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Well this made me feel better and worse at the same time. I miiiiissss him! I did love the last conversation they had, that helped me process. I’m seeing now that in only 7 episodes we’re going to get a cliff hanger... one more to go!

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The Last of Us (S2:E6) - Full Reaction - Popcorn In Bed

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fromage

Best episode of the season!

Wes

Heartbreaking!!!

Brian McGovern

I was curious how wrecked you might get with this, not that I take pleasure in that. I am no sadist. Hope things are getting better with your son.

Shad Kanyak

This was an interesting episode. For most of it, they built it up that I was really starting to hate Ellie only for them to bring it all together at the end.

Robert da Spruce

It did make me feel a little better to know they had that last conversation. Thinking that so many things were left unsaid made Joel’s death even more tragic in episode two I’m glad they talked and the truth came out. A very beautiful, if bittersweet episode! 🥹 Looking forward to watching your reaction tonight! Hope your son is doing better Cassie

Terry Yelmene

Since I saw this episode on Sunday, I've been waiting for this react!

Brian Smith

did you see the watch his dad was wearing

Chris Thom

These are almost over right?

Maisie

I swear I have literally been grieving this fictional character for a month. This season has wrecked me.

Cole Jennett

I didn’t, but I’m guessing I know what you mean. I like that. Tony Dalton was great in that scene.

Brian Smith

yeah the same one that joel wore

Anthony K.

This was a great episode, and great reaction as always, Cassie! I think this is the most important episode of the season, because it shows that Ellie knew/suspected the whole time that Joel lied to her, and at the end, while she didn’t fully forgive him (I’ll get back to that in a bit), she understood why he did what he did (“because I love you”). What I find the most tragic is that Ellie never got to make her own choices. She never got to choose whether she wanted to sacrifice her life to make the cure, Joel took that choice away from her. I know there are a ton of people that will either say things like “the cure might not have worked” or “the world is too far gone even if the cure did work,” but to Ellie, none of that mattered. But when Ellie said that she’d like to try to forgive Joel, that choice was taken from her by Abby. I don’t know. There’s something sad about when people can’t make their own choices, and I think the fact that the two biggest choices of Ellie’s life were taken from her makes her a very tragic character. I know I said it before, but fantastic reaction! One more episode this season!

K, Zachary

I have played the game even part 2 all the way to the end. I know what happens. We were waiting for you to watch this episode. I think everyone was. We both ranked this episode a 9 on IMDB initially and we were discussing it and we both pushed to a 10. I have never given a 10 to any episode on this show The Sopranos, Dexter, GOT. Got 10s However shows like Californication, Tudors, True Blood, didn't. We both never made to the end we were both balling. My girl said to me afterwards. I get it why she was so violent trying to find Abby. She will watch your reaction when she gets home tonight. But given what you said and she said while watching it. I think you to are on the same page. Great reaction as always Cassie I know you have a huge weekend planned. With Carly getting married . We are going to see the new MI this weekend. If we don't see you again before the wedding. A huge thanks to everyone at PIB from Carly congratulations you deserve all the happiness in the world. You know Elizabeth Barrett Browning has an excellent poem I said it to my girl once and she said save that for our wedding. Actually I prefer Somewhere I Never Traveled by E. Cummings great poem. Moving on To to the editor you do an excellent job. To Ben for helping behind the scenes and being very supportive of Cassie. Thank you so much. To the moderators you guys are top dogs. You do a fantastic job for just being there for people. Salt of the earth you guys are. A huge thank you to everyone. Have a fantastic weekend.

Clay F

+1 for Californication

Clay F

You make good points about Ellie not getting to make her own choices. However, the frontal lobes (for rational thought) of the brain are way underdeveloped at 14. I don't think a kid at 14 is equipped to make a decision about life and death. That's what parents are for. But then the parent is going to overcompensate in favor of the life of their kid

Cody Nelson

I understand emotionally where you're coming from when you say the show didn't have to kill Joel. it's one of the most painful deaths of a fictional character I've ever seen. However, the fact of the matter is that, love it or hate it, Joel's death is *the* catalyst for the story of the Last of Us Part 2 game. It's the very foundation of the game's story that Neil Druckmann and company wrote for it. To change that for the show would be to make a completely different story altogether, to the point where it would have just been fan fiction. There was no way on earth Craig Mazen (who is a huge fan of the games) was ever going to do that. I understand how heartbreaking it is though and how it won't resonate with everyone, but at the end of the day (as George RR Martin is fond of saying) art is not a democracy.

