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SBNTS Sequel Poll (Patreon)

Published:
2025-09-09 22:59:04
Imported:
2026-06

Poll

SBNTS Sequel Poll

  • Halloween 2 306
  • Scream 2 588
  • Nightmare on Elm Street 2 153
  • Alien 3 232
  • Tremors 2 210
  • 28 Weeks Later 343
  • Poltergeist 2 132
  • Underworld 2 268
  • 10 Cloverfield Lane 552
  • Doctor Sleep 482
  • Blade 2 432
  • Split 405
  • 2025-09-09
  • —2025-09-13
  • 4103 votes
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Content

Scary but not too Scary Sequel Poll!

Am I ready for this? aaahhhh its not even mid September but planning Popcorn in DREAD month and need to see what you guys want to see! A lot of scary movies have sequels eh?

Vote or Die!

jk, omg, sorry!

Cassie

Comments

WestBound

Between Scream 2 and Split for me . Split should be watches regardless of season

Katie Sivak

Scream 2. It is a legitimately great sequel

WestBound

Also we better get The Fly day one of October 😂 been dodging it for years now

Marshall Mitcham

It’s gotta be Scream 2! One Scream movie a year feels like a good rhythm

Oscar Espinoza

Halloween 2 from 1981 is a great continuation of the first film.

Wally

Rumors of sequels after Cameron's "Aliens" have been exaggerated. 😎

Blake Evans

Fingers crossed for 10 Cloverfield Lane and Split for John Goodman and James McAvoys performances alone!

Charles Briggs

Hard to choose there's to many good options if Alien 3 (1992) wins i hope Cassie reacts to the Assembly Cut and not travesty that is the theatrical cut 🤞

crazyivan

Um...none of these, if you're looking for 'not too scary'. Try "Murder By Death"

Joshua Campbell

Blade 2, Halloween 2, Scream 2, Nightmare on Elm Street 2 & 28 Weeks Later. It's totally worth it 👌.

Shad Kanyak

The Elm Street sequels are pretty hit or miss. 2 is a big miss despite its more recent cult following.

Macabre Movie Maniac

Cassie you're gonna have trouble with Doctor Sleep, girl. It's awesome for the die hard Stephen King fans but be careful sweetie. ☺️🤘

Honestly41

Need to see “Unbreakable” before we watch “Split”

Jeff

Good thing Cassie was kidding because I won’t be voting in this poll. I’ve never watched any (not a single one) of the originals so have no idea on the sequels.

Shehab Dawoud

If Doctor Sleep does end up winning, please make sure to watch the director’s cut🙏🏻 it’s a superior version, which ties things together in a better way than the theatrical.

mikethemotormouth

Split is a horror? NO Also thanks for ruining the joke

Stick Figure Studios

Forgive my French, but how in the holy hell did DOCTOR SLEEP make this list? It's a fantastic film, but as both a) a sequel to THE SHINING (a film that horrified her to the degree that shots from it in other movies like TWISTER and READY PLAYER ONE have given her PTSD) and b) a movie that has one particularly nasty scene that is almost certainly going to actually traumatize her (and that is not hyperbole as it actually traumatized me, a fairly desensitized moviegoer) that I think actually violates one of her non-negotiable rules, I can't imagine how it got past her team of vetters. Nevertheless, as a big fan both of the movie and of its director Mike Flanagan (the man responsible for THE HAUNTING OF HILL HOUSE and MIDNIGHT MASS), I am voting for it... along with SCREAM 2, the criminally underrated ALIEN 3 (with the hope that it will be the longer assembly cut that she views), BLADE 2 and finally SPLIT (for the reason that everybody who has seen the movie will know). This is sure to be an entertaining October.

Larry Darrell

Tremors 2. That’s it. Boom. 💥 Anyone feel those Aftershocks. ;-)

Macabre Movie Maniac

The Scream sequels get progressively worse. Hopefully with Stu coming back for number 7 it'll get redemption but I'm not holding my breath.

Brandon Melling

One more suggestion: Psycho 2! It's actually way better than it has any right to be!

Catherine LW

I don’t know any of these. How to vote? 🥴 I wish Train to Busan was a contender.

ROBERT CLARK

I'm guessing you mean Halloween II 1981 as different timelines could count as the next chapter to the 1978 original

Dean Holt

As you watched Blade last year, I really think you should watch Blade 2 this year as imo it’s better that the first movie. Because I’d be shocked if Scream doesn’t win as it’s just a very popular franchise. I like them but I think they are a bit overrated tbh.

Choof

Voted for scream 2, alien 3, doctor sleep and tremors 2. Scream 2 is just lots of fun. Alien 3 is a movie i enjoy more now then when I was a kid. Its the 1st movie from David Fincher who made zodiac, the game, girl with dragon tattoo and though he basically disowns it now you can see lots of his potential already. Doctor Sleep i think is an excellent sequel that I thought would be impossible to nail as a massive fan of The Shining. Made by Mike Flanagan who did haunting of hill house. I think it will a fun full circle from early in your channel for you to reenter the Shining world. Also very meta for spoiler reasons. And as for Tremors 2, its just a blast of a sequel that keeps the comedy and fun and was a gigantic vhs/hbo staple that played a ton in the 90s and since Carly liked the first is also an October movie she can join for

Joel_C

Doctor Sleep is an incredible film! It’s directed by Mike Flanagan who did Haunting of Hill House which you ended up loving. If it wins, I’ll also recommend watching the directors cut, it adds some great character moments.

Larry Darrell

Sequels?? I thought there were only two. :-)

Honestly41

Oh yea you did i forgot! It’s been a while.

MikeLL

That . . . is an excellent suggestion!

William Charles

Lady In White should be given a look. Halloween mystery-fantasy

Choof

You don't know ANY of these? That's astounding

Shad Kanyak

I’m probably in the minority, but I actually prefer the sequels.

Stick Figure Studios

And MIDNIGHT MASS, which is probably the best thing he's ever done. I'd Love to see a reaction to that from Cassie at some point too.

Macabre Movie Maniac

I'd put Halloween (2018) and Halloween Kills on there. That storyline makes way more sense than Halloween 2-the Curse of Michael Myers or the H20 storyline. As good as H20 is the plot of Halloween '18 and Halloween Kills makes more sense

keoma songs

Not trying to be a killjoy or spoiler spoilsport or tattletale but one of the movies listed here would probably not be eligible for the PiB Pick-a-Flick under one of the listed content restrictions. But I know some people wouldn't think it disqualified .... I guess I'll just have i leave it there. One person's "Do not pick a movie featuring ______" is another person's "No spoilers!" Or "It's not that bad". I'll just vote for different candidates.

MikeLL

Bride of Frankenstein (1935) a sequel that is better than the original and it's Not Too Scary! Hey, I'm serious, guys!

Matthew Gibson

"I feel I was denied, critical, need to know information!"

Brogan

Split was great, any movie my parents go out of their way to tell me they enjoyed must be incredible XD

Stick Figure Studios

I voted for most of those too. The only one I didn't was TREMORS 2, choosing to vote for SPLIT and BLADE 2. instead.

Shehab Dawoud

And if Scream 2 ends up winning, I hope you also watch I Know What You Did Last Summer and The Blair Witch Project. Then you'll be able to watch Scary Movie and understand all the references, as it parodies those movies along with others.

Jon Johns

Moderator Cole was just talking up that one!!

William Charles

The Innocents from the early 60s had some scary moments when I was 10-11. Based on Turn of the Screw.

Stick Figure Studios

I Love the film and have heard this about the director's cut, but have yet to see it

JC

Doctor Sleep is hands down the best movie out of all of these

ROBERT CLARK

H40 is my favourite timeline too!

Stick Figure Studios

Well, if she didn't already know, I guess that was a bit of a spoiler. :-(

To Wa

Reccomendations: The Omen (1976) Carrie (1976) Vertigo (195?) The Dead Zone (1983) The Andromeda Strain (1971) The Omega Man (197?) Invasion of the Body Snatchers (1978) The Thing (1951)

Jon Johns

We had a loooooong discussion about it! There was no urging, or promotion, just clear expectations w/o spoilers. She decided to add it, so, she knows what she's getting into!

Shad Kanyak

Second John Goodman’s performance. 10 Cloverfield Lane even being called a sequel is a technicality at best, but damn is the movie so full of suspense.

MGCR

I voted for Dr. Sleep and Split. Because the Shining is one of the only 80s horrors I've ever seen that I thought was anything other than cheesy crap. And Split has James McAvoy who, as far as I'm concerned, can do no wrong yet.

Stick Figure Studios

Yeah, I could see SCREAM 2 winning as well, but I agree about the sequel to BLADE. Much better than the first one.

Shehab Dawoud

Well, go watch it and help me lobby for it!

Macabre Movie Maniac

It makes sense. I love H20 for high school nostalgia but H40 just fits better. I mean in H20 its like, where the hell has Michael been for twenty years? Lol.

Stick Figure Studios

Yes! A surprisingly good sequel to a cinematic masterpiece made decades later.

Chester Beals

Agreed. Has she watched The Shining, tho?

Jon Johns

We prepared her. Lots of discussion, no spoilers, she decided to add it herself. I feel like, if she's prepared? (Not spoiled) She handles it better.

Dean Holt

She mentioned she was going to watch it this year on the live last Saturday. I suspect it could be on the last weekend though as she normally leaves that for one of the big movies

Stick Figure Studios

It is a great sequel and not just because it is itself about sequels.

Catherine LW

Never saw them. I am not a big fan of horror films and especially not sequels.

Wesley White

My votes are for Nightmare 2, Alien 3, Tremors 2, Underworld 2, and Blade 2! I can agree with everyone that Nightmare 2 is the weakest link in the franchise, but what makes it worth watching is of course Robert Englund's performance as Freddy, he steals the show in every scene he's in, and not to mention I somewhat recently met its leading actress lol! Alien 3 is also the weakest link in the franchise also for many reasons, but it equally has many moments that makes it entertaining and has its scary moments and I still enjoy watching it for that reason! Tremors 2 is a worthy sequel and is just as fun as the first one, but definitely not better than the first! Underworld 2 is a fun and action packed sequel that dives deeper into the world of Vampires and Werewolves and of course the ever so beautiful Kate Beckinsale is awesome as ever! And finally Blade 2 is just as good as the first one but a little darker and slightly more violent, also one of its main actors I've also met recently lol! Good picks Cassie, can't wait to see which ones win! I'm still hoping for Van Helsing this Halloween season! Love and support 🥰😇🙏🤗✌️🌹

Stick Figure Studios

I think the third ALIEN film (particularly the extended assembly cut) is a misunderstood masterpiece.

LukeG84

Please let SCREAM 2 win! 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 I have no doubt these characters will grow on Cassie if she just keeps watching.

Jon Johns

Phillip, it's on the schedule, she announced during the livestream

Katie Sivak

Recommendation The Conjuring insidious When A Stranger Calls With Carly The Monster Squad Silver Bullet The Craft

Stick Figure Studios

I'd love to see a MURDER BY DEATH reaction, but it is not a horror film and the horror fans in this community would s**t a brick If it took up a spot in October.

Dan

You have to watch the classic, Gremlins!

Kawaii Leonard

I disagree. Split is factually the better movie. Plus, Doctor Sleep is just not as good as the original.

Andrew Myers

I'd suggest Extra Ordinary (2019), an Irish spooky rom-com horror comedy that sadly isn't all that well known. It's a great little movie, though -- take what you'd expect from an American horror comedy, run it through a quaint cozy Irish filter, and there you go. While I suspect that lesser known movies don't get the clicks, Cassie would definitely enjoy it!

KomoUpNorth

There's a lot of good choices here 👌

Macabre Movie Maniac

The last one was the absolute horrible. All it did was prove horror movies dont work in the city setting. They never have.

Stick Figure Studios

Well, okay then. Should be interesting. I will say, though, that with Cassie pushing her boundaries as much as she has been lately, I would not be surprised if we get a reaction to THE EXORCIST at some point.

Stick Figure Studios

I had the same thought, but nevertheless I would love to see her watch it because it is an excellent movie.

Steve Mercier

There's some actual good ones on here: 28 Weeks Later and Doctor Sleep are both fantastic...but 10 Cloverfield Land is one my all-time favorites. Going with that.

Brian's Dog

Halloween 2 is as good or even exceeds Halloween 1. Give it some love.

Anthony Carlson

Voted for bunch, but if she somehow see Alien 3, she will hate the opening of it. (I think she might not) Like I did the first time I saw it… I would rather have her watch Predator 2.

Macabre Movie Maniac

It's a good little sequel. Again, not as good as the book but few movies are.

Dean Holt

Yeah I just like the design of the reaper vamps tbh and Ron Perlman plays a great character in his. I wouldn’t be two bothered if Scream did win. But my 2nd choice after Blade is Doctor Sleep. Might be an unpopular opinion but I really prefer it to The Shining.

Mike Lemon

That's more Christmas time than Halloween.

LukeG84

I can’t believe I didn’t vote for SPLIT given it’s my pick-a-flick vote each month But the chance for Cassie to watch SCREAM 2 is an opportunity I don’t think will come up again any time soon. It’s now or never I fear.

Gary Brown

Cassie, Halloween 2 is great, so i hope u will watch that and Monster Squad, The Craft, Doctor Sleep, I Know What You did Last Summer, and Silver Bullet. I love the Vote or Die .lol.

JONATHAN REDFERN WILLIAMS

I see Highlander 2 (1991) is not one of the choices; Good decision there, Cassie!... Although maybe one day we could have a Worst Sequels Ever poll; Jaws: The Revenge (1987), Batman and Robin (1997), Neverending Story 3 (1995) or Superman IV (1987). I personally think any one of those abysmal movies would make a great Cassie reaction!

Macabre Movie Maniac

Saw 2 should have been on here. Its one of those rare ones where the sequel was better than the original.

Stick Figure Studios

@Chester: Her SHINING reaction is one of her most notorious.

Stick Figure Studios

I think I know which film you are referring to and I had the same thought.

JohnnyUtah

Oh boy, please not alien 3. It's so awful. I'd swap with monster squad!

Obie Brown

Dr Sleep....Cassie needs to go back to the Overlook hotel. Hehehe

MikeLL

Multiple votes allowed! Go for it!

JohnnyUtah

Monster squad is one of my favorites, how did it not make the cut!

Cathleen Jennings

NO on Doctor Sleep. Just NO, please! Haunted Honeymoon with Gene Wilder please!!!!!! :)

Stick Figure Studios

I love DOCTOR SLEEP. I'm Not prepared to say it's a better movie than THE SHINING because Kubrick is just such a brilliant director, but I love Mike Flanagan and he made an excellent (and surprisingly emotional) sequel to it.

Mike Lemon

"...Sequel Poll!" Sequels? Sequels?!?!?! I said it somewhere else and I'll say it again here, somebody at PIB *needs* to DM Richard and have him make multiple polls for October. Please.

Stick Figure Studios

The two done without Wes Craven are certainly the weakest of the series, but I still don't think they were bad.

Godzilla Jones

Scream 2, great. Doctor Sleep Director's Cut, amazing.

crazyivan

I'd kinda like to see that...but would prefer a concrete block or two. After they get back from the ER, they could find a reactor that lives for horror flicks...but Cassie ain't one of them. Give her what she likes.

Shad Kanyak

Perfect for ‘scary, but not too scary’. One of my favorites when I was a kid.

LukeG84

Too risky.

Gary Brown

I know, right? That's perfect for her.

Stick Figure Studios

Yeah, that opening is harsh but powerful in a way that *POSSIBLE SPOILER* the backstory to LOGAN is.

Andrew Taylor

directors cut is a must, bang on.

Stick Figure Studios

I'm one of those oddballs who considers it a misunderstood masterpiece. I said before that if ALIEN is the horror movie and ALIENS is the action flick, then ALIEN 3 is the art film. It is the most spiritual/existential of the series and consequenty (For me at least) the most moving. I did not like it when I first saw it, but grew more fond of it over the years and especially when I saw the extended assembly cut which is a vastly superior work

Coleton B.

You guys are both awesome, both of these comments made me smile. Meals! Ready to Eat!

Stick Figure Studios

Not too scary for her, but probably not scary enough for the horror buffs in this community.

Larry Darrell

“This one tastes like toilet paper.” Here for ya. Maybe the best straight to video sequel ever. Cassie’d love it.

