d be to defeat, he was able to shape shift into a large wolf, bat (of course), mist and a myriad of other things. In fact, at night, he was virtually indestructible. He is an agent of Satan (dropped in most recent films) and able to convert others to his nefarious cause. Those that die from his bite have their souls doomed to hell and become his perpetual slaves. He’s able to exert mind control over humans. He can command animals, such as rats, wolves, bats and owls. He can also manipulate the weather. Among his more mundane powers were super strength (said to be twenty times the strength of a man), speed and agility. To paraphrase Darth Vader when he encounters Luke in “The Return of the Jedi”: Indeed he is powerful. Oh, and contrary to modern depictions, sunlight DOES NOT kill him. It merely diminishes his powers (for instance, he cannot shape shift during daylight hours).

Just Plain Bob
>>147781642

“Them!” was an instrumental movie in getting me to really appreciate the sci-fi/horror films of the 50s. I had always enjoyed the Universal monsters but didn’t really appreciate other older horror and sci-fi. I rented it at Blockbuster more than 30 years ago (this was before they dropped anything that wasn’t a recent - at the time - Hollywood “blockbuster”). It was at that store that I also rented and viewed Dario Argento’s classic “Suspiria” for the first time, kicking off my love affair with Italian horror. But that’s a story for another time (I’m futilely hoping that Cassie makes at least a casual foray into Italian horror and gialli at some point). After “Them!”, I fell in love with “The Thing from Another World” (also starring Arness, although as the monster), “Invasion of the Body Snatchers”, even the original “The Fly” (which I found very entertaining but not scary). To this day, “Them!” is one of my favorite films. We can only hope that Cassie reacts to it and more classic horror in the coming months/years.

Donald Fleming

Robert Armstrong would do two more 'big ape' movies after this one; reprising his Carl Denham role in 'Son of Kong', which came out a mere 9 months after 'King Kong', and then playing a different Carl Denham-like character in 'Mighty Joe Young', which came out in 1949, and helped launch the career of an up-&-coming special effects artist by the name of Ray Harryhausen.

Mannygogou

It weren't the planes that done it.

Happy Hanukkah
>>147770001

"After completing her scenes, Fay Wray spent a day in the sound studio recording a series of screams she dubbed her 'Aria of the Agonies.'" [IMDb]

Maria Torres
>>147820226

He's not as well known as he could be: that voice of his always makes me smile. I love him in a movie starring James Cagney, "G Men": Armstrong and Cagney could dish it out and take it, and metaphorically help each other up. "G Men" is kind of a B movie, but it's a good one.

Clarence Newman
>>147786858

Ah, so this Dracula fellow has some skills after all. I may have to defer. I still say a real monster needs to be over 7 feet, though. Frankenstein only qualifies because of his huge forehead, The Mummy is a scary outpatient and The Wolf Man just needs a haircut. Nosferatu qualifies as a monster, but they brought in the ringer of all ringers to play him. I'm not entirely sure Max Schreck was acting.

Happy Hanukkah
>>147771142

"Merian C. Cooper's first vision for the film was of a giant ape on top of the world's tallest building, fighting airplanes. He worked backward from there to develop the rest of the story." [IMDb] I'm imagining a Ryan George Pitch Meting: Producer: So you have a movie for me? Screenwriter: Yes sir, I do. There's this giant ape on top of the world's tallest building, fighting airplanes! Producer: Wow! Wowowow! Giant apes on top of the world's tallest building, fighting airplanes, are tight! Screenwriter: ... Producer: ... Screenwriter: ... Producer: ... Screenwriter: ... Producer: And? Screenwriter: And what? Producer: What else happens? Screenwriter: That's all I have. (Fortunately Producer Guy got all the way off Screenwriter Guy's back about this, and filming this sequence proved to be super easy, barely an inconvenience.) [ADDED: This was meant as a reply to Maria's immediately preceding comment. Whoopsie!]

bgb1975
>>147820226

Another good Cagney one: "Angels With Dirty Faces" Bogart is in this one, too. I'd love to see PiB's reaction to that one. "Mr. Roberts" is another solid Cagney film.

Maria Torres
>>147820226

Oh, yes! That's one of the best ones, and it ends in a way that makes fo a great argument about intention. "Mr. Roberts", yes, for sure! Late Cagney having a ball; Late William Powell (this movie was my intro to him, and I fell in love with his casual class immediately); young Jack Lemmon, just starting out, and of course, Henry Fonda! Good script, from a good play. I understand John Ford (director) and Fonda didn't hit it off. Spoiler: This movie gave our family one of our many movie quotes to aim at each other: "AAAAllll right. Whoooo did it? Whooooooo did iT?"