Maisie

I would argue that Joel gave her *back* the choice to die--the show seems to suggest the Fireflies gave her no choice at all. Whatever happens going forward, whether Ellie chooses to die for a cure or lives happily ever after with Dina and the baby, or something else, Joel made possible in that hospital. I wouldn't be at all surprised if the doctors were about to kill her--and the only hope of a cure--without running any other tests or experiments, and Joel actually saved *the* world as well his world.

Clay F

You made the good observation that one appreciates everything in an appocalypse. Also, the evolution of Joel from she is product (payload) to "I love you." At the beginning of the episode with Joel as a kid, I saw so much of the old Joel in that kid Joel. "What's so striking about this episode is how it emphasizes how fully realized a character Joel is; not just a survivor, not just a parent, but a whole person." I am curious what the cliffhanger will be next episode. Looking forward to Game of Thrones.

Alex Gorell

Joel needed to die in order to tell the story of the game. Without it the show wouldn’t work.

Clay F

I agree with you but a different artist starting with S2 could have completely abandoned the source material -- made a completely different story -- totally rewritten. Joel lives. No need for a catalyst of Joel's death. I think Cassie would have been ok with that -- more than a radical departure to the point of no relation to the source materal. The idea would be to use S1 but then go brand new after that, so that Joel lives. Yet, I don't think Pedro would have been available. Thus, unfortunately for Cassie and others, Joel had to go.

Ib-René Jørgensen

Wonderful episode and true to the game. The song he plays for her birthday is Future Days by Pearl Jam.

Clay F

S2 and S3 could have been a completely new story totally unrelated to the game, i.e., S2 and S3 do not tell the story of the game but instead tell a newly-written story. Yet, I know that would never happen for several reasons.

Richard Maurer

Hate to say actually - but actually it was the Fireflies who never gave her a choice. They obviously never told her they were going to kill her (or Joel wouldn’t have been able to lie to her about it) and they didn’t let her have a choice in the matter. That’s the reason I think Joel did the right thing. While he shouldn’t have lied to her about it he did save her from being murdered. And that’s what it was, murder, no matter how well intentioned they believed themselves to be.

Cole Jennett

Totally agree. Sorry Cassie, but I believe he’s right.

Cole Jennett

Pedro also said in an interview that he was only taking the role if they kept it the same as the game

Cole Jennett

@Clay but you saw when she was 19 that she would have made that choice too. If she’s old enough to vote…

Cody Nelson

I mean, sure they *could* have told a completely different story but that’s the rub isn’t it? Craig Mazin wanted to tell the story of the last of us part 2. He didn’t want to do fanfiction.

Eric Miller

Kneel Duckman will remember this.

Uncle Phoenix

Joel reminds me of an old greek proverb, “A society grows great when old men plant trees whose shade they know they shall never sit in.”

Gray

Great ep loved the trip to the museum in the game and they translated it to tv so well, you'd better thoroughly read the instructions on that new watch you don't want it talking full volume during the wedding vows haha

Canadianant

I've been waiting for this reaction. I'm glad we got some closure of sorts. It doesn't make Joel's death easier but at least there was some reconciliation between Joel and Ellie that we hadn't previously seen. That porch scene was powerful, in an episode of incredible scenes. Some great acting all around with Pedro really delivering and some strong work from Bella as well. Heck even Joey pants was fantastic as Eugene.

TechJJ

In a podcast interview with Neil Druckman, he said there was this battle of "business vs. creative". Many said why not make/pay more $$$ to extend Joel. But he said HBO was firm in paying to tell the story of the game, and therefore siding with the Creatives.

TechJJ

First of all, if Ellie is given the choice then there would be no controversy and debate. Second, it's obvious she wants to as that's exactly her story arc in game Part 1/Season 1. With the deaths of the people she cared for, her survival guilt got heavier and her determination was evident to get to the Fireflies research facility - from S1E6 after death of Henry/Sam and her trying to tell Joel this before Joel cut her off at the end of S1E9. Third, this is post apocalyptic and therefore non-civilized world. No such thing as human rights by law. It's whoever has more fire power. Even in our current "civilized" world, more than half of population can be involuntarily hurt or killed without due process. Even the country with the most inspired democracy has the individual right to due process being eroded.