LukeG84

Don’t get me wrong, Split is the better movie. But given how Cassie reacted to the first Scream movie, she’s definitely not going to watch more unless a poll decides it.

Joe J

+10 for Midnight Mass. She can watch it any month...I hope she will.

Gray

Personally I thought Dr Sleep was poor felt like a parody at times. Not too many great films on this list. 10 cloverfield lane maybe

Choof

Ah gotcha, by know you meant you've never seen them. I thought you meant you had never heard of them which I can't believe

MrKsummer7

Not sure why 10 Cloverfield Lane is on this list. It is not a direct sequel to Cloverfield, nor is it set in the same universe. The film was initially developed as a separate script called The Cellar before being acquired by Paramount and Bad Robot, who decided to turn it into a Cloverfield movie strictly for marketing purposes.

Joe J

You may be the only one Stick, lol.

Geoff S.

Please put the Conjuring up for vote!

JohnnyUtah

After 1 and 2 what a complete letdown to my childhood. Lol

baz0348

Because the poll says sequels it's sequels to not too scary ones she's already watched.

Coleton B.

But if you don't do Alien 3 how do you continue the franchise!? The prequel trilogy, Alien Earth, AVP, Romulus.. There are so many more movies behind 3!

JRCortez

Years go I saw Alien 3, but I recently watched what is called the "Assembly Cut". And I do highly recommend it.

Coleton B.

Baz is right, it's only because it's not a sequel! I really hope it makes it onto the channel some day!

Seymor Butz

Yes.... Go Dr Sleep, one of my favorite sequels.

Larry Darrell

All the Cloverfield films are like that. They are more of an anthology series than direct sequels, but there is a common thru line. Halloween even attempted to go this route with Halloween III, and were unsuccessful, so then returned to the Michael Myers story for the rest.

Grad

I thought Midnight Mass was such a waste of time. Sorry Sticks. It ended just as things were starting to get interesting.

Allen W. McDonnell

Tremors 2, scars mixed with laughs, the very definition of scary, but not toooooo scary!

Coleton B.

This guy knows what he's talking about ^^^

Chris Thom

A bit more like the novels than the Kubrick.

Chris Thom

When a quick homage in Ready Player One wasn't enough.

Chuck Schuldiner

Stick Figure Studios - Yeah I mostly agree with you. Alien 3 is very over hated. I thought Alien Resurrection was WAY WAY WORSE overall.

Chris Thom

It has its charms. Kind of. David Fincher's first movie, for starters.

Story Archer

Oh, come on, it's gotta be Split! We can't even say why but you know why (and how does she know it's a 'sequel'?). And it is by FAR the best movie on that list...

Joe J

Scream 2, really? Cassie loved the first one so much.🙄

Seymor Butz

Yes, it will be a little rough. Perhaps we should bring back the Oh My Gosh counter....considering it originated in her The Shining reaction.

Jeff Smith

Booo lol, scream ain’t close to scary and slashers are like bottom shelf horror 😂. To each their own though.

Dominic Biondi

Scream 2 sucks. Dr Sleep or 28 Weeks

Story Archer

Split is an excellent movie, with a career defining performance...

Joe J

Complete bait & switch...ugh.

Chris Thom

One of the great jump scares in PIB history.

Lamar Smith

Gotta be 'Split' Absolutely fantastic

Joe J

Keep it for the TREAT poll, lol.

Seymor Butz

Can't wait. Think the mods need to put up an Oh My Gosh counter on the screen for old times sake.

Chris Thom

Was I high or is does 28 Years Later have a trailer now?

LukeG84

She has to watch 2 before she can watch the rest!!

Chris Thom

Never heard of it, but that's an incredible title.

Entertainment Navigator

Cassie, you must react to The Monster Squad!! Such a fun not so scary 80's classic!

Tyler Foster

Alien³ - please watch the workprint, known on digital services as the Special Edition. Similarly, watch the Director's Cut of Doctor Sleep -- but be warned, I don't think it belongs on this poll as it will probably be quite frightening for you.

Chris Thom

I would go with Scream 2 if you think October is the only chance of it being watched.

Tyler Foster

Alien³ (Workprint/Assembly Cut/Special Edition) is my favorite one by a significant margin.

JohnnyUtah

Alien 3 and resurrection to me are pointless, just watch prometheus which has it's moments skip covenant onto Romulus which was pretty good.

Chuck Schuldiner

Thank God Underworld 2 isn't winning. Voted for Scream 2, Halloween 2, Alien 3, Doctor Sleep and Blade 2. Guess if I could've chosen 2 more it would be 28 weeks later and Split. Scream 2 is the one I'm rooting for mainly. Her reaction to Scream in 2023 (and The Thing of course) was the best part of Halloween PIB reactions that year. Very happy she's reacting to The Fly 1986 this year.

TheSingulatarian

But, then there is "Glass". As a famous TV producer side once "Every once in a while you have to give the people the cheeseburger."

crazyivan

1976, Comedy/Mystery - Peter Sellers, Peter Falk, David Niven, Maggie Smith, Alec Guiness, James Coco, Truman Capote, Elsa Manchester and Eileen Brennan.

Tyler Foster

Given Cassie already doesn't love these sorts of spoof comedies (Naked Gun being the one famous abandoned reaction), AND she isn't a fan of gross-out humor, I don't think the Scary Movies will be for her.

MrKsummer7

Yes, 10 Cloverfield Lane is considered part of an anthology series under the broader "Cloverfield" banner, but it is not a direct sequel to the first film. J.J. Abrams described it as an anthology, similar to The Twilight Zone, where each film is a standalone story connected by the fictional Cloverfield universe rather than a continuous narrative. 10 Cloverfield Lane should not be on this list.

baz0348

Yes a good one for a future poll of scary but not too scary it is a good film.

Chris Thom

That whole concept of 'steam' can be pretty triggering. But honestly it's an apt warning and metaphor for how some toxic relationships really are. Honestly might suggest it to anyone young or old who wants to avoid that kind of thing going forward.

Mark Vaderr

It should be on this list, even if it has zero chance of winning.

Tyler Foster

@Stick - the director's cut fills in more backstory when we're first introduced to adult Danny, and more importantly, a really great scene in a group where he talks about his father, among other things.

TheSingulatarian

I'd say it should really count for her "No" for reasons.

Chuck Schuldiner

I agree with you Saw 2 should've been a choice on this poll. Honestly would love it if she reacted to the first 3 Saw films. It makes a great trilogy if you leave it at that.

Mark Vaderr

You must be new here. 🤣

Chris Thom

Woman in Black with Daniel Radcliffe not too bad either.

Chris Thom

Nostalgic classic. One of the better horror sequels of all time.

Stick Figure Studios

@JohnnyUtah - I am with you on RESURRECTION. Outside of one stellar sequence, I can't stand that film. Without spoiling anything, Ripley's story ends in the third one for me.

Coleton B.

This is the first time someone didn't offer the alternative of the Assembly Cut and I am here for it, sir. Appreciate you.

Benjamin Gerrald

Make sure you watch the special/extended version of Aliens 3 if you decie to watch it. It makes the film 100 percent better.

Stick Figure Studios

I agree. Outside of one stellar sequence, I can't stand RESURRECTION. Without spoiling anything, for me Ripley's story ends with the third one.

Chris Thom

One of the semi-rare occasions where the special edition is truly better. Agree.

Shehab Dawoud

Idk what happened to the Naked Gun reaction, I thought something went wrong with the footage? Anyway, I think that was early on in the channel. It could be different now. I haven't seen one reaction or met one person who didn't find the first one funny. I don't expect it to be watched, just planting a seed.

Chris Thom

I haven't seen those yet.

Macabre Movie Maniac

I'm still not resting until you see the 2003 remake of The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Cassie. It's a rare horror movie in which the remake is better than the original.

Stick Figure Studios

MM had me from the opening scene. I actually kind of like that it was only seven episodes instead of the usual 10 (both for the religious significance of that number and also for the fact they didn't have to pad the story to extend it out to 10 episodes). It also legit made me cry more than once.

Chris Thom

This is just the first one, I'm sure.

Neill Shaughness

I'm glad Cloverfield Lane is doing relatively well. I don't like the other Cloverfields, but Lane is awesome and I hope more people check it out

Stick Figure Studios

@Chris: Yeah, It's a very interesting concept Rich with subtextual meaning, but that scene itself is just brutal.

Chris Thom

When a Stranger Calls is such a classic. Both versions are good. Also vaguely remembering her semi-promising I Know What You Did Last Summer at some point.

Macabre Movie Maniac

Has anyone else seen The Conjuring: Last Rites yet? Better than the Devil Made Me Do It, but not as good as the first two. Imo

Chris Thom

Actually thought she promised IKWYDLS fairly recently...?

Mark Vaderr

Cassie, you are really asking for it with some of these movies. Don't blame us if you get scared. Glad to see you getting ready for all the fun this season.

Stick Figure Studios

@William: Well, the movie had to thread that very fine needle of both pleasing Lovers of the book (to say nothing of its author) and appealing to all of the moviegoers out there who are fans of the Kubrick film. It was a virtually impossible task and Mike Flanagan actually accomplished it.

Stick Figure Studios

@Chris: It's kind of like CLUE only it came before and is written by Neil Simon.

William Charles

I like all the Basil Rathbone 'Sherlock' movies. Not sure how they work for today's audience.

Ruben Cifuentez

Underworld 2 even has some romance. Cassie would love that

Richard Maurer

Doctor Sleep. I like it more than The Shining Despite Scream 2 acting like it’s in on the money-grab sequel cliche, it’s still a money-grab sequel. Voted for Split and 10 Cloverfield Lane also

Catherine LW

Well, I haven’t heard of some of them. But yes, never seen any of them so my vote is useless.

J D

DOG SOLDIERS (2002) starring Kevin McKidd & filmed in Luxembourg. The best werewolf/lycan movie. The setting takes place in SCOTLAND. Can we make a reaction to it? 🐺 🎖️ Its my bday on OCT 28. Cheers 🍻

crazyivan

Not exactly...Clue is a crappy little movie based on a crappy board game that came out after a gem, written by Neil Simon.

Brent Petty

Train to Busan: One of the best zombie films ever. Great performances (you will probably cry). Fallen: Denzel Washington. Nuff said. Frailty: Directed by Bill Paxton. Starring Bill Paxton (probably his best role) and Matthew McConaughey.

Chris Thom

Scream was actually planned as a trilogy from the get. 4, 5, 6, 7 might be more of the money grabs. But they're all entertaining enough.

Chris Thom

It's doing really well at the box office apparently.

Chris Thom

It's pretty good. But I might skip to H20 if she's not that into the franchise in general.

Richard Maurer

The first Scream was a mediocre one trick pony film. The rest, planned or not, are money-grabs. You can actually plan a sequel ahead of time and still have it be made just to make money.

Rod Reavern

NONE OF THE ABOVE! I recommend "Trick 'R Treat" (2007). It's inarguably the BEST Halloween-themed movie EVER! The only reason it's not at the top of every scary movie fan's favourites list is that it tragically didn't get a theatrical release for dumb reasons that had nothing to do with the movie's quality. The film festival early screenings were universally positive, it received critical praise, and its beloved by genre fans. I finally saw it in August 2009 at the After Dark film festival in Toronto, and it was amazing! It's never going to win a Scary movie poll because it's not mainstream enough. I haven't even been able to get it on the poll for the past 2-3 years, so it's not gonna happen. PLEASE Cassie, just watch it! You recently picked "KPop Demon Hunters" as a surprise pick, so please pick "Trick 'R Treat" as a surprise Halloween season pick. "Trick "R Treat" is the perfect Halloween-themed movie, and it's scary-but-not-too-scary. It features Anna Paquin (Rogue from the X-Men films) and Brian Cox (Stryker from X-Men 2, and more notably, "Succession"). Carly would probably also enjoy it.

FranciscoGios

10 Cloverfield Lane will be tremendous better, it's very unique and I know you won't be bored. But great poll though 👌

Stick Figure Studios

Not yet, but I want to. I love these movies. I know it's not getting very good reviews but it's making huge bank at the box office.

Bill Maurer

Blade 2 was better than the original

Macabre Movie Maniac

I think Cassie might eventually get there and watch those type movies.

Chris Thom

Always wondered why it never had a traditional release. People were pretty hyped on it long before it came out too. But it got delayed for some reason.

Björn Karlsson

On top 5 of my requests 🥰 An awesome movie 😁😁

Richard Maurer

There’s an unwritten rule that any sequel that just has the original film’s title followed by a number is a bad sequel. This poll does a lot to prove that rule, with the possible exception of Blade 2.

Phil Stubblefield

I have little to no interest in any of these films. I'll probably use October the way I usually do: catch up on my backlog of reactions while ignoring most of the "Spooktober" fare. But you guys knock yourselves out! 👻

Joe J

Scream 2 on this poll is nuts...I mean Cassie hated the first one. Maybe there's hope for Robocop 2 down the line, lol.

Richard Maurer

Much like the first Scream it’s vastly overrated.

Andrew Heller

I dont know why but the Scream franchise never did it for me…i love horror movies and seen many many of them but i never got into Scream

Richard Maurer

It’s not nearly as rough as people make it out to be

Chris Retzlaff

Thats a ridiculous theory...Godfather 2..... Terminator 2, Spiderman 2, Lord of the rings 2 towers....Paddington 2...Star Trek 2....Ill make another list and call it List 2

Chris Retzlaff

Split!! Come on....Doctor Sleep.!!! Lets go.... 10 Cloverfield lane.???? Over those other ones...

Richard Maurer

I commend your decision to not vote in a poll you have no interest in or knowledge of. I do the same when Cassie has a rom-com poll. I wish more people would do this.

Richard Maurer

It’s no worse than The Mist, which made a poll previously. I think this is another ‘Fly’ situation where people were overselling how rough a watch it is.

Richard Maurer

Well if you include The first Scream they go from bad to worse.

Nim

Just adding it to the list is an achievement. It's all Kubrick's fault and he should be on the restricted list 😂. That fella knew how to leave an impression. His movies create an unnerving atmosphere. Full metal jacket, a clockwork orange and the shining. Thankfully doctor sleep is not a Kubrick film and that distinction is clear. I think she can handle it if it wins.

Richard Maurer

Catherine - rule of thumb, numbered sequels are notoriously bad. Hope that helps.

Stick Figure Studios

@Nim: I believe she can handle a lot more than she is typically given credit for (I actually think at this point she can probably handle THE EXORCIST), but I'm still surprised it made the list.

Richard Maurer

Or you can just not vote, which is what I do whenever there’s a rom-com poll.

Rod Reavern

The supposed reason for the 2007 delay was that the distributor, WarnerBros, was nervous about releasing it against Rob Zombie's "Halloween" (2007) remake (released at the end of AUGUST), and "Saw IV" (2007) (released October 24, 2007). There was plenty of time between those movies' releases to fit in "Trick 'R Treat"... but WarnerBros decided to delay it until the following year's Halloween release window. Then, the 2008 Financial Crisis occurred in the Fall, the 2008 Presidential Election was a huge distraction, and "Saw V" was released in October again, so the movie was delayed AGAIN! After sitting on the shelf for 2 years, all the positive hype had been squandered, and the movie's rep was burdened by being delayed repeatedly, so they finally just released "Trick 'R Treat" unceremoniously, direct-to-DVD. That's why normies don't remember "Trick 'R Treat." It's a cult classic among true horror movie fans.

RobertNDouglass

Ultramarines: A Warhammer 40K Movie -- If you can think around the primitive CGI visuals, there's plenty of action, plus the Black Legion and the Chaos Demon that takes over Captain Severus (the late Terence Stamp) are some scary dudes. And John Hurt from the first Alien film voices the Imperial Fists Chaplain Karnak.

Stick Figure Studios

The reason I likened it to CLUE is because *POSSIBLE SPOILERS FOLLOW* CLUE is is a widely beloved film (including by me which means I vehemently disagree with your unfair characterization of it, and the game it's based on, as "crappy") that I thought he would know and therefore have a point of reference for. Also, both films involve a group of people (In the case of MBD, very thinly disguised parodies of famous literary/cinematic detectives) trapped in a large mansion one night who have to solve a series of murders. Both are gems filled with a lot of laughs, but the main difference between them is that MURDER BY DEATH was intended as a straight spoof whereas CLUE actually tried somewhat to be a genuine mystery with actual clues.