Happy Hanukkah
>>147772686

This production of The Most Dangerous Game was the first adaptation of the very famous short story of the same name. I shall once again request a reaction to Hard Target (1993), inspired by the same plot. I happen to know Cassie has a DVD of this movie. :-)

bgb1975
>>147820226

A question for the ages. Was he or wasn't he? Great movie quote! ;D

Chris Baldwin
>>147782965

Jay, I can tell you're one our new age sarcastic prick's that are so common in you young punk's born after 2001. Have a GREAT DAY PUNK!!!! Sincerely yours...

Mannygogou
>>147821921

Hahahaha 😄 wait... no... maybe... t'was beauty... you know... maybe... killed the beast ?

Mannygogou
>>147821921

lol "the showman" was being poetic. What he's saying is..., why does Kong fight? Why does he struggle? In the jungle he took possession of Ann and he protected her from dangers. He fought long toothed monsters.

Mannygogou
>>147821921

In the city, Kong was chained and cowed, put on display for paying customers. Then he saw Ann again and he thought she was in danger. Why did he break his chains?, why did he take Ann? He does not take her because she's lunch. Maybe we can't understand what goes on in the mind of a king, or a god but we can see he took Ann and is protecting her from the monsters of the city. He continuously puts himself in danger. He would have died sooner or later, sure. But his pursuit of beauty accelerated his own demise.

Mannygogou
>>147821921

They took a golden haired woman to offer her as bride to Kong. Behind those walls he was king, he was a god. In pursuit of his obsession, his bride, he passed through that gate and he pursued them to the edge of the island where he was sedated and taken. His mistake was chasing beauty and it ultimately killed him.

Clarence Newman
>>147815992

This is an interesting point actually. There had to be a door so they could take their sacrifices through and tie them to the altar. But why did they have to make one big enough for the monster to get through?

Gary Granata
>>147815992

They were lucky Kong was"t too bright. The wall ended at the shore line. Kong could have easily gone around it. But then there would be no movie!

bgb1975
>>147786858

Gotta go with "Abbott and Costello Meet Frankenstein". Three of the classic monsters all in one movie!

Mannygogou
>>147821921

Oh, we can do a remake as a romance. Young boy from the country meets a girl. He chases her into the city where he gets caught up in the underworld of crime. With a few action sequences with betrayal and tragedy at each turn, he eventually dies from misadventure. His friends back at home talk about how the city corrupted and killed him. His scarred and stoic father looking out the window spoke quietly. "No... T'was beauty killed Tom," bowing his head. Family around him whispered, he never talks. They dismiss what he said as ramblings of a sad man. We shall call this movie Chasing Beauty 🤨

Silver Machine
>>147820226

I’m surprised to hear that Fonda & Ford had difficulty working together since they had already collaborated on so many films prior to Mr. Roberts. (The Grapes of Wrath, Young Mr. Lincoln, Drums Along the Mohawk, My Darling Clementine, etc.)

Happy Hanukkah
>>147821921

"'twas beauty that dropped the ape 100 stories. " Ha ha ha. So many stories, Chris. :-) :-P So, when will we vote to have Cassie watch The Room? :-P

Happy Hanukkah
>>147820226

"John Ford and Henry Fonda had a falling out that led to Ford's punching Fonda in the mouth.* It ended their 16-year personal friendship and 8-film professional relationship, even though Ford apologized to Fonda afterward. Fonda only appeared in one more Ford film after that, How the West Was Won (1962), in a segment not directed by Ford." [IMDb] Perhaps not unrelated, "John Ford was drinking more heavily than usual, causing him to behave erratically." [ibid] * Maria, it seems like they definitely did "hit it off"! :-)

Chris Thom
>>147821921

Perfect Oscar Bait. Calling Best Cinematography right now. Thomas Newman will do the score. And he will lose. Again.

Chris Thom
>>147806963

Curious if she would like that ghost one he did before LOTR. Blanking on what it was called. I think Matthew Broderick was in it. Reminds me of the cave scene toward the end of Return of the King.

Mike LL
>>147806963

The Frighteners with Michael J. Fox. She's been wanting to do that one for several years now, and it should be a must this October with Carly!

Joe Jupiter

I'm glad you liked this one, Cassie. It's one of the all-time great adventure stories. Please do check out Peter Jackson's version, too. I'd love to see your response to it.