Rod Reavern

This episode might have redeemed Season 2 for me. I 100% agree with Cassie that Joel didn't need to be killed off — I will NEVER agree with that narrative choice and the unforgivable betrayal of the original characters — but at least this episode wasn't a character assassination of Joel, like the episodes that preceded it. It needs to be said that the last scene with Joel and Ellie played out differently than in the game; this episode combined two pivotal scenes into one, which worked in this episode... but might deprive a future scene of its emotional impact. And since they changed and compressed things to give that scene more emotional drama, it's so disappointing that they changed Ellie famous lines: "I was supposed to die in that hospital. My life would’ve f^cking mattered. But you took that from me." Unnecessarily ADDING "You took that from everyone," to demonize Joel and blame him for depriving the world of the cure. I appreciate that Cassie recognized the cure wasn't guaranteed -- it was a long shot at best. And infeasible given the Fireflies apparently only had a single doctor and their numbers had dwindled to under 30 people: The 18 soldiers (including Maureen) and 1 doctor that Joel killed, the 2 nurses he let escape, and Abby and her 4 goons; that's 26 people. Consider that it took tens of thousands of doctors and scientists, and every government and private sector resource, to create the COVID-19 vaccines. Neil Druckman wants us to believe that one quack doctor would've successfully made a cure from killing Ellie, the Fireflies had the capability to mass produce it, and Maureen would've shared it freely with everyone on Earth. NO, I don't believe that for a second. I don't care that it's Neil Druckman's story, so he can say whatever he wants; that doesn't make it good writing. By that logic, Druckman could've made Ellie the next messiah and given her the ability to cure people with her magical touch. Would the Neil Druckman fanboys have zealously supported that alternate version? BTW Druckman had originally kept the viability of the cure ambiguous, even after TLOU2 game was released in 2020. Only recently, during interviews for Season 2, did he confirm that Abby's father would have been successful in making the cure from Ellie. I believe that's because Druckman and the other show writers deliberately demonized Joel to "justify" Abby killing him to avenge her dead doctor daddy. If they were going to make a change to Ellie's line, it should've been Joel telling Ellie that her life mattered to him, and her purpose wasn't to sacrifice herself to cure everyone, rather the two of them to become the family they lost. My takeaway from this episode was that the problem with Season 2 has been Ellie's mischaracterization as an adult. The early flashbacks showed that Joel and Ellie's surrogate father-daughter relationship didn't sour immediately after he lied to her at the end of the first season. They were happy and had a good relationship up until her 17th birthday, when everything seemed to unravel. Joel was portrayed as the greatest dad in the world for his amazing gifts for Ellie's 15th and 16th birthdays, and Ellie was wonderful at those ages. I think this proves that it's the writing and direction of 19-year-old Ellie that is the problem. They made Ellie unlikeably angry and insufferably arrogant by choice. It's not Ellie's character or Bella Ramsy's performance, because she was great in the first half of this episode. I also thought it was structurally flawed to skip past Ellie's 18th birthday and go to 19. At the very least, there should've been an impetus for Ellie to compose the list of questions about Joel's fake story, especially considering that Ellie admitted in Episode 3 that it's not like her to write things down or think before she speaks. Also, Ellie's ultimatum was to give Joel one last chance to tell her the truth, which implied that she asked him about it before, but Joel stuck to his lie. Why not show that in a segment on Ellie's 18th birthday instead of skipping it entirely? I disagree with Joel's decision regarding Eugene, but Ellie's decision to out Joel's well-intended lie to Gail was 100% wrong, because Ellie traumatized Gail even worse than losing her husband. I understand that Ellie was upset because it was confirmation that Joel could look her in the eye and lie to her, but anyone would understand Joel didn't lie to deceive or do harm, rather to spare someone from the harsh truth. The proper way for Ellie to handle it would've been to let Joel lie to Gail, then confront Joel in private afterward. Ellie was being SELFISH by calling out Joel's lie in front of Gail. BTW it was Ellie's FIRST patrol and she wasn't taking it seriously. And it shows how arrogant Ellie was to disagree with how Joel handled Eugene when clearly the patrols had an established protocol for handling people who got infected, to protect everyone in Jackson. Ellie herself told Dina that she knew how ridiculous her immunity claim was and that everyone who gets bitten will say anything to avoid getting put down. So Ellie should've understood that Eugene couldn't be trusted. Also, Eugene's plan was 100% selfish because he wanted Gail to be the last person he saw before he died -- which would've meant shooting him with her there to witness his death. That probably would've been the most traumatic for Gail. And what if Eugene had turned with Gail there to see him? Her last memory of her husband would've been him as an infected zombie trying to kill her! And what about the second person from Jackson, whom the horse was dragging? That person was presumably dead too, but they apparently didn't recover the body -- or the horse -- and no one cared. That's sloppy writing and reminds me of the ending of Episode 2 wherein two of the horses (the dark brown horses that Joel and Ellie were riding) mysteriously disappeared. Or Dina's terrible explanation why she withheld what she knew about Abby and her goons. Overall, this was a good episode and a return to form after 3 sub-par episodes. I'm looking forward to the finale, but I really dislike there are only 7 episodes this season, and they haven't even filmed the other half yet. They knew they were splitting the story from TLOU2 game in half, so WHY didn't they film them all together? Except for episode 2, Ellie and Abby's stories ran in parallel, so it would have been easy to film them during the same production, just like Game of Thrones, which was filmed in multiple locations around the world. The worst part will be the 2-year wait between Season 2 and 3, because they haven't even started filming Season 3 yet.