Richard Maurer

We need another classic horror poll for the ‘not too scary’ part of the polls.

crazyivan

dang, I think I hit a nerve. why does my opinion make you angry? put a band aid on it and let it go.

Richard Maurer

Monster Squad would be a good one for Carly to watch as it’s not at all scary.

Stick Figure Studios

I like the CONJURING movies for the very reason that I think Cassie would like them too: namely, the relationship between the two leads.

Stick Figure Studios

@Willam: Despite them undoubtedly scaring her out of her wits, I think she might actually like them for the same reason that I like them: namely, the relationship between the two leads.

Daniel Turbyfill

Really should skip Nightmare on Elm Street 2 and go straight to part 3.

Nim

I actually think Doctor Sleep will be a little cathartic for Cassie. She built up such a natural defence in her mind after watching the shining that doctor sleep was instantly dismissed. The shining was just a supernatural slasher. It was Kubrick's "atmosphere" that kept building and building that made it unbearable for Cassie. Full metal jacket is just a Vietnam war story. Again it was Kubrick's "atmosphere" that turned it into what it was. Doctor Sleep is definitely not a Kubrick production. It's still got some tough scenes to get through but there's a lot more respite too.

Richard Maurer

Mike - I ever so humbly agree with you. ;-) But at least there are a few actually good sequels on this poll. Like Dr.Sleep, Split, and 10 Cloverfield Lane. When I saw it was a sequels poll I was afraid it was going to be all garbage “number” sequels.

Mike Redford

Personally hoping for halloween 2 (Underappreciated sequel imo). Blade 2 would also be cool, though I remember the first not really being your vibe, cassie. 2 is more action-y though, and blade is just a smidge more tender a character this time around lol

YodatheHobbit

Going with Doctor Sleep since I've been needing a bigger reason to finally see it for a few years now, and I need a good new Ewan movie in my life.

JOHN W LARSON

Would prefer "The Day The Earth Stood Still" from 1951.

Richard Maurer

Worse than Slashers are meta slasher parodies - cringe.

Richard Maurer

There are exceptions to every rule, and that rule mostly applies to horror and action films. Also, there’s no number 2 in LotR: The Two Towers. And it’s not a sequel anyway , it’s a continuation of the first film , like Kill Bill vol. 2

Cody Nelson

There are a lot of good choices on here that make this tough. But I ultimately lean towards Scream 2

Richard Maurer

Same. After you get past the “we’re in on the horror cliches” joke there’s nothing really there. I was bored watching the first one after about a half hour.

Joe J

Right....she's tough as nails. She could barely make it through "The Haunting of Hill House" last year, lol.

Richard Maurer

Yeah, all the people who care if Cassie will actually enjoy a film suddenly disappeared. Funny how that works .

Terry Yelmene

I just hate having to leave this community. I like it here so much. But I guess that time of the year is coming around again. And I'll just say so long until November. Have fun!

Richard Maurer

Well Dr. Sleep isn’t particularly scary, while still being a very good horror movie, so….

John

Train to Busan is excellent.

Jay Jay Reyes

Dr, Sleep? why would you want to watch a sequel to a movie you fear. The Shining?

Jay Jay Reyes

10 cloverfield lane is not scary

Duke Pootentooter

Evil Dead 2 could have made the list. I don't think she has seen the original, but it can be skipped as the 2nd is really a remake rather than a sequel. The humor blunts a lot of the intense parts, so I'm confident Cassie could handle it at this point.

John

Dog Soldiers is great but not what I d call a not too scary one.

Richard Maurer

Apparently Cassie was the one who decided it should on the poll. I appreciate her willingness to be open to a film like this. That being said I doubt it will affect her as much as The Shining did.

David

top 12 winner movie from popcorn in bed

J

I'm not much for scary movies, but Split was really cool.

Chris Thom

Bruce Campbell icon.

Jerrod Acree

While not the scariest, Split is the superior film be far!!

Vincent Vega

Do you like scary movies? I mean there's one obvious winner and if it doesn't win, I'll Scream! 😂

Chad Laurence

Cloverfield Lane? Really ppl, really lol? Smh. The Scream franchise is awful too wtf. Yall have no taste lol.

Chris Thom

I had no idea the Anabelle doll was a real thing. The owner of it just had a heart attack and died supposedly.

Dan M

Any of these would be fine EXCEPT for Alien 3. What a tremendous let down that movie was after one of the best sequels ever made set the bar for horror/action sequels. I’m not familiar with Doctor Sleep at all, so won’t be sad if that doesn’t make the cut.

Chris Thom

I remember following the production back in like 2006. People were excited for a new totally seasonal Halloween-themed horror movie. And then it was strange when it just refused to be released, even after all these people involved said it was good. But anyways, one of the most memorable direct-to-dvd releases ever. So at least there's that. Good times.

Dan M

“Vote or die!” Looks like GoT is having a major impact on you, Cassie. 😂

Chris Breisch

Most of these are pretty bad. Scream 2 is all right. Halloween 2 is ok but is a true slasher flick unlike the first one.

My_Cousin_Mose

A Nightmare on Elm Street was the horror franchise of my childhood. From age 7-12 Freddy haunted my nightmares. I do feel plenty of nostalgia for the rest of the series but don't think the sequels are really worth your time. Not when so few horror movies get watched every year. Besides the first the 3rd one is pretty good and I think the best one is the final movie "Wes Craven's New Nightmare". But again there are better horror films to watch. You've met Freddy- a slasher icon. I think thats enough.

Chris Thom

Pretty amazing that Fincher went on to have such an incredible career after that. But even though it doesn't quite work, it does have a certain distinct style to it.

Coleton B.

Eric, please remove this; it is a blatant spoiler.

Chris Thom

What did you think of the 2010 remake?

My_Cousin_Mose

I never even bothered with it. I hate remakes.

Tyler Hale

Shit movie. Jackie Earle Haley was a decent choice and does the best he can given what he has.

Chris Breisch

If I were going to watch a sequel to Halloween (1978), I would watch Halloween (2018). It replaces Halloween 2 and is at least more interesting. Less of a fan of Halloween Kills and Halloween Ends, though. One advantage of doing Halloween 2, is that you could then move on to Halloween III: Season of the Witch, which I hated at the time, but holds up a bit better over time.

Doug Fisher

Yeah... in my mind there are only 2 Alien movies.

Doug Fisher

Do poll results really shock you anymore?!

Doug Fisher

The original of course?!

Mike Lemon

The remake was good enough. It tried to get back to horror from the silly the originals fell into. I think its big problem was the non-Haley actors, they just weren't very good.

chunk Henderson

Critters, The people under the stairs are ridiculous enough to be considered scary but not too scary. Plus nobody reacts to them. Flowers in the attic would be a good reaction. Split or Blade 2 would be my choices from that list. Why no Saw 2?😅

Doug Fisher

Technically, so does "Blade 2".

Doug Fisher

There are no good version of "Alien 3".

Stick Figure Studios

As I have said elsewhere on this thread, I'm one of those oddballs who actually thinks ALIEN 3 (especially the longer assembly cut) is a great movie. It was trying to be the LOGAN of its day.

Stick Figure Studios

I like the sequel a lot, but I really don't think it is that scary (and indeed it was surprisingly moving) although there is one scene that's going to be tough for her.

Tanggor

Really pulling for Doctor Sleep but it looks out of reach. Not too scary I guess, but a fine sequel. I will say though, if Rebecca Ferguson ever came up behind me and said "Well hi there!" I would...need to change an article of generally non-visible clothing. In the bathroom. After I got done shaking.

Stick Figure Studios

It also accomplished the seemingly impossible task of getting Stephen King to appreciate the Kubrick film more.

Carlos

Only one I see on this list that is worth watching is Doctor Sleep. Cas would love that since she loved The Shinning. I will strongly recommend, The Exorcism of Emily Rose. It is based on the true story of Anneliese Michel,

Nim

I thought King disapproved of the shining.

Dan M

One of the very few times I can’t agree with you, Stick. And I actually feel bad saying that.

Stick Figure Studios

Cassie was apparently a babysitter at one point, so scary babysitter stories really affect her (I believe that is why the opening scene of the first SCREAM really upset her, even though I knkw she's not babysitting, she's still a teenage girl alone in a house being terrorized by a killer), so WHEN A STRANGER CALLS BACK will really get under her skin.

Stick Figure Studios

I like H20 well enough. It's HALLOWEEN for the SCREAM generation. The 2018 one was pretty good, but I don't know that it was better than H2O. I thought KILLS was just awful and ENDS was an interesting movie that would have worked a lot better had it been its own standalone thing rather than a continuation/conclusion of the HALLOWEEN series.

Stick Figure Studios

It wasn't your opinion itself that bothered me so much as the callous way you dismissed my assertion and the somewhat insensitive manner in which you expressed your own. It's fine if you don't like CLUE. It's fine If you think it's crappy, but you don't have to be a jerk about it. Your trollish comments (including your most recent one telling me to just "put a band-aid on it and let it go" as if I were the unreasonable one for being taken aback by your aggressive behavior) suggest that you are probably even less thoughtful than I previously assumed you were, so rest assured, I am putting my Band-Aid on now and moving on. I'll never understand why people online are so deliberately inconsiderate.

JohnnyUtah

Too bad 2 is pretty rough. Dream warriors all the way! Gotta get through 2 to get to 3 though.

Rene G.

Dasmmit I want Freddy Krueger winning the poll.s The sequels are campier as hell!

Rene G.

Nah, I'm all the way for it.. The campier the better. Esp. t he chucky movies

Byrd N. Hand

I honestly don't care about any of these, but I imagine "Doctor Sleep" will make Cassie squirm the most, given it will make her have to revisit "The Shining" (I'm guessing it's still the scariest movie she's ever seen, and, given her unwillingness to watch titles like "The Exorcist" or "Hereditary," she apparently doesn't want to challenge that status it holds). 😏

j lewechi

nightmare on elm street and halloween r classics

j lewechi

wow, the shining is good ngl

Stick Figure Studios

Jackie Earle Haley is a great actor, but nobody other than Robert Englund can play Freddy Krueger.

Stick Figure Studios

That's fine. I realize it's a minority opinion (and one that I actually use to hold),but as I've watched it more over the years, I have grown more and more fond of it. When I saw the extended assembly cut, I came to the realization that it is a great film. It just was not the film people were expecting.

Clay F

Agree about Alien 3. -1 for Alien 3.

Rene G.

Also, putting cloverfield Lane as "horror" needs a Jason Vorheees style massacre with a machete to the face.

Clay F

Cloverfiled Lane is my top choice in the poll. Glad it currently a strong 2nd.

Nim

Great to learn stick 👍

Mike Redford

Never got into scream as a franchise myself. The high school/college kids acting and talking like 40 yr olds, the self aware dialogue, just spoils the slasher vibes imo. I think Wes craven's greatest gift to cinema was nightmare on elm street

Nathan H

Cassie if you watch Alien 3 watch the assembly cut. But be aware Alien 3 the theatrical cut sucks. The third film was done by David Fincher who got screwed by fox studios interference as a first time director. It’s inferior to the first two but the assembly cut would be an acceptable film by itself. But the alien series has found glory again with the newest film. ALIEN ROMULUS! It takes place between the first two. But watch Prometheus and Alien Covenant before Romulus.

Clay F

I voted only these two: 10 CLOVEFIELD LANE and 28 WEEKS LATER. Happy that 10 Cloverfield currently a strong 2nd. Split and Doctor Sleep are my next top choices but couldn't bring myself to vote for them. 1st Scream destroyed her. I am ambivalent. I recognize that the 1st Scream may be revolutionary for the genre, e.g., with the satire (which she couldn't appreciate b/c the movie too real to her). I have only watched the first Scream once, and that was with her reaction. I have never watched a Scream sequel and don't intend to. I read that Scream 2 apparently makes fun of how bad sequels are. Glad that Halloween 2, Nightmare on Elm Street 2, Alien 3, Tremors 2, Poltergeist 2, and especially Underworld 2 are not performing the greatest in the poll. Remember THE SEQUELS RULE = "All sequels with rare exception are bad."

Nicholas

SPLIT = Must see performance!!!

Chuck Schuldiner

To each their own - but Halloween 2018 is crazy overrated IMHO. Most overrated Halloween movie ever!!! I remember seeing it in the theater with my brother, a friend and my father in a packed movie theater (cuz ppl were hyping it up as one of the better Halloween movies). We all hated it. Horrible lines, horrible script, horrible acting, a bunch of woke nonsense strung through it too. Jamie Lee Curtis is overrated too and in real life has a very snoody and masculine personality. Always thought she was never that pretty when she was young too. The original Halloween 2 is 30 times better than that woke movie. I think I dislike it so much I even like both of Rob Zombie's Halloween movies better than that and those are terrible movies too. Anyway like what you like. Forgive the rant I just hated that I payed money to see that pos and hear nothing but ppl praising that movie like it's a return to form for the original and it was a mindless cash grab movie IMO. I will agree with you on Halloween 3 that it grows on you and is a decent movie overall.

MacGuffinStuff

Doctor Sleep is, full disclosure, kind of scary and horrifying, but it is SO one of the best sequels of any genre ever. I voted for several, but I don't mind if this wins but I just have to say it's pushing your boundaries some Cass, but the story, performances etc. really great. 10 Cloverfield Lane, ALSO, so good, so unique too, I personally think anyway. I'm a big horror fan in general so I can probably wax poetic about all these choices really, so I'm good no matter what wins, I'm just happy it wasn't a hundred degrees in Socal today, it's getting to World Series weather and the cool mornings and evenings of autumn that are my favorite time of the year 🎃 👻 😁

Rene G.

You can blame it all on me. Most of the ones on this list are on my Pick a Flick suggestion polls. Go figure. lol

Stick Figure Studios

Although I love DOCTOR SLEEP, I actually never found it that scary. It is horrifying at times though... particularly in THAT scene (and if you've watched it you know which one I'm referring to), but I also found it surprisingly moving. It's what turned me on to Mike Flanagan in the first place.

Rene G.

She'll probably recognize the full metal jacket marine Sgt Hartman in it.. He carried that movie!!

Stick Figure Studios

Ironic that you have never seen SCREAM 2 with no desire to and yet you quoted it practically verbatim at the end of your comment.

Stick Figure Studios

I also found HALLOWEEN 2018 overrated. It was okay, but not nearly as great as everyone was making it out to be.

MacGuffinStuff

I agree but I was just thinking of how Cassie would react to it. I want her to watch it but just felt the need to give her a little disclaimer lol Mike Flanagan is awesome, love everything he's done, so cool how the horror genre really has some serious talent and people are finally recognizing this finally, after decades of critics and audiences just not appreciating the storytelling talent there.

Clay F

If you notice, I stated: "I read that Scream 2 apparently makes fun of how bad sequels are." I will probably watch the reaction.

Stick Figure Studios

TRAIN TO BUSAN is good but a bit overrated IMO. FALLEN is a film that is not very good but which I happen to love and FRAILTY is very good but very disturbing.

MacGuffinStuff

You know what though, I don't remember her reaction to The Shining, I need to rewatch that, maybe it won't be that tough for her (except, ya know, that one scene, I still find that one tough, makes me mad, I played sports when I was a kid too lol)

Clay F

Alien 3 is currently #9, which is 4th from last.

Chris Thom

Always found H20 to be really enjoyable. Perennial seasonal fun.

Rene G.

Horror sequels that are also bad >>>>>>>>> Most modern crap movies of late 2000s... Just saying.

Rene G.

2010 remake was huuuge meh.. I'd take t he freddy sequels to this one.. It even makes the bad sequels look like ed wood classics hence why I defend those "bad sequels" to this day

Clay F

Fortunately, looks like Blade 2 doesn't stand a chance at a distant 4th. The first Blade is so monotonous. She didn't like the first Blade.

Rene G.

I did saw it. Yes, slightly better t han the 3rd one. Decent send off to the Warren couple.

Rene G.

yeah I can't help but laugh at Cassie yeling at the twist ending, "HOW?!?! EVIL CANNOT WIN, I WANT HAPPY ENDINGS!!" 10 saw movies be like: "Yeah about that!" lol.

MacGuffinStuff

Exorcism Of Emily Rose is maybe too much for her, I think it's amazing but, fun story, I had the DVD and would fall asleep watching it, and you know how DVDs would just replay the menu over and over, I'd sleep though hours of Emily Rose shrieking and convulsing and somehow I never had a nightmare. I think she might though.

Chris Thom

Scream 2 is the perfect October movie IMO. Part of that is probably my age range and the nostalgia, but it's also chronically on cable this time of year, and the seasonal associations just....are. Almost as much as the original Halloween, in my book. Actually surprised you've gone all these years without seeing it. It's lived on cable, HBO, streaming, and other movie channels for a while now. Hope you can enjoy it for what it is, if it wins. Think of these movies as a thrill ride/roller coaster and almost like a self-defense cosplay exercise. Go through the motions of the film, and maybe be that much more prepared for whatever comes in life. But it's all make believe. No need to take it too seriously if you don't want to.

Chris Thom

The whole steam concept is genuinely pretty eerie. Something kind of true to life with that one.

Chris Thom

Watched it last year and thought it was pretty solid. The haunting feels very personal in that one. Maybe more than any of the others. But yeah it's a bit campy.

Brian Lowery

The directors cut of Doctor Sleep is a woefully underrated film. Great casting, and an adherence to both the novel and the Kubrick version of The Shining. Highly recommend.

Chris Thom

Fairly miraculous they were able to meld the two as well as they did. I really wasn't expecting it to work, to be honest. But respect to Mike Flannagan.

Chris Thom

We're just happily rewriting history to claim Cassie loved The Shining. Lol. More accurate, I think she barely tolerated it. But also can't quite forget it.

Chuck Schuldiner

Yeah I agree and yes hopefully Scream 2 wins. I wonder if she'll watch the top 3 from this poll or just the winner. I think Doctor Sleep would be my second pick if Scream 2 doesn't win. Totally understand the nostalgia too. Was 13 years old when it came out. Even though I love Scream 2 never understood the group out there that prefers it over the original.

MacGuffinStuff

It is eerie. Horror movies (some, paranormal ones) are actually different for me now, because I've sort of evolved over the years, not saying I'm better just different than my younger self. I was raised very religious, then I was a hardcore atheist for many years, then Iived in a haunted house lol. And that's all I'm gonna say, and that I've become more open minded as I've aged and experienced some things that I still can't explain and I don't think anyone could, Neil DeGrasse Tyson would have a nervous breakdown if he lived in that house 😂

Chris Thom

Yeah I was thirteen too. Seventh grade. Saw Scream three times in the theater, and Scream 2 twice. Was pretty much my intro to horror and got me well hooked. When a Stranger Calls and Halloween were the next two I rented I think. Saw parts of Silence of the Lambs at six but bolted out of the room and didn't understand what was happening at all.

Obie Brown

Doctor Sleep is so good, it will actually heal her trauma from the first film, what a movie

Clay F

When Scream 2 was released, I was 34 with a 2-year old kid and incredibly busy at work, and with zero interest to watch Scream 2. Part of it is I have never been a fan of horror movies -- one of my least favorite genres.

Rene G.

Hell, I liked Rob Zombie's halloween remake better than 2018..

Rene G.

Wes Craven said it himself the scream franchise is actually the REAL parody of horror tropes over the shitty Scary Movie from Wayans.. Not joking.. So, yeah I'm a fan of those.

Rene G.

So, since Freddy and Michael Myers are getting low votes, next year would be Hellraiser and Friday the 13th franchises. Hellraiser would have such sights to show you, cassie!!!

Brent Petty

I'd like to see Cassie react to Paranormal Activity (ONLY the first one).

Keith Jones

Nice to see my streak of picking losers shows no sign of stopping! 🤪

Rene G.

For me. Wes' bestest gift was Serpent and the Rainbow with Bill pullman

Richard Maurer

Because Cassie loves jump scares? Those movies are jump scare fests.

Tyler Foster

Coleton, it's the same cut. There are only two different versions of the movie. Sorry! Doug: Alien³ is my favorite one by a significant margin.

Richard Maurer

Once again we can count on the worst movie leading the poll - yes, Scream 2 is easily the worst movie in this poll. And that’s saying a lot considering how bad some of the other films are.

CJ Holden

You saw that ALIEN³ is in the poll too, right? :D

Richard Maurer

I only watched Scream 2 because a friend told me it was better than the first one. I called him a f’ing liar when it was over.

Richard Maurer

Yes, I did. That tells you exactly what I think of Scream 2.

Clay F

10 Cloverfield Lane currently 2nd place losing by only 16 votes to Scream 2. **Scream 2 - 387 **10 Cloverfield Lane - 371 4 days remaining in the poll. Maybe Scream 2 will lose steam. The current bottom 5: 8. Underworld 2 - 180 9. Alien3 - 156 10. Tremors 2 - 155 11. Nightmare on Elm Street 2 - 99 (next to last) 12. Poltergeist 2 - 76 (last place)

Rastislav Petrík

So first of all - I definitely do not consider Alien 3 to be a horror movie! And if the time came to react to this film, which version are we talking about - the theatrical version or the director's cut? Because in this case, these are two completely different movies!

MacGuffinStuff

Damn is Poltergeist 2 that bad lol? 2% damn haha, so me and a couple other people, Poltergeist 3 was objectively bad, no doubt , but 2, I guess it's just me. Because that preacher guy was the boogie man for so many 80s kids, and Will Sampson as the shaman was a badass, although they literally lifted his lines practically straight from the Carlos Castañeda books about a (fictional?) Yaqui Mexican shaman, since Cassie probably won't ever watch it I'll just say one of my favorite dialogues but just the Will Sampson parts, Craig T Nelson also has lines but he's drunk and needs to hear this: "You feel like a leaf at the mercy of the wind don't you? Since the day you were born someone has been doing something to you, and they've been doing something against your will, but now you feel like a leaf in the wind,.... No matter how much you like to feel sorry for yourself, you have to change that, I'm a warrior, a warrior would rather be defeated and die than act against his nature, that is a path you have chosen to take, whether you know it or not, YOU should assume full responsibility... Responsibility for everything, EVERYTHING in your world." I love that, you can't of course, but you do the best you can.

JC762

Must be in a Dark room, alone! 😀

Byrd N. Hand

I enjoyed the first 2 "Scream" movies when they first came out, but soured on the franchise after seeing the third one. Now I think they're all pretty shallow -- not as much as something like "I Know What You Did Last Summer," which actually generally takes itself seriously, but still. The 'Assembly Cut' of "Alien³" is apparently much better than the theatrical cut, but because it's another one of those 'despite how the previous movie ended, we're gonna hit the reset button' sequels, it was flawed from the start. As a general rule of thumb regarding horror sequels, I'd say Drew Barrymore's "Scream" character said it best: 'The first one was good, but the rest sucked.' 🤔

Simon Robinson

I dint care for 90% on this list. But its hard to please me so im used to it scream is pure shite and i would never watch them. I can tell theyre bas just from half a trailer Alien 3 is interesting as its the best on here... Even in its theatrical release. But i dont care too much for that one... The movie onky becomes good in the Directors Cut. The exact opposite of the first Alien movie that becomes a bad movie in the Directors Cut. Too much is shown, and the effects are just not there yet. Hate when the xenomorphs walks down corridors like a bloke... Get on all four mate.... 😎

Simon Robinson

Yup the best on the list in both versions.. but thats only because of the tripe on here...

Simon Robinson

Second best film on here if we get Alien 3 DC. If standard version then Doctor Sleep wins hands down..

Clay F

10 Cloverfield Lane has closed the gap to a mere 6 votes with Scream 2.

LongGiang Le

Hello Cassie / & Carly: I’m many ways karate kid is a famous Halloween iconic American moment (from 1984☀️: Would you put The Karate Kid” on your Halloween 🎃 poll list?? 🙋🏻‍♂️

Annie519

Yes!! She just needs to watch it!!

Rosario

I wish I could vote for all of these haha

LukeG84

This poll is too close for comfort. 😳

GillyBean

if doctor sleep wins, i think maybe we should give a heads up for that one scene?

Clarence Newman

I'm a tender soul so I have very little skin in this game. I have a sneaking affection for Halloween 2, though. Jamie Lee returns and it's a pretty suspenseful stalker movie. I'm personally looking forward to Cassie watching some lighter fare, and let's face it....there are few things lighter than a Fly.

Stick Figure Studios

Wes Craven was just a gift to cinema himself. Not many directors can say they redefined a genre three decades in a row: LAST HOUSE ON THE LEFT in the 70s, NIGHTMARE ON ELM STREET in the 80s and SCREAM in the 90s

Stick Figure Studios

@Tyler: it's not my favorite ALIEN film (that is still the original), but it's the one I find myself returning to the most as it is the most spiritual/existential of the series and consequently, for me at least, the most moving. As I've says before, if ALIEN is the horror movie and ALIENS is the action flick, then ALIEN 3 is the art film.

Philip Alan

Uh... no. We don't do that. Did someone warn you first before you saw the movie? NOPE! :)

Philip Alan

Forget the poll, Cass. Just watch Halloween 2 just for me please. kthanksboo!

Philip Alan

I enjoyed Alien3 AND Resurrection! (hides)

Milton Reduxed

You can, but what would be the point as it's the same as voting for none...

Ian Tonge

Disappointing to see Split on the list. It's a fine movie, but it's much better to go into it not knowing it's a sequel. I guess that ship has sailed though.

Farbod

Blade 2 is an all timer.

Milton Reduxed

Scream 2 is not the strongest but is good enough to make an enjoyable edit. I broadly enjoy the original trilogy and stop there

Clarence Newman

No need. Game of Thrones is giving Cassie a heads up for all possible variants of difficult scene ever.

Clarence Newman

I remember enjoying that one more than the first.

Clarence Newman

And you can vote for them all. It's multiple voting. But Milton has a point.

Nim

My poll doesn't have the actual number of votes displayed just the percentages. Am I doing something wrong here?

Milton Reduxed

I voted Nightmare on Elm Street 2 as, at that time, it was genuinely subversive to take a successful franchise with a male audience and make it gay

fastecp1

Split is excellent! And 10 Cloverfield Lane would be my second pick, and then Dr. Sleep.

fastecp1

If Scream II wins, I'll probably scream! I'm not saying it's a bad movie, I just don't see how it's in first place.

Xavier Casanova

10 Cloverfield Lane is NOT a sequel. In fact, Cinebinge reacted to it thinking the same and I think it spoiled George's reaction to the film because he kept trying to associate the previous film to it. Rather than enjoy what the movie was.

Xavier Casanova

lol, yeah, Game of Thrones is going to harden her on a lot more provocative material.

Brian Moran

If you watch Alien 3 make sure its the assembly cut. The theatrical version is absolutely awful. 10 Cloverfield Lane may not be a sequel but it is set in the same world. As is Cloverfield Paradox. Blade 2 is great, i think its the best of the 3. Split is amazing James McAvoy is superb.

Xavier Casanova

Someone should let Cassie know Doctor Sleep was made from the same guy who did The Haunting of Hill House. So even if this doesn't win, it might be something she'd want to consider watching Spooky season or non-Spooky season, given how much she enjoyed that show.

Kawaii Leonard

Ah. Since Split's not going to win, might as well throw a vote for Doctor Sleep to stop Scream from winning. 😀

Walter

I like Blade 2 *shrug* ... maybe the next poll will be more my thing

casual_juergen

Wasn't Mrs. PiB scared silly by the first Halloween? I did not expect to see that franchise here again. I went for the sequels to Blade, Scream and Nightmare on Elm Street.

GillyBean

lmao i'm watching GoT here too how did i forget XD

GillyBean

aight just asking, don't need the sass ;) i just vaguely remember her having a heads up on other movies before

Richard Maurer

She’s seen Karate Kid. And one scene doesn’t make it a Halloween movie anyway.

Clarence Newman

I think that's generally an entire movie heads-up, Gilly. I definitely posted saying "Has Cassie been warned about this?" when Passion of the Christ was announced.

Clarence Newman

Mine has vote totals, Nim. Might be a tier thing though I'm not sure why.

Milton Reduxed

They lost in me in the fist scene, you know what I mean

Milton Reduxed

You can still vote for films you'd be interested in as a first-watch

Richard Maurer

How Wes Craven is considered a great horror director I’ll never understand. He made like three good horror movies in his early career and the last one was Nightmare on Elm Street. Yet he somehow gets mentioned alongside directors like Carpenter, Romero, and Cronenberg, a honor he doesn’t deserve.

Milton Reduxed

That's misinformation, Coleton—There are two Alien movies, everything after that is bad fanfic

Milton Reduxed

Last thing we want is a Marvel fanboy guiding the schedule

Richard Maurer

None of the movies in this poll are scary.

Peter Morscheck

I feel like Scream 2 will win based on sheer general popularity - but Blade 2 is a masterpiece. That's not hyperbole - Guillermo del Toro directed it - and he later went on to win Best Director and Best Picture for The Shape of Water.

The Fly

I'm curious what Richard thinks about Scream 2, from the dozen or so comments I'm unclear whether he's a fan...?

The Fly

Bummer it's bringing up the rear, but maybe it will come from behind

Richard Maurer

Lucky that you don’t have to watch then.

The Writer Black

I am a bit disappointed but not shocked at all that Tremors 2 is so low in the score. Not quite as good as the first, but still a good watch I think. Oh well. Also, for your own sake please don't bother watching Alien 3 it's infamous among fans for being nowhere near as good as the first 2.

Richard Maurer

Thank you. But at this point you might want vote for 10 Cloverfield Lane too since it has a much better chance of beating Scream 2.

Batman

@Richard, I think the parody went over your head, son

Mike Redford

Love the evil dead films, and series. Army of darkness is prob my favorite. Cheesier than the first two, but yet so fun

Kawaii Leonard

IDK. That isn't really in the horror genre, in my opinion. Cloverfield lane, that is.

Dean Holt

I don’t actually think I’ve seen a movie when John Goodman ever been bad tbh. I might actually be changing my vote to Cloverfield Lane as I think it’s a lot better than Scream 2.

Richard Maurer

Honestly I understand not wanting vote for something because you don’t think belongs in the genre. Personally though I feel the same about the Scream series. More parody than actual horror movies, not much different from the Scary Movie series. But to each their own.

Richard Maurer

I love it. It’s just a really tough love.

Richard Maurer

Nothing goes over my head! My reflexes are too fast. I would catch it.

Canadianant

I agree other than Cassie was truly scared by the first scream. I remember that being an unusual reaction in that because Cassie had such little history and experience with the slasher genre she didn't get that this was supposed to be a parody and was actually supposed to be a comedy send up slashers poking fun at all the tropes of the genre. I don't think she particularly cared for the first one so in some ways I'm surprised to see the second one on the pole although I guess there's always those people that want gassy to watch something that scares the wits out of her

LongGiang Le

Richard Maurer Well thank you Mr. Debbie Downer Sir... Gee I'm really glad I specifically consulted you on this. 1). I write on this site to get Cassie & Carly's opinion.... Has she done a review of Karate Kid? NO. so if you are craving attention sir, I encourage you to start your own film review site...... we'll see how big/far that one grows considering how sweet and insightful you are with all of Cassie's customers. lol 😌 🙄 Are you Cassi's Husband?? I doubt it. - don't think her husband would jump in the comments and be rude to her customers 2). It's not just "one scene": Halloween is not only the iconic moment where Johnny & the Cobra Kai's break out their famous skeleton constumes, its one of the pivotal moments of the whole movie - for Daniel's famous dance with Ali, for what she says and does to Johnny in the scene, for Daniel's relationship with Mr. Myagi...... So thanks for trying to be a jerk bc you actually highlighted the exact opposite point you were trying to make (which again I never asked you for. lol): Halloween is a huge aspect of this movie - it's what leads to the tournament at the end

CJ Clontz

Poltergeist 2 is a good movie. Scary but not to scary. Perfect fit. Many of the same cast are in the sequel except the oldest daughter. She was murdered after the first movie came out.

CJ Clontz

Dr Sleep is a masterpiece of writing and the movie is fantastic! Great sequel

LongGiang Le

You really do need attention at the crack of dawn... I'll keep you in my prayers at our monthly meetings. ... that maybe you'll get some help.

Richard Maurer

What do horror and Marvel have to do with each other?

Choof

Dang, thought doctor sleep would hold in to 1st or 2nd place

Rick Rodriguez

You have now done so, Xavier. YOU are chosen.