Clay F

I was shocked when Joel nodded his head yes about the vaccine. I know nothing of the game or any backstory. My thought was some two-bit doctor years into the apocalypse didn't really know if vaccine feasible, and if so, no idea about the efficacy. That would have not been enough for me to let the doctor kill my child. I was team Joel 100%. You really have to suspend disbelief to accept that the vaccine was anything more than a 1 in a million chance.

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2026-11-01 00:00 Joel broke when Sarah died. He crossed lines he probably thought he wasn't capable of crossing. I think when he realized he cared for Ellie as if she was his own daughter he became determined to never lose a daughter again. No. Matter. What. Does what Joel did make him evil. No. But he IS a bad man. He killed innocent people. Even before he met Ellie. I think people see Padro Pascal and confuse his good nature with the character Joel. Just my two cents.
2025-05-22 10:24 Joel broke when Sarah died. He crossed lines he probably thought he wasn't capable of crossing. I think when he realized he cared for Ellie as if she was his own daughter he became determined to never lose a daughter again. No. Matter. What. Does what Joel did make him evil. No. Does it make him a bad man? Yes. He killed innocent people. Even before he met Ellie. I think people see Padro Pascal and confuse his good nature with his character Joel. Just my two cents.

Joel broke when Sarah died. He crossed lines he probably thought he wasn't capable of crossing. I think when he realized he cared for Ellie as if she was his own daughter he became determined to never lose a daughter again. No. Matter. What. Does what Joel did make him evil. No. Does it make him a bad man? Yes. He killed innocent people. Even before he met Ellie. I think people see Padro Pascal and confuse his good nature with his character Joel. Just my two cents.

Thoko

I'm loving the reactions but I wish the little video screen was slightly less blurry. Its really hard to make use of it to re-sync the videos when it is that blurry.

Cole Jennett

I think you are pretty dead on

Cole Jennett

“You” have to suspend disbelief, I don’t. If there’s a chance to save the world, Ellie would have made the choice to sacrifice herself given the chance. She said as much (as a 19 year old, so no pre-frontal cortex talk😉). The fireflies were definitely wrong to have taken the choice away, I can admit.

Cole Jennett

This is why HBO is far superior to Amazon. Amazon destroyed The Wheel of Time by changing way, way too much from the books. I’m giving HBO a pass with Game of Thrones because the source material dried up.

Clay F

Good point about her at 19 wanting to make that choice to die. Yet, I wonder if that conversation with Joel was more anti-Joel than pro-die.

Cole Jennett

I found that totally fit with the “moth” tattoo and what that was said to signify.