Richard Maurer

I had hope early on, but as is often the case here the best film doesn’t win.

Resul Baggio

Scream 2? Lol. Tremors 2 or blade 2, heck alien 3 is more fun to watch then any scream movies

Joe J

It's obvious she never watches anything she doesn't want to watch. She never has, lol.

Joe J

I voted for Doctor Sleep since weirdly it would be kind of a horror break-through for Cassie, if that makes sense, lol. It's losing, so no worries.

Mike Lemon

Boy, that sounds like a personal attack...

Richard Maurer

Yeah, I’ve only been talking about movies, but people keep coming at me. I guess that’s okay now?

JRCortez

There are two Ghost Story movies, from 1981 and 2017. The first had a fantastic cast and a couple of creepy scenes but it was panned by most critics. The second was awesome, nothing too scary but funny and sad at the same time…..

John Drake

Surely Psycho 2 should be on the list. It's pretty decent

Mark White

So, I don’t have alot riding in these October polls, as I’m not really a horror fan. I suppose out of these movies I prefer the Blade and Underworld movies. However, I shall not vote for them out of the principle they are not horror movies. I should imagine having them on a horror poll must be a little frustration for true horror Fans.

Mark White

The way I look at it is, if it was a Sci-fi poll, with movies like Sunshine and Interstellar which I love! And Guardians of the Galaxy vol 3 won I would be annoyed it was on the poll in the first place. There fore I shall go with Doctor Sleep and Halloween 2.

Clay F

A respectable 3rd place. Maybe could win in a future poll.

Sam R.

🤣🤣🤣up your butt , vote or die followed by an I'm sorry 🤣🤣🤣 literally LOL

Belthazor82

I voted for Scream 2. Not only is it a great franchise overall (though some parts are better than others), but also your reaction to the first one was one of my favorite reactions of yours ever. Having said that... since you reacted to The Haunting of Hill House last year, will you continue with the Mike Flanigan shows? The Haunting of Bly Manor would be up next. Probably the least popular one out of the bunch, but still good and worth watching. Just don't expect it to be anything like Hill House and you won't be disappointed.

Richard Maurer

LongGiang Le - I wasn’t being rude to you, but you chose to take it that way. I was actually trying to explain why a reaction to Karate Kid is unlikely to happen. Cassie has seen Karate Kid in her personal life before she was doing reaction videos. So there is no “review” and unless she does a rewatch there most likely will never will be one. That Halloween scene is only part of the movie, so it’s not really considered a Halloween film in general. You didn’t ask for my opinion - actually, you kind of did. You made a comment - in a comment section - and your comment, like all comments, has a reply button. If you make comments here you are likely to get replies, and some of them may disagree with what you said. Which is permissible within rules here. Hope this helps to explain how things work here. Have a nice day.

Richard Maurer

Also, I removed one of my comments since the op altered the comment I was replying to and my comment no longer made sense within the context of his altered comment.

Clay F

If you want to stop Scream 2, then vote 10 Cloverfield Lane that has the best (really only) chance to beat Scream 2. A few hours ago, 10 Cloverfield Lane had closed the gap to a mere 4 votes with Scream 2. Now I check, and Scream 2 has surged. I was hoping 10 Cloverfield Lane would win. Both get reasonable reviews. IMDb 7.2, Metacritic 76, RT 91%, RT Audience 79% - 10 Cloverfield Lane (2016) IMDb 6.3, Metacritic 62, RT 83%, RT Audience 58% - Scream 2 (1997) The best chance to affect the outcome (1st place) of the poll is to vote 10 Cloverfield Lane or Scream 2.

Clay F

Dr Sleep doesn't stand a chance. A vote for Dr. Sleep is highly unlikely to affect the outcome of the poll.

AdrianF

For me 10 Cloverfield is the better of the 3 (I mean, Mary Elizabeth Winstead is my soft spot, sorry) in its franchise. But the first three Screams are really quite good. Director's cut of DrS is also great. I'd be happy with any tbh.

Joe J

It's all very confusing. This poll came out of left field, lol. The lighter fare I always expect to be on her TREAT polls and the toughies on her TRICK polls.

Just Plain Bob

Thanks, Mark! Well said. Good analogy, btw.

Richard Maurer

Surprised not to see Just Plain Bob here. I figured he’d have a lot to say about this poll.

Mark Vaderr

Yes, she has come a long way, and in many ways she's still quite the terrified Cassie we all adore. I go back to her reaction to "War of the Worlds" as an example, and that's not even a horror movie. If "Scream 2" prevails in this poll, I expect to see a similar reaction to the first movie. I remember many people here said that Cassie would love "Scream" because of it's satirical approach and all of the references to horror movies. I said that Cassie would not enjoy "Scream" because of the horror in it, and she would be so scared, that she wouldn't even notice the references. Turned out, I was right. Cassie is not a horror maven, but she's shrewd when it comes to her channel. She's giving her fans what they want at her own expense. She willingly put these movies on the poll, so she knows what she's getting into, and I applaud her for being a good sport.

Just Plain Bob

I’ve about given up. I can’t believe several of these entries are even on here. Meanwhile, no Dawn of the Dead or Psycho 2. And why is 10 Cloverfield Lane so popular? It’s a thriller, not horror, and it’s extremely average. I’m not generally a fan of sequels - not on any principle, but because they’re usually devoid of imagination and little more than a rehash of the original. But, even so, this is a sad group of offerings. More than ever I’m convinced that Cassie’s inner circle knows next to nothing about horror.

Clay F

+1 for Mary Elizabeth Winstead

Richard Maurer

Not going to lie, one of the films I voted for was 10 Cloverfield Lane. True it’s not a horror film, but it had the best chance of beating Scream 2, which is not really horror either, just a parody. At least 10CL is a good movie, unlike Scream 2.

Just Plain Bob

I don’t see the appeal of 10 Cloverfield Lane but I understand your dislike of Scream 2. I did think it was harsh to compare the Scream movies to the Scary Movie franchise, though. I think that was you, though I could be wrong (I think it was a couple of threads back and I’m too lazy to look.) I HATE the Scary Movie franchise more than anything that’s not a rom-com. It seems like a deliberate insult to horror movies and their fans, not a good natured jab at a genre. It’s dim witted humor, at best. That said, I also think a LOT of the humor in the Scream franchise is misplaced and based on non-existent horror tropes. They seem to have been written by someone who has only a passing familiarity with the genre, thinks it’s beneath him and wrote his scripts accordingly. Kevin Williamson is a moron.

MrKsummer7

Wow, a film written and produced as a standalone is in 2nd place in a Sequels Poll … smgh

Joe J

I didn't care much for 10 Cloverfield...but prefer it over Scream 2. Lesser of two evils.

Just Plain Bob

PS to my last post: This may be the most controversial thing I ever say about horror movies. Wes Craven is overrated. He only ever made one truly great horror film, “A Nightmare on Elm Street.” “Last House on the Left” is an overrated thriller. “Serpent and the Rainbow” is so boring I’d say it’s what a nap would look like if you could film it. “People Under the Stairs” did not age well and the concept is better than the execution. And “The Hills Have Eyes” shows its low budget in the worst way possible in every frame. The remake was better than the original. I also watched the third season of Project Greenlight, a tv show in which he, Ben Affleck and Matt Damon searched for someone whose film they would finance. They selected John Gulager’s “Feast”, of which I’m a fan. But what I hated about the show was Craven’s open contempt for the genre that put him on the filmmaking map and made him rich. I lost a lot of respect for him over the course of the show.

Chris Thom

Yeah I get that. I think movies that come out between ages 5 and 25 just have a different resonance. It's fun to come across a movie or show every so often that has a touch of that instant-nostalgia thing. But it's pretty rare. Severance on apple plus is about as close as it's come in recent years for me.

JC762

It's never a sure thing but my guess is that Cloverfield, Scream, and probably Split have the highest likelihood of fun reactions. Thats what I am always looking for. Plenty of mediocre films on this channel have generated great reactions. I love Tremors 2. It was great fun. Dumb movie, but probably would be a good reaction but I just don't know. time will tell

Barry

Any Tremors sequel is a yes all day long.

Grad

Poll would've been shaping up pretty nicely if it weren't for Scream 2. "And why is 10 Cloverfield Lane so popular?" Probably, in part, because people don't want Scream 2 and Cloverfield is the closest to beating it.

Chris

okay but hear me out. Weapons. its as funny as it is spooky. kind of.

Richard Maurer

Grad - exactly, it was my third choice but it’s the only thing with even a chance of beating S2.

Richard Maurer

Bob - I did say it was comparable to the Scary movie franchise but mostly because it was a pretty good insult. And I was running out ways to insult Scream 2. I wrote something similar about Craven - NoES being the last good thing he had done. And how I hated that he was put in the same company as Carpenter, Romero, and Cronenberg, which he in no way deserves.

Kawaii Leonard

I think between Scream 2 and Cloverfield Lane, I actually (gasp) prefer Scream 2 more, only because it will be a better reaction.

Just Plain Bob

I’ve heard very good things about Weapons and am anxious to see it. But is it anywhere close to getting a streaming release? Isn’t it still in theaters?

Tyler Foster

It just hit digital services for rental and purchase, possibly yesterday.

Chris

just released on VoD, should be hitting HBO Max in October. that said, it might be intense fare. its no "Bring Her Back" but its a couple steps past "Tremors"

Alex

Wow, these comments. It's like people aren't allowed to vote for what they want to see.

Tyler Foster

IMO, Scream 2 is one of the best slasher sequels of all time and may even be slightly better than Scream, which I also think is a masterpiece. Enjoyed 10 Cloverfield Lane okay but have never been drawn to rewatching it since I saw it theatrically. Craven had his fair of stinkers but I liked him just fine. Can't say I understand hating an entire genre (rom-coms). That's so many movies from so many decades by so many types of filmmakers covering so many types of tones. Hard to believe one hates It Happened One Night the same way as they hate Emma (2020), for example. (And so frequently I find it's rom-coms in particular that are singled out, rather than literally any other genre...)

Just Plain Bob

Excellent news! Thanks for the info.

Richard Maurer

I’m get that people like Scream, Scream 2 Scream 74 whatever, but I don’t, and I clearly don’t mind letting people know. I still remember when the first one came out and people were raving. I went to see it and was like really? This is what people are raving about - not funny, not scary and has the worst slasher character ever.

Just Plain Bob

Richard mentioned three legendary horror filmmakers in a post below. I believe Cassie should offer up polls of their work for inclusion in her Halloween reactions. John Carpenter Cassie’s already seen several of his best films (Halloween, The Thing, Christine, Starman and Big Trouble in Little China). But she still hasn’t seen several of his horror films, those being: The Fog (1980) Prince of Darkness (1987) They Live (1988) In the Mouth of Madness (1994) Vampires (1998) George A. Romero Cassie hasn’t seen a single film of Romero’s, which borders on criminal. Must see films include: Night of the Living Dead (1968) The Crazies (1973) Martin (1977) Dawn of the Dead (1978) Creepshow (1982) Day of the Dead (1985) David Cronenberg It’s my understanding that we’re finally gonna get Cronenberg’s masterpiece, The Fly. But other great Halloween fare directed by Cronenberg includes: Shivers (1975) Rabid (1977) The Brood (1979) Scanners (1980) Videodrome (1982) I’m aware that several of the movies on the above lists are really not horror, but Cassie’s certainly picked plenty of scary-adjacent film in the past and several of the listed films would have zero chance of getting a reaction otherwise.

Richard Maurer

Sure you can. But people can disagree too. And let people know that they disagree. Why is this a surprise in a comments section?

Erik Locquiao

Please watch “What We Do In The Shadows” (2014) for October. It’s the perfect for you and Carly for Halloween.

Just Plain Bob

Hang onto your hat then, Tyler. In the next several weeks you will see repeated posts accusing horror fans of misogyny, sadism, psychopathy, attempting to harm Cassie, and any number of other crimes against humanity, God and nature. All for having the temerity to suggest films or just vote on polls. I HATE rom-coms (at least, those made in the last four decades) but I’ve never accused fans of the genre of various forms of mental illness and trying to harm other human beings just because they like something I don’t. It’s EVERYONE’S prerogative to love or hate what they wish. I have no obligation to like modern rom-coms and it’s not a decision that I arrived at uninformed. I’ve seen plenty of them and hated almost every one. What is troublesome is attacking others just because they like something you don’t, which happens every year in October. I have to wonder if that kind of vitriol would be accepted if it was aimed at the fans of rom-coms in these threads. I suspect it wouldn’t be tolerated. Interesting, those double standards.

Chris Thom

It was ok. Not super memorable.

Ted Little

These are all far too scary for me.

Richard Maurer

What I’m seeing now as well recently, but especially on the sequel poll is people accusing me of being rude, or not allowing people to vote for what they want, simply because I replied disagreement with their post. Has everyone forgot how comments work? You make a comment - fine. But then I or anyone else can reply, agree or DISAGREE, with your comment, as long as there are no direct insults to the commenters. And I know this part hurts, but disliking a movie that you like and stating why I do are NOT insults, they’re differences of opinion .

Bryan Erickson

I’m a lifelong, die-hard ANOES series fan, but it disappoints me that ANOES 2 is NOT in last place. Easily worst movie on the list. But I’m down for whatever. 👍

Just Plain Bob

Too many people in these threads act as though disagreeing is some sort of violence on their psyche. It’s not. But it goes to whole other level when someone disagrees with Cassie. Then it’s TREASON! I like Cassie and I like her channel. I wouldn’t have a paid subscription otherwise. But that doesn’t mean I have an obligation to fawn over every movie she likes or denigrate every movie she dislikes. It certainly doesn’t mean I have an obligation to love rom-coms just because she does. Adults are allowed to disagree and to voice that disagreement. As long as the disagreement doesn’t become personal, what’s the big deal?

Tyler Foster

I don't know if Cronenberg is for Cassie. The body horror stuff might be too out there for her. I also think Day of the Dead might be a little too far, gore-wise, even though I think it's great -- definitely of an era when the effects guys were trying to push the envelope as far as possible, which strikes me as something that wouldn't be so fun for her. (Night and Dawn seem more manageable).

Tyler Foster

I see no reason to go out of one's way to just say "this thing sucks." I will say that I like movies that other people have talked down but I just don't understand the point of being negative. Yes, you *can* share every opinion you have, but I don't understand the appeal of simply saying something derogatory about someone else's taste. Cassie constantly wishes for people to be nicer and spread positive vibes.

Chris Thom

Ohhh that was Dominique Dunn. Totally forgot about that. Her father was a character on that Menendez Brothers show on Netflix last year.

Chris Thom

There's been some comments about it on the LIVE chats, but not sure if she saw them.

Chris Thom

I think the connection was more of an after thought. I don't think they even had Cloverfield in mind while it was written.

Tyler Foster

I will grant that at least in this individual comment thread, the complaints are not directed at anyone. I do think it is basically antagonistic -- not that I'm accusing either of you of doing this necessarily, but I see it happening -- and find every comment praising a movie you don't like and saying "I think that movie sucks!" underneath it. I agree that nobody is inherently breaking the rules by saying they don't like a movie someone loves, but I also think you've got to be fooling yourself if you act like you don't understand why this behavior might be viewed as annoying. If you were having a conversation with a friend outside a movie theater and mentioned a movie you like, and some other person walked up and was like, "that movie sucks!" I think most of us would find that behavior weird, and I don't think being in a comment section changes the oddness of that behavior. As far as recommending things to Cassie, I do think there are people who really have taken the concept that she's trying to get outside her comfort zone and have weaponized it as a reason to recommend her anything, for any reason. Much like rom-coms, I think it's too complicated to be black-and-white. She has been more terrified by movies I thought were pretty tame (What Lies Beneath) and less terrified by movies I thought she'd struggle with (Girl With the Dragon Tattoo). And more to the point, I feel like some people look at it as some sort of shock therapy, in which we have a responsibility to force her to watch things she might not like. I don't do that to other people I recommend movies to and I don't understand doing that with Cassie. If people are looking out for her, you can disagree, but I don't see the point in taking it personally.

Just Plain Bob

No one is forcing Cassie to watch anything, Tyler. She’s a grown woman. Every single movie she reacts to, SHE made the choice. As for the analogy of people talking outside a movie theater, you miss a very important element of that conversation - it was intended to be private. If you post something in a public forum, it automatically invites responses. And most of the responses I’ve seen go beyond “that movie sucks!” Most people, myself and Richard included, make an effort to explain why we don’t like something, or why we do. As for the “shock therapy” remark, it’s exactly to kind of ad hominem attack I was talking about before. Why do you draw that conclusion? I’ve very rarely, if ever, seen anyone in these forums express a desire to see Cassie in distress. Why do you assume the worst? To me, that’s a much more destructive and hostile attitude than someone simply saying they hate a movie and here’s why. You’re impugning the character of people you don’t know with no evidence whatsoever, as opposed to criticizing a movie you’ve seen and don’t like.

Clarence Newman

+1 for Creepshow and The Fog I still say Carrie is a good horror film.

Just Plain Bob

Clarence, aside from the single jump scare, there’s not a single thing to recommend Carrie as a horror movie. It’s a melodrama, pure and simple. Very well done and with supernatural elements, but not horror. Name a single moment in the rest of the film that’s scary, besides that one jump scare.

Richard Maurer

Tyler - if you think a movie sucks what’s wrong with saying so? Why can’t people handle dissenting opinions? I don’t take it personally when someone disagrees with my movie choices. I’ll admit I enjoy repeatedly hate posting against films I hate. But how is that any different than people repeatedly saying they love movie X and voted for movie X and movie X is the best movie on the poll? Believe me if you happen to hate movie X, there isn’t a difference. I just like to balance things out a bit.

Clay F

next to last

Clay F

I second what Richard says. Please feel free to you give your positive feedback or negative feedback about any movie in a poll. We are adults.

Clarence Newman

Yeah, we've had a lot of debate on here in recent months about what constitutes an unacceptable comment, and it's proving very hard to establish parameters for it. In the end, disagreement and debate is not only okay, but essential to a lively and energetic forum. What else is there to do once votes are cast than to discuss and debate, and by its very nature, that's going to include disagreement. Abuse is not tolerated, but by the same measure, we do have to guard against OVER-sensitivity. There's too much of that in the world right now and patrons are right to call it when they see it. Both sides are going to butt heads occasionally, but for the most part, I think we do pretty well here.

Clay F

A distant last place. Maybe many patrons voting haven't seen it.

Cole Jennett

Totally with you Tyler. Some people can’t sit anything out. I disagreed (in my head) with a movie you recommended in the last hour or so (I’m sure you know which one, lol) and just felt like “what’s the point of being negative.”

Clarence Newman

The bit with the bucket, Bob. You know, where she does the thingy and there's lots of screaming. WELL scary! Also, nobody likes dirty pillows. Plus, it was written by Stephen King, who is a Horror writer, and the book is listed as being in the Horror genre. (Wikipedia says so, it must be true.) In all seriousity, does a film have to be scary all the way through to be considered horror? Aren't some of the best horrors slow burns with a big payoff?

Just Plain Bob

Oh, well, Wikipedia. Clearly I’m wrong. I really like the movie, it’s a good book and a very well made film. But not horror. As for King being a horror writer, he’s really been pigeonholed. He’s certainly done his fair share of horror, but some of his best stuff is pure drama. Shawshank Redemption, Green Mile, Apt Pupil, Running Man (the story not the movie), Stand By Me, The Dead Zone - all are good stories with worthy film adaptations and none of them are even a little bit scary. As to your last point, I agree that it doesn’t need to be horror on every frame. But I still don’t think Carrie qualifies. Melodrama with some suspense thrown in. But, if I’d seen it when I was a kid, I wouldn’t have been scared.

Coleton B.

But Cole, the point is this; If you tell Mr. Foster you REALLY disagree with him on something, even if you're rude about it, Tyler is going to respond to you with his honest opinion. That opinion will be well thought out, thorough, unforgiving and succinct. He'll do this without being petty, without being crass or rude, without resorting to personal attacks or childish rhetoric. He won't play the victim because you disagree with him, even if he thinks you're truly incorrect and he won't throw a tantrum if you try imply that he's wrong. He'll simply respond with respect and carry on. Some folks lately, it seems can't even muster the courage to exhibit SOME of this integrity. I would think you were simply extending him some of the respect he has always shown by knowing in your head you disagree and simply choosing not to engage. Just my $0.02

Coleton B.

Tyler I meant you NOT REFERRING to it as the Assembly cut which is unofficial :D

Coleton B.

Chuck, if you don't mind; please refrain from posting political comments, as stated in the rules you agreed to when joining this community. Sorry about that!

Chuck Schuldiner

I promise I won't say anymore about this but I was talking about the person not his politics as I didn't agree with everything he said. Ok done.

Richard Maurer

Where are all these rude people making personal attacks? I mean I got called rude for letting someone know that Cassie had watched Karate Kid already and that it wasn’t really a Halloween film ( op said it should get a Halloween reaction) some people can’t take hearing anything they consider negative, and consider any dissenting opinion a “insult”. But let’s turn that around, why are people allowed to post positive opinions about films I don’t like? Why are they being rude to me? Why are they insulting me with their positivity? - sounds silly when you turn it around, doesn’t it? So why isn’t it just as silly in the opposite?

Coleton B.

I understand and thank you for being kind and mature about this. These conversations simply have a way of derailing, often and easily and it's best to not engage in the first place, hence the rule. So sorry for the trouble!

Chuck Schuldiner

Yeah I understand just wanted to give condolences to someone who just got horrifically assassinated. I don't like it when people pass away in this manner. Honestly not trying to stir up contention. Take care.

Richard Maurer

100% agreement on your poll picks Bob, Now the hard part, getting them to actually happen :-)

Chuck Schuldiner

True. But not all are crazy shocking. Still remember when Dimebag Darrell was assassinated on stage almost 21 years ago. Still shocking to me today.

crazyivan

ummm, thoughts and prayers?

Zac

I don't know why this movie popped into my head, but has anybody else seen Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter? I feel like that could be a good not too scary movie for Cassie, lol

Mike Lemon

I tried to get it watched for Presidents' Day. I think that was the holiday, but it might have been some other one.

Tyler Foster

This made me curious, so I did some poking around, and it looks like this name does come from the DVD booklet included in the Alien Quadrilogy DVD set, so I actually think it is official...although I was surprised to learn it's not used on the Blu-ray menus, which I could've sworn it was.

Tyler Foster

If I recommended horror movies solely on whether or not they scared me, I would never recommend any of them. I don't think it's weird to want horror movies to be scary, of course, but I also think "horror" can encompass a conceptual idea of "fears." To pick from the movies already mentioned, if someone was arguing The Running Man was a horror movie, I'd agree that's a stretch. but I think even if you don't get scared by Carrie, it wouldn't be strange to describe the story of the movie as "a horror."

Just Plain Bob

The fact that I don’t find Carrie to be frightening isn’t why I don’t classify it as horror. I never thought the Universal or Hammer Studio classics were scary. But they clearly included material intended to be frightening. I don’t see that with Carrie. There’s no monsters, psychopathic killers, ghosts, demons, etc. Just bullies. Horrible bullies, to be sure. But at no time is Carrie in danger. She is the danger. And, when she lashes out, it’s not frightening. The jump scare is a classic. The movie is well made and I like it. But I can’t see anything in it that the average ten year old would find frightening.

Richard Maurer

^Guess this comment went over your heads.^

Tyler Foster

Just Plain Bob: Well, let me put it another way. Multiple times, I've encountered people in the comments and Discord saying they would never and don't support Cassie watching anything she knows in advance she will enjoy, like a rom-com, because they still think, years in, despite all the evolutions of the channel, that the core mission statement is to "get her outside of her comfort zone." Clearly that means different things to different people. "Shock therapy" is probably overstating it, but I do think there is this belief that every movie she picks should be the cinematic equivalent of jumping straight into a lake on a cold day. My POV is that all that matters is she watches great movies. Even seeing a different kind of rom-com than she's used to makes her enjoyment of the genre deeper. Richard: I think that gets to the root of it. If you don't care about the obvious difference between someone excited because they're happy and someone complaining, often directly to the excited person, that they disagree, well, I don't know what to tell you. I mean, really, why *wouldn't* there be a difference? It's a pretty miserable world out there sometimes, and of course that's on top of the day-to-day grind. Not surprising that people don't want to then go online and find an opportunity to celebrate a movie that's special to them and get challenged on it by a bunch of random people they don't even know. How would you feel if a YouTube channel was launched refuting and picking apart all of Cassie's reviews? I don't think YouTube is a private conversation. It also strikes me as funny becuase wasn't JPB just lamenting the fact that he is passionate about horror but people keep arguing with his picks?

Chris Thom

I remember seeing that at the book store. Totally forgot they made a movie of it. Pride and Prejudice vs. Zombies is also a thing. Lol

Richard Maurer

Tyler - Could you imagine how these comments sections would be if people only made positive comments? And by that I mean how BORING they’d be? You’re happy to support people who make positive comments about films yet you apparently think other people shouldn’t express the fact they dislike that film. All that would accomplish is making everyone, including Cassie and her team, think that everyone is fine with every film that happens to win a poll, when if you read the comments section you can see that isn’t the case. And if my comments, the ones where I express my dislike for a film ( because many of my comments were favorable about other films) , are upsetting to someone, isn’t that on them? If you can’t handle someone not liking a film you like, maybe the comment section isn’t for you? Because it’s been expressly stated (by Ben) that it’s okay to negatively comment on movies, as long as no personal insults are made, which I’m careful to avoid. If the time ever comes where we’re told we can no longer make negative comments here about movies I would stop making any comments at all, and I wouldn’t be alone. There’ s literally no point to a comment section where only positive comments are allowed.

Brad

Ditto, buddy. Such a good, young man. I didn't watch a lot of his stuff, but I experienced enough to know he did good things for all those young people.

Cole Jennett

How many people just gave up on commenting because they were tired of their opinions being picked apart? No way to know really, but I’d be willing to bet it’s more than the number who would stop commenting because it was too positive of a space.🤷‍♂️

Richard Maurer

Cole - It boils down to are we following the rules here, which we are. If we weren’t one of you mods would have told us we need to stop by now. This idea that comments are being made on other peoples positive comments is quite exaggerated anyway. If you actually look at the “negative” comments I personally made about Scream 2 they were largely on either my own posts or the posts of other people who also were negatively commenting on Scream 2. One comment I made was on a post that was calling me out for voicing my opinion on S2. Maybe three comments I made were on posts that actively supported S2 and those posts weren’t particularly confrontational. I don’t see why I, or anyone else, should be shamed here for expressing our opinions, just because they don’t go along with the majority. Especially since we are in fact following the rules.

Mark Daniels

It may not win but I love the fact that Doctor Sleep is on the radar. I know when you eventually watch it there will be plenty of objectionable stuff that hurts the heart to see. And it aims to and successfully captures the creep of The Shining at times. But there’s also some greatly loveable stuff that goes on that anyone can appreciate. I have many favorites depending on my mood, but The Shining has to be No. 1 for me and I really appreciate this sequel and its homage to the original film.

Clarence Newman

Jon Johns. Thanks for that little insight into the discussions with Cassie about tough watches. That makes me feel better.

Clarence Newman

Mods. Go take a look at the very first post on this thread. This guy has already been warned about his avatars (there’s one on the Update post that’s since been removed - the one where Gray responds “lol I guess the mods are asleep”) We warned this guy but he has once again put up a vulgar avatar. No messing around required anymore. Just ban his dumb ass.

Stick Figure Studios

I think they lost a lot of people in that first scene. It was just not what folks wanted to see happen.

Stick Figure Studios

I don't care for RESURRECTION myself (outside of one set piece), but I respect those who do.

Clay F

I don't think "he did good things for all those young people" but he didn't deserve to be assassinated. Condolences to his family.

Clarence Newman

Why can't I see Bjorn's response on my post below? There's a "Load replies" button, but when I click it, nothing happens. I think I've seen others complain about this.

kaiielle

Might have been removed. I can't see it either.

Clarence Newman

No, it's still there, Kaiielle, and the avatar hasn't changed. There are 595 comments, so it just took me 5 minutes to load and scroll, but it's the very first comment on the thread. I know there's no danger of Cassie seeing it now, but that doesn't mean he won't post another one when she's on here reading. The guy needs to be banned.

Clarence Newman

Oh, you're talking about Bjorn's message, ok. Makes sense. He was probably promoting Show Me Love again, and we don't condone repeat suggestions of the same movie here. I would never do it.

Gray

Yeah I'm surprised he hasn't been banned he's changed his profile pic 3 times now each being explicit.

bgb1975 (Brian)

I don't believe that Chuck's comment is political.

bgb1975 (Brian)

Hmm.....don't really have any feelings about this poll. Vote for sale! Any takers?

Chris Thom

Not to be a downer, but if you don't see some replies it might mean that user has blocked you.

Clarence Newman

Brian. I'll take your Pick-a-Flick vote, please. Or you can just vote for Papillon.

Clarence Newman

Nope, that doesn't work. Me and Richard blocked each other months ago.

Clarence Newman

And besides, if you block someone, you don't see their posts, so how could Bjorn have responded? Plus which, me and Bjorn are tight.

Mike Lemon

It wasn't, but some of us can't say anything that *could* turn political in the future. Others get a free pass to say anything political they want.

Dean Holt

Unsurprisingly it looks like Scream going to win, but personally I’d be very happy if Cassie reacted to the top 4 if it finishes with Cloverfield, Doc Sleep & Blade all being there.

Richard Maurer

You know, it’s not really our fault about the negativity. If they’d stop putting bad films in the polls…….just sayin’ Jk ;-)

Richard Maurer

Anything that would get Dr. Sleep reacted to I’m for.

Richard Maurer

Maybe he removed it himself after he realized who he was talking to.

Clarence Newman

That would be heinous. I am nothing if not lovable.

Joe J

Good bet she'll watch the Top 2. She's more than happy Doctor Sleep is not winning, lol.

Milton Reduxed

I clicked all the way down hoping to see a pair of knockers, imagine my disappointment...

Blaze118

He probably could keep up if he wasn't so focused on consistently talking about (correction) hating on Scream 2, "numbered sequels" and talking about how "The best films in the poll never wins" But I guess we all have our hobbies

Just Plain Bob

Tyler, when did I lament “the fact that he is passionate about horror but people keep arguing with his picks?” I don’t remember doing that. Not once. And I don’t see any posts where I did so. I disagreed with them and stated my opinion, giving reasons why I believe what I do. That’s what adults do when they disagree; debate and give reasons for their opinion. They don’t try to shut down discussion entirely. I’ve also never once seen someone say “they would never and don't support Cassie watching anything she knows in advance she will enjoy”, and I’m highly dubious anyone has said that. You seem to read a lot into what people do say, which leads me to believe you’ve done so in this case. It’s also very odd to me that a mod such as Cole will argue vehemently that people should shut up and accept bad movies rather than voice an opinion while allowing overtly personal attacks to flourish without saying a thing. That’s not moderation, it’s advocacy with an ugly edge to it. Maybe I’m wrong. Maybe this year he and the other mods will finally crack down on people saying that horror fans are “monsters” and impugning their morals, integrity and mental health. But, given the resounding silence of past years, I seriously doubt it.

Chuck Schuldiner

Would love it if she reacted to the top 3 or 4. Probably not going to happen though. Cuz then we'd get doctor sleep and blade 2. Kinda sincerely feel bad for all the ppl vehemently opposed to a scream 2 reaction. Even though I voted for it.

Just Plain Bob

Richard, to be fair, Cole is right, in a twisted logic, up is down, kinda way. There have been far too many personal attacks in these threads. You and I and other horror fans have been personally attacked frequently for advocating for movies we like. People have called others “monster” and impugned their motives for voting for or recommending movies they don’t like. They’ve questioned people’s mental health. And, by and large, the mods have greeted it with deafening silence. But, if you don’t like a movie and give your reasons, YOU’RE the problem. No personal attack, just an opinion about a movie.

Clarence Newman

No need for the sniping, Blaze. We’re joking around here. In general, debate for or against is what it’s all about. It would be pretty boring if we all agreed.

Jeff

Had to be Dr Sleep for me, one of those unexpected classics. Dare I say, like Aliens better than the original.

Vincent Ferro

I worked on DR Sleep. I was the Assistant Colorist in post.

Clarence Newman

If you’re not a mod, it’s not worth clicking down. It was clearly a cold day.

Blaze118

I'm just calling it the way I see it at this point, just as a couple others have.