Clay F

Interesting. Another good point. In all, I could see her choosing to die.

kaiielle

This reaction made me realize that I'm feeling very mixed about the possibility that the Part II story doesn't get concluded in Season 3, since it was shared earlier this week that Craig Mazin thinks they might *need* a Season 4 to complete this story. I personally believe this story can be concluded in a third season, especially if they choose to make the Season 3 finale the same runtime as the Season 1 premiere which was just under 90 mins long. But I don't know much about adapting stories haha. I'm just curious how stretching this story out over years with forced breaks will affect the non-gamers first-time experience of this story. Yes, some people took a break from playing the game after Joel's death, but that was an elected break, not a forced one. Forcing potentially 2 two-year breaks in the Part II story is not sitting well with me, but that's TV. And hey, maybe they'll do it really well and it won't be that big of a deal in the end. I do firmly believe that Seasons 2-3 (and potentially 4) will be better viewed back-to-back in the future once they're all out and viewers can enjoy the whole story in one-go like most people did when the game released.

Cole Jennett

As someone who has no idea what’s to come, I’m very content with the current pacing. That is what has made this show so good for me. I enjoy being pulled back to a one off episode like they did with Bill & Frank, and the most recent episode. Filling out the narrative has resulted in the two best episodes of the series for me. If they feel they have more in them, I’m currently ok with it, though dragging out seasons has never resulted in anything good in my experience so far.

AdrianF

I've said since erm, day one, that the breaks between seasons wont work. . Maybe they will, but I think hope we'll get a bit more of ADO next week than the obv split point. My parents are in their 70s and not happy about a 2-year wait and they are none the wiser right now! I bought my dad a PS5 to compensate and give hime the story; he ain't happy about that either.

kaiielle

@Cole, I'm glad you're enjoying it. I can tell that Cassie is not sharing the same enthusiasm (she's reacting a lot like how the gamers did at the time and still processing the fact that Joel isn't the main character in this story because he's gone) and that's where my feelings are coming from. Gamers were able to experience the whole story right away. In Cassie's case (and yours tbf), it's either 2027 or possibly now 2029 to fully understand why this story is loved so much. And I just have mixed feelings about that, that's all.

kaiielle

There is definitely some suicidal idealization at play here with regards to Ellie. She has an incredible amount of survivor's guilt and I think that was shown really well throughout this episode, but also episodes prior. It's why she's so willing to walk into buildings where infected are to kill them when she doesn't necessarily "have" to - it's the only way she feels she can help save people, since the vaccine avenue was robbed from her. And Eugene's death affected her in a similar way to Riley, Tess, Sam.. but with the added weight of Joel breaking his promise. She's really tired of seeing people die from Cordyceps when she can get bitten multiple times and be fine. Even if the Fireflies weren't successful in making a viable vaccine, I would like to believe that the doctor and his team would have still learned quite a bit from analyzing Ellie's body and who knows where that info could have taken them. Maybe leave Salt Lake to try and see if there are any other medical groups elsewhere in the country that they just don't know about because of lack of global communication. If they did find other former medical staff, they could combine expertise and what they've learned and work together and maybe then a cure could be possible a few years down the road. It's hard to say and that's truly up to us to guess what the future could hold. It's also just as possible that a vaccine is impossible for this, period. But Ellie's mindset was, if my body could be the cure, then of course I would give myself up to help all of humanity.

Clay F

Yeah, the Joel PROMISE to Ellie to break the rule to take Eugene to Jackson was not good. I am still processing if Joel could have an alternate strategy where he didn't make/break a promise.

Cole Jennett

No I get what you are saying, but as someone who is a huge Game of Thrones fan, and House of the Dragon, I’m totally used to waiting. I love having something to look forward to.😊

Clay F

She said in the intro she didn't have the same "excited butterflies." And while she liked the closure of the final conversation between Joel and Ellie ("Thank you Ellie"), the Joel flashbacks are a double-edged sword for her ("hurt my feelings"). With that said, I think she remains invested -- maybe just not as much. My son liked Part 2 of the game better than Part 1, but that may have more to do with mechanics of the game play than the story. The Last of Us is one of his favorite games all time. I am definitely glad I watched S2, but have not decided if I will watch S3. Probably so -- because of the production quality and my curiosity. Yet, I will have plenty of time to decide. I am wondering about the cliffhanger this Sunday night with S2E7.

Clay F

I need to watch House of Dragon. I watch a few minutes of the first episode when released. Looking forward to her reaction to Game of Thrones -- will be interesting.

kaiielle

@Clay - I can definitely recommend House of the Dragon. It is on the same level as early Game of Thrones to me. So excited for S3!

Chris Thom

I don't know anything about the show but I stumbled on an interview with the writer or showrunner or something and they also said they thought it would take more than three seasons.