Clay F

I hope she reacts to the Top 2 or Top 3, but not Top 4 or more. This is a sequels poll -- we need originals.

Richard Maurer

Sorry if you have problem with someone having a different opinion than you. But you have a nice day, Blaze!

Richard Maurer

Bob - several people with personal agendas here - that’s all I’m going to say.

Blaze118

Love how your initial comment was "I don't care". Evidently you do enough to edit it. But yes, I will have a nice day! :D

Richard Maurer

Oh I know Bob, some here want things their way and different (“negative”) opinions are not to be allowed. But unfortunately for them Ben made it clear that we can post negative opinions. He literally agreed with me when I asked if it was okay to post (movie title) sucks! on someone else’s post, you just can’t say “you suck” for liking said movie (not that I would do that, except in a joking manner). I had hoped this would be the end of this nonsense, seeing as Ben is a higher authority than any mod, but they’re trying to get around it by not specifically telling us we can’t do it, instead just making thinly veiled posts of disapproval.

Richard Maurer

Don’t agree about Aliens, do agree about Dr. Sleep, it’s better than The Shining.

Richard Maurer

Has Cassie ever reacted to a second place finisher in a horror poll? If she has I don’t remember it. 3rd place? Not going to happen.

Richard Maurer

Actually The Fly might well be the first 2nd place horror film to get watched.

Just Plain Bob

Still waiting on the Invasion of the Body Snatchers reaction that was “prom prom”ed a couple years back. The only way a second place poll finisher gets watched is if it’s a comedy or superhero movie and takes a reaction slot that might otherwise go to an actual horror movie.

Doug Fisher

🎯 Richard. Pretty common outcome... unfortunately.

Katie Jackson

I was also 13 when Scream 2 came out. I didn't get to see them in theaters but, Scream (96) was my first official horror movie. One that I actually chose to sit down and watch instead of just walking in when I wasn't supposed to and being traumatized. I watched Child's Play at about 6 from my cousins bed at a sleep over. You could see the tv through the bedroom door into the livingroom. I had porcelain dolls that my grandma got me, so I had severe nightmares. Then Pet Sematary less than a year later. Standing in my kitchen (which connected to my livingroom) in the dark behind my mom and her best friend (I was supposed to be in bed) until I screamed and my mom spent the rest of the night trying to calm me down. Scream was my first positive horror experience. I absolutely loved the first one and have always been excited for any sequel that's came out. It also opened the door for me to really start enjoying horror, and now I absolutely love it and have a large dvd collection that I grow every year, and Scream is still my favorite horror franchise (Halloween is 2nd) I do think there are several really good choices on here though and would be happy with most of them.

Katie Jackson

I think it's the difference between the app and using the browser.

Doug Fisher

Tyler, I am glad that "Alien 3" is your favorite "by a significant margin". I can't disagree with you more but I still respect your view on it. It still doesn't change what the movie is or isn't; I too love many bad movies.

Joe J

The Invasion of the Body Snatchers fiasco taught me the true cruelty of the prom, prom.😢

Chris Breisch

Hey, everyone likes what they like. I'm not trying to claim that Halloween (2018) was the greatest thing ever. Just that it was interesting for the most part and better than many of the others of the series. It did have its share of weaknesses. Why the heck were the inmates standing chained to a chessboard? And the gas station scene was gratuitous and overdone. But it tried to have a story that for the most part made sense. And succeeded to a degree much better than say, Halloween 4, 5, & 6. As for the Rob Zombie Halloween, I can't really comment on it. I walked out of the theater less than 25 minutes into the film. Maybe it got better after that. I'll never know.

Tyler Foster

Opinions are subjective; there is no "what the movie is or isn't" beyond the unambiguous facts. I find Sigourney's performance in it very moving. "I've been out here a long time" and "You've been in my life so long, I can't remember anything else" really stick with me. One thing I will note is that I have never bothered to watch the theatrical cut, as far as I know. If I did, it was one of my first viewings of the movie.

Clay F

Agree that the winner is the only guarantee for a reaction. This poll has 12 choices and she may be looking for October content, and she seems to have a focus on the idea of reacting to 'sequels' recently. I said Top 2 (unlikely) b/c would like to see her react to 10 Cloverfield. I said Top 3 (highly unlikely) b/c Doctor Sleep = gets good reviews, seen interesting discussion in comments, and Richard (and others) want it. 1. Scream 2 - 559 2. 10 Cloverfield - 519 3. Doctor Sleep - 459 4. Blade 2 - 415

Katie Jackson

I personally think that healthy debate is a good thing. Not everyone is going to love or hate the same movies, however at a certain point commenting "I hate this movie" or "this movie sucks" multiple times on several comments starts to feel less like a healthy debate and more like spamming the comment section. Since we are obviously going to have different tastes and often disagree, I think discussions like this one feel less like a personal attack to some people. It's the difference between someone running up and saying "That Movie Sucks!" and sitting down a talking about movies and why we like or dislike certain ones.

Richard Maurer

Don’t get me wrong, I’d love it if she reacted to the top 3, or even the top 2, if for no other reason than I would have something to watch (I won’t be watching the reaction to Scream 2). But seeing as we’re talking horror and the fact that there’s not any real precedent for her doing so, even the 2nd place film is highly unlikely.

Richard Maurer

Yes I cared enough when I thought of a better comment. But both my comments were technically correct - I don’t care if you have a problem with my different opinion, but I’m sorry you let such a minor disagreement bother you so much.

Tyler Foster

JPB: To be fair, I'm only talking a few people. But sometimes there will be a movie on a poll and I'll think it seems like something she won't like very much. Think any movie with brutal violence and pretty unbroken darkness, even if the movie isn't completely nihilistic (Sin City would be an example of this). I've asked a handful of people about their enthusiasm and that's been the *literal* response: saying that they always voted against Cassie watching a rom-com or something because that is her comfort zone and the whole point of the channel, in their eyes, was to push her out of it, and that they hated when those films made the polls because they weren't expanding her horizons. No reading into it necessary. Now, the key principle here is the "expanding her horizons" part. It's not that they never want Cassie to be happy, but if the movie was something she would've been open to watching before the channel, then it immediately held no interest for them. As for the other part, I was referring to: "In the next several weeks you will see repeated posts accusing horror fans of misogyny, sadism, psychopathy, attempting to harm Cassie, and any number of other crimes against humanity, God and nature. All for having the temerity to suggest films or just vote on polls." I haven't seen that. People may not like the movies being suggested, but I'd have to see some examples to believe that this isn't the same kind of exaggeration you were accusing me of. Ultimately, what it comes down to is this: not everyone is bored by a lack of debate, and my guess is that debate is not the heart of the reason most people join communities. If there are eight to ten movies on a poll and everyone is saying what the movies they like to mean to them and why, that could be a wonderfully diverse and varied comment section without anyone pushing back. Also, here we're talking about movies Cassie hasn't seen. I would be far less likely to question negativity and discussion in a post *about* a movie that she and the commenters have both seen. I will commend Richard for not replying to everyone, even if he's replying to many people. I also don't have a problem with making your own comment and subthread about how you don't like a movie. In one of the other comments on here, I used an analogy about interrupting two people outside a movie, and Richard said the difference is that they're having a private conversation. I said something else before, but the real response to that is, maybe some people think/hope they're having a conversation with Cassie, and not everyone else in the comments section.

Chris Thom

Papillon is your thing now? You switch up movie fixations like a crackhead.

Clay F

I was influenced in part by the reaching comment by Chuck below: "Would love it if she reacted to the top 3 or 4." He is trying to get to Blade 2. Even though Top 4 no realistic chance, my post was to suggest to cap at Top 3 (so to avoid Blade 2) and to limit sequels. She didn't like Blade (did get 190k views) and may be thinking to try to be more receptive with Blade 2 -- but she won't go to 4th place. In contrast, Cloverfield was one of her favs last year and thus 10 Cloverfield may be a natural progression. I agree that Top 2 and especially Top 3 are highly unlikely. But this could be a year w/exceptions b/c she may be looking for October content.

Richard Maurer

Katie - real question: would you consider someone repeatedly posting “I love this movie!” or similar comments as spamming? Or is it just being positive? Because I honestly don’t see a difference. I mean if people are repeating positive comments about a movie you hate wouldn’t you feel a need to counterbalance those comments?

Joe J

I still expect one TRICK and one TREAT poll. Last year we had (12) "scaries", but now GoT takes up (4) watch slots each month.

Richard Maurer

Tyler - everyone, and do mean EVERYONE, is primarily trying to get Cassie to watch movies they personally enjoy. Even the people who post about how “we need to pick movies Cassie will enjoy” - are picking movies they enjoy . I really don’t believe anyone is picking movies saying “ I really hate this movie but I think Cassie would enjoy it, so I’ll vote for it anyway “. If that happens at all it’s very rare. And as far as people voting for movies to “expand her horizons, that’s how we found out that Cassie likes 300, Kill Bill, Starship Troopers, Mad Max 1 & 2, etc., despite people being sure she’d hate them. Also even when it turns out that Cassie doesn’t really like a movie it can still be a good reaction, like The Crow or Sin City.

Richard Maurer

Joe - I seriously doubt that GoT will be suspended through October (as it should have been), in fact I never really thought that was option since GoT was announced. But a sequels poll to start off “Scary Season” was an unpleasant start. Cassie unfortunately seems to be becoming a series completionist, to the point where it’s even detrimental to her YouTube views - did anyone really think the Wahlberg PotA movie would do well on YouTube?

Clay F

There are 5 pairs of Thu/Fri in October, so that's 5 watch slots for GoT. She may have regretted reacting to the uninspiring Wahlberg PotA but as for views while mediocre, did beat To Catch a Thief, Bridge of Spies, Bringing up Baby, Born on the Fourth of July, Shakespeare in Love, and A Monster Calls, and esentially tied Charlie Wislon's War.

Clarence Newman

It's my Pick-a-Flick this month, Chris, and one of my all-time faves. I like to keep Cannonball Run as my relief pitcher.

Clarence Newman

Has one of the mods cancelled Free Willy yet? I really don't want to scroll all that way down again.

Dave

Several mods have reported this to Ben and to Patreon, and Ben had put the user on permanent block for the channel. At this point it is a Patreon problem, and Ben has contacted them to have the user removed.

Coleton B.

Richard; Yes she has. Trick or Treat poll from September 25th, 2024 saw Cabin in the Woods and Constantine in first and second place. Both films got a reaction, even after Cabin was placed on a tiebreaker poll. There are several others, including Arsenic and Old Lace being 4th in a Halloween poll and still getting a reaction if you use the search function and check the data for yourself.

Katie Jackson

Richard: Honestly, if it was the same phrase over and over, I would consider it spamming even if it was positive. I would hope if someone felt the need to comment on so many posts, they could comment something original. Although I do see your point that people don't tend to have the same criticisms toward positive posts due to their own biases.

Richard Maurer

Coleton - Well I was not sure one way or another , and didn’t feel like doing any research, so thank you for looking into it. I did specify a horror poll however. I’ll accept Constantine / Cabin in a the Woods since both were on a “Trick” (horror) poll. Arsenic and Old Lace, however, is not a horror film so technically doesn’t count - imo.

Björn Karlsson

Ehhhh my only reply in this thread is about Dog Soldiers and I dont think I have deleted anything 🤔🤔🤔🤔

Just Plain Bob

Tyler, please point to a single post in which the comment included someone “saying that they always voted against Cassie watching a rom-com or something because that is her comfort zone and the whole point of the channel, in their eyes, was to push her out of it, and that they hated when those films made the polls because they weren't expanding her horizons.” I haven’t seen it and don’t believe it. Meanwhile, I’ll see if I can’t find a few examples of people personally attacking people for their taste in movies. Oh, wait, here’s one example now: Regarding American Psycho, in a single day, January 8 of this year, Lulu Blue accused those that voted for it of having “serious issues”, calling them “sickos” in two other posts that same day. At the same time, Phil Stubblefield opined that people that voted for AP should “just leave” the community because they derived their entertainment at Cassie’s expense. Nim said that those that voted for AP were all just “nihilistic men” and AjR said that voters “wanted to torture a good person like Cassie.” Brian Lowery opined that AP voters did so because “they get some weird pleasure from seeing Cassie uncomfortable.” And Cliff Stephenson said that AP voters “are malicious monsters.” That’s a sample of comments on a single day about a single movie. Ironically enough, a movie I voted against. And, as much as it must upset you and Cole, I said I didn’t like the movie and gave my reasons why. But I certainly didn’t attack other commenters just because they disagreed. Maybe instead of whining because people disagree with you, you could encourage the mods to actually do their jobs and call out those that make personal attacks on people with the gall to like something they don’t or dislike something they do. Why the outrage at disagreement over a movie’s quality while completely ignoring the personal attacks?

Richard Maurer

To be fair, I don’t actually see anyone, positive or negative, spamming the exact same comment over and over. But many, on both sides, are finding different ways to basically say the same thing, many times over.

Stick Figure Studios

@Tyler: I Absolutely agree about sigourney Weaver's performance. It is heartbreaking. Some of the best work she's ever done.

Mark White

Just seen this comment thread. I would say it is ok to say you don’t like a film or even hate it. I have no problem with that. I think it’s fare to say Richard and I have quite different movies tastes and Bob as well, but I like that! I like that we are different. I like that Richard and Bob will say Cannonball Run sucks! But, I love it just as much as Clarence. But we don’t get offended. I would rather watch paint dry than watch The Texas chainsaw massacre again! But I’m sure Richard and Bob wouldn’t be offended. I think I remember Mike Lemon mentioning, once or 20 times😆, he might not of wanted Star Trek on the channel for the best part of a year! I loved Star Trek on the channel and it bought me onto Patreon. But I have no problem at all with Mike voicing that. I just don’t take it personally. In fact, I like it. It would be boring if we were all just positive about all the movies. We need the Richards and Bobs of the world to help create the debate, as well as have the banter of course😉 As for what people want on the channel and their motives. I would say I’m one of the rare ones. I don’t always want my favourite movies reacted too. Trainspotting is maybe a top 10, if not definitely Top 20 movie for me, but I know Cassie will hate it! I was nervous when she watched “there will be blood” and will be with Scarface. I don’t know why I feel like that? I just do. But most of the time I will vote for movies I want. Well you would! Sequels are another bone of contention with some. Personally I really like sequels. I like going back to the characters I know, even when I know the movie won’t be quite as good. But, I totally get why Clay, Bob, Richard and maybe a few others are not fans of most sequels and probably really dislike many. But, that’s fine. We are just different and you should be able to say most sequels suck without someone getting offended. It’s just an opinion and an opinion really shouldn’t hurt.

Dan M

Porcelain dolls always scared me when I was a kid, and they still kind of freak me out to this day. My Aunt had a painting of a sad clown over her piano in their living room that also scared the crap out of me. You know how when you walk past a big picture of a person on a wall, it looks like they’re following you with their eyes? Well, as a kid it traumatized me that this frickin’ clown was watching my every move 😂. I got over it though as I got older.

Dan M

Scream 2 and Halloween 2 are the only two movies I voted for on this poll.

Just Plain Bob

Dog Soldiers is a must see that will probably never get seen.

Tyler Foster

I wasn't whining. I didn't say I was put off by the negativity, even though I think that it is generally combative and not actually what the majority here are looking for in a community. I said that you would have to have blinders on not to realize that this is an approach that people are going to have problems with. Richard suggested that people saying they like a movie he hates ought to be viewed the same way as him saying he dislikes a movie they like, which is absurd to me. Excerpts of the comments aren't the same thing as me reading the comments themselves. The whole point in reading them was to see them fully in context and see what the tone of the conversation was. I'll look up the post, but I can't come to any conclusions off of what you excerpted because most of them sound like they were being a little sarcastic. As for Mark: The point I've been trying to make is that I really think it is a small portion of you that would believe this community would be boring without debate. There was a post that went viral recently of a woman who presented a thesis of some kind at an art gallery and met someone there, and he DMed her. The first few messages, she was pleasant and seemingly willing to make a friend, but then the guy wanted to pick apart her thesis. There were attempts to defend the guy challenging her with the idea that it showed interest in what she was talking about, but the widespread consensus was that he just picked a fight with a total stranger over something that was important to that person (and on a subject he had no background in, whereas it was her area of expertise). Again, I stick by what I said before: just imagine that the people in these comments are probably trying to say something to Cassie, and consider whether you should make your own comment rather than replying to someone else.

Just Plain Bob

No Mike. A personal attack is when you say you don’t like a movie that someone else does like. It’s against the imaginary rules. But directly insulting someone is fine, as long as their opinion is in the (perceived) minority.

Just Plain Bob

Richard, I liked the first one. That does it, I’m telling the mods on you.

Just Plain Bob

Milton, my favorite thing about the third one is a story Kevin Smith told. He said that Jason Mewes was quite taken with the craft services and receiving a per diem for each day on set. Mewes told him that they should just do bit parts and eat free and get that sweet per diem money. He tried to explain to Mewes that they got paid more as leads and could buy their own food but couldn’t seem to get Mewes to see the light.

Just Plain Bob

Got it, you think there’s a context in which calling people sickos and malicious monsters might be ok. That tells me all I need to know about your mindset right there. Look up the comments, in context, and then you can try to feed me some bs about how it was meant in a friendly way. On the upside, you have proven the futility of discussing such matters. Because honest discussion requires that you be intellectually honest. And I simply don’t see that in this case. To pretend that the quotes that I cited might be ok given context (which I provided anyway) is absurd.

Richard Maurer

Tyler - you misinterpreted what I said. What I was saying was neither side deserves special treatment, which they don’t. You may think it’s absurd but they are literally two sides of the same coin.

Just Plain Bob

Richard, I don’t think it’s worth your time or mine to continue to engage Tyler. He’s misrepresented what each of us has said and, when I gave examples (verbatim, with dates and patron names) of explicit personal attacks by some patrons, he simply blew it off as sarcasm. For whatever reason, he believes voicing a negative opinion about a movie is combative, but actually insulting fellow patrons is fine. As long as the right people are being insulted, of course.

Tyler Foster

Whether you read this or not, I found the post and am going through the comments. I don't know if it would've helped but I expected to and now agree with you that Lulu's comment is judgmental. It's a movie, it's not real. She repeats her opinion several times in reply to others too. I don't like it at all! Phil Stubblefield's comment is fine. I can't imagine either of us have never been in a community and encountered a member they wished weren't around. Maybe I'm that guy for you, now! And I'd know that was directed at me specifically, and I still wouldn't take it personally. Why would that upset me? People are allowed to not like me. Nim actually said that her opinion of the movie was that it was *aimed* at nihilistic men. i don't think that's an accurate analyisis of the film, but the difference here changes it entirely -- she doesn't even say that people who like it are nihilistic, just that it is supposedly designed to appeal to them. Aj R's comment strikes me as unremarkable hyperbole. Let's be honest. Would you not describe a rom-com as a kind of torture? There are definitely movies I'd say were torture. Brian Lowery's full comment is asking a question. He said he got a bad vibe. He's allowed to. It's a little judgmental but not what I'd call an attack. I don't know if I dislike Cliff's comments for the same reason you do, but I don't like them. This conversation has largely been about my dislike of people who are too committed to pushing Cassie out of her comfort zone. The root of that is the notion (which may be unintentional, it may not) that what she was doing before was "wrong." Sure, it would've been a mistake, in the sense that she'd have missed out on all of these other great movies, but I don't like the way "wrong" would belittle the movies she watched before. It's condescending, and I think I get that same vibe from Cliff's comment.

Chris Thom

Scream was just a really interesting mix of mainstream teen movie, scary, funny, stylish, intriguing, mysterious, and clever...even a proper warning about toxic personalities, and two-facedness. Hard to find a better intro to the genre for someone new. I think I was eleven, and the theater experience was not so much different from the opening of Scream 2. It was pretty wild. People went nuts and were yelling at the movie screen, which I'd never seen at a movie before. I immediately got addicted to thrillers and the roller coaster ride of horror. It was pretty fast. Looking back, I think my first horror experience might've been that Snow White ride at Disneyland. Lol.

Chris Thom

A sad clown portrait is hardcore. That aunt knew what she was doing to you. lol

Chris Thom

Feel like she should do Doctor Sleep just because of her storied history with The Shining. Regardless.

Just Plain Bob

Last time I’m responding to this nonsense. Because I don’t believe this is a good faith discussion on your part. You simply want to silence those with differing opinions. Re: Phil Stubblefield’s remark, pretending that someone telling you that you should leave the community isn’t an attack is nonsense. Certainly worse than saying they don’t like a movie that you do like. And your response that “People are allowed to not like me” is awful glib for someone that was lecturing previously that negative comments about a movie might make someone feel bad. Nim’s remark was clearly intended to convey that the material was designed for nihilistic men and, presumably, that’s who it would appeal to. Again, it’s intellectually dishonest to pretend otherwise. AjR’s remark was self-explanatory. He stated unequivocally that people voted for AP with the intent to harm Cassie. I suppose you can chalk any remark up to hyperbole if honesty is no impediment. Brian Lowery’s statement wasn’t a question, unless it was the most rhetorical of questions. Again, he clearly stated that people voted for AP because they enjoyed making Cassie uncomfortable. Cliff’s remark that AP supporters are malicious monsters speaks for itself. What I see is a lot of nonsensical excuse making. People should keep their proverbial mouths shut about not liking a movie because it might make others uncomfortable, yet you excuse this crap? And I’m still waiting for examples of all the times that patrons said they “always voted against Cassie watching a rom-com or something because that is her comfort zone.” But don’t bother. I don’t believe it happened and that’s why you haven’t produced examples, as I did. Btw, a quick perusal of a couple more posts yielded up these gems: Jan 31, 2025 American Psycho (YouTube edit) Mark Schamber: “What is the benefit to society for making this type of movie? Or horror movies at all? How is the suffering of others entertaining to you? What does that say about you?” January 12, 2025 Cliff Stephenson (reacting to American Psycho leading in a poll): “Apparently, part of the fun for some viewers is watching Cassie experience something, Clockwork Orange Style that is nakedly anti-Cassie.” Sept 25, 2024 Jim James: “You must be a very miserable person with a sad, empty life that you feel the need to make multiple posts just because you don’t like a movie.” To a poster that didn’t like Constantine. October 14, 2024 Story Archer: “I can’t imagine her enjoying anything about The Fly. Anyone pushing that on her is just a sadist at this point.” October 15, 2024 diego kontarovsky: “and some of us did not have cruelty normalized for us as children.” Responding to a post, in support of The Fly, that questioned the premise that people should only vote for movies that they believe Cassie will like. Oct 22, 2024 MrTickleTrunk: “Whoever is getting her to watch SAW…you need your head checked.” And, of course, there are many others. But I’m sure “need to get your head checked” is a term of endearment that needs “context.” Same goes for “cruelty normalized as children” and “sadist.” Just pals joshing around and not nearly as insulting or mean spirited as opining negatively on a movie. The end result is this. You don’t like others to express their opinion if it differs from yours. Too bad. Until they change the rules, I’m going to say what I think. Unlike those you defend, I will endeavor to do so respectfully. You, Cole and any others that don’t like it will just have to suck it up.

Mark Vaderr

I'm hoping that Cassie only watches one movie from this poll, although I could live with two, and then the rest can be more original content. There are lots of good horror/thrillers out there for her to see. Cassie got lots of suggestions from us during the last package opening, and not all of them are movies that would give her nightmares.

Clay F

+1 for originals. As a general rule, say "no" to sequels. She will have nightmares from the content she reacts to this October (next month). The question is will the nightmares stick?

Clarence Newman

Bjorn Man showing willy on internet......Dog Soldiers. OK, I see how you got there.

Clarence Newman

Halloween 2 is coming, but it's coming sloooow. If only deranged stalkers would break into a run now and then.

Richard Maurer

It’s not like they have 9-5’s to get to Clarence. They like to live their lives at their own pace. Take time to smell the roses, so to speak.

Richard Maurer

The only movie that ever gave me nightmares was Dawn of the Dead (78), the first zombie movie I had ever seen. Gave me ‘chased by zombies’ dreams for years afterwards. But I watched that film at least 2 dozen times after the first time I’d seen it. For many years it was my favorite film of any genre.

Richard Maurer

You should keep Cannonball Run on permanent ‘injured reserved’.

Clarence Newman

I can do nothing until Cassie picks him in the draft.

Clarence Newman

Kind of hope this thread ends here. Katie and Richard have pretty much nailed it in the last few posts anyway. As long as no one is targeting an individual, vive la difference! Films are fair game.

Richard Maurer

Bob - you’re right, this discussion is fruitless. Coming to an agreement isn’t possible when neither side can find common ground on the fundamental basis of the disagreement. One side seems to be saying that negative opinions on movies are harmful to people who like these movies (?). I have to admit I’m not even sure if I’m representing their argument correctly as it seems to defy logic in my view. How can we argue/discuss/debate - a term used in the FAQ - about movies if only positive opinions are allowed. As I’ve said before and still believe this comment section would wither and all but die if negative comments about movies were banned. Fortunately, Cassie and Ben seem to understand that.

Richard Maurer

Absolutely not. Your reading comprehension skills leave a lot to be desired.

Clay F

You guys have piqued my interest about Dr Sleep.

Richard Maurer

Because of certain ongoing discussions here I want to quote the Patreon rules from the FAQ post: “It’s okay to have different opinions on movies/shows, and you’re free to debate/argue/discuss your points ALL DAY LONG, but there’s no harassing or name-calling other patrons. This obviously doesn’t include friendly banter”. I have been through this comments section multiple times and have seen nothing that violates this rule in even the broadest interpretation. No one enjoys hearing that other people dislike a movie they like, but at the same time no one enjoys hearing that people like a movie they dislike. Can I suggest that if someone’s opinion on a film, for or against, really bothers you that much, maybe just don’t read their posts? Because that person has a right, as expressed in the rules, to give their opinion, and give it multiple times if they so wish. Hopefully we can move on from this as the rule is rather definitive. (somehow I doubt it though)

Milton Reduxed

Do all those patrons calling you a fanny count as friendly banter? It's such a fine line...

Richard Maurer

Milton - did you read the rule? It would depend on the context. It’s pretty easy to tell when someone is just having fun, and when they’re being openly hostile - like you are right now, based on the previous comments you’ve made on posts I commented on. Edit: I don’t recall anyone calling me a “Fanny” but it would make me laugh if someone did.

Mike Lemon

*unless "we" don't like your opinion, then shut your pie-hole you fanny.

Tyler Foster

I don't know why you wouldn't believe this is a good faith discussion. I responded to your points honestly; disagreeing with you is not bad faith. I genuinely do not think someone saying they wished a type of person was not part of the community constitutes an attack. Again, you may wish *I* was not part of this community, you could tell me to my face, and I think it would be completely absurd to think that was an *attack* on me, or take it personally. You disagree with me, on things you seem to think are fundamental, it'd be totally normal for you to wish I were in some other comment section. And of course, I also know that you wishing me away is based on your perception of me, which I don't agree with. I take it as your opinion, which is not an attack or personal in the sense that you're trying to hurt me with it, it's just how you feel reading my posts. Yes, I agree with your assessment of Nim's comments, and that assessment is what made me say it was fine. She's critical of the movie or the source material. It does not follow that because, say, a baseball movie is designed for sports fans that everyone who likes it is a sports fan. A movie could be designed for nihilistic men and still be of interest to people who aren't nihilistic or men. It's a comment directed clearly and completely at the *art.* I didn't chalk "any" remark in that first group of comments up to hyperbole. I chalked a specific one up to hyperbole. And you ignored my question: you've never described a movie as "torture" to sit through? C'mon. Brian's statement was literally a question. It started with "Why do I feel like...?" (And FWIW, one guy responded, either to him or to another one of your comments, first reply, that he was correct: that user explained point blank that they wanted to see Cassie jump.) As for the others: • Mark - I agree with you, this is a judgmental comment that I don't think is necessary • Cliff again - like I said, someone in your comment section replied point blank to a statement like this and said, "yeah, that's my goal." Even if I don't agree with Cliff, those people exist and he is not out of line to say he doesn't like people thinking that way. • Jim - Mean-spirited and unequivocally personal as it even says "You" in it, but I would still like to see how the conversation went -- was this the tone of where he started or is this where he ended up, and if it's the latter, how'd he get there? • Story Archer - I disagree with this statement, but again, it's an opinion. Don't know why anyone would take it personally. • Diego, MrTickleTrunk - you can add these to the list of comments I'd call standard unremarkable hyperbole I also didn't say people should tone down the negativity because it might make people "uncomfortable." I was just saying there are some people who seem to think the *only* sign of a good community are those who enthusiastically dive into the "argue" and "debate" options that Richard mentioned, but that's not how everyone feels, and I hope that anyone being argued and debated with are *inviting* this behavior before anyone just dives into it. I don't know why you think I'm trying to silence dissent. You don't get into a long back-and-forth like this because you're *not* interested in having a discussion. Regardless of whether or not you'd say the same thing about me, I don't wish you weren't in the community. I just hope you're being open to the idea that there's more than one way to make a community better, and that the classic struggle of building a community is figuring out how to find balance when some people's ideas of what makes a good one directly contradict someone else's. (Also, it should be noted: even though the subject is the comments themselves instead of movies, we're having an argument/debate right now, one you seem set on ending despite your interest in argument/debate. I have a genuinely different opinion of those comments than you, and I'm defending that position.) In the spirit of balance, maybe hyperbole like the kind used above *should* be taken off the table. I personally still think of it as something like way "I'll kill you" is used in 12 Angry Men, which is something people say every day and don't mean literally, but if these sorts of comments are really that upsetting to you, then I'll support the idea that the mods could potentially discourage it. However, I also think a proper compromise would also involve you meeting the people who think being vocally negative about movies in the polls in the middle, so that neither group's experience of this community is a negative one. If I find the replies I got, I'll let you know. I only occasionally participate in Patreon comments, so it's harder for me to remember the specific movies that made me ask that question, and then figure out what post the comments were on and find the exchange. You were, unsurprisingly, in the comments on the post you cited and responded to some of them directly, so you have a better memory of when they happened and what movie they were about. (I can say, the posts I would've commented on would've been one where a more "classic Cassie" movie was up against something pretty far out of her wheelhouse, and the clear winner was going to be the latter. These are not the movies, but for example, something like a poll where Sin City were up against Return to Me, and everyone was voting Sin City.)

Cole Jennett

I will be the first to say that this isn’t my genre, but I definitely overlooked the popularity of 10 Cloverfield Lane. I’m sure there a lot of non horror genre fans voting on the poll, so I’m not surprised that Scream 2 is winning based on familiarity, but I wouldn’t have thought the same would go for 10 Cloverfield Lane. I actually thought Split would be compete for the top spot based on comments through the years.

Just Plain Bob

It was disappointing, to say the least, to see a mod opine that people should not share their opinions if those opinions were that a movie was bad. Particularly given how the mods have given free rein to some to continually insult others on a personal basis. But discouraging discussion of the quality of a film really takes the cake. The mod in question even suggested that people might have quit the forums because they were upset that people didn’t like the movies they liked. How about the people that decide to quit participating in film discussions because one of the mods makes it clear that their opinion IS NOT WELCOME? Filmmaking is an art. People disagree about art, including whether it’s good or bad. If people can’t voice an opinion that a movie is bad, this whole thing just becomes a pep rally.

Cole Jennett

For proper context. Exact quote of what I said. “How many people just gave up on commenting because they were tired of their opinions being picked apart? No way to know really, but I’d be willing to bet it’s more than the number who would stop commenting because it was too positive of a space.🤷‍♂️ “ Not sure I’m quite the villain I’m being made out to be. I’ve been a mod for like a month, I still feel I’m allowed an opinion after four years of being here as a subscriber.🧐 But either way, I’m not talking about this again, just tired of being gaslit.

Richard Maurer

Cole - it’s seems a little odd to me that mods are stepping in and taking sides in a discussion where according to the FAQ rule that I posted above neither side is apparently violating any rule at all. I say apparently because, hear me out, according to the rules above wouldn’t anyone involved in trying to suppress patrons from giving their negative opinion of a movie be violating those rules? I mean we can’t “ debate/argue/discuss” our “different opinions on movies/shows” if only the positive side is freely allowed to express their opinions, can we? And before you or anyone else says negative comments suppress positive ones, tell me exactly how. How does my saying “I don’t like this movie and here’s why” stop anyone saying they like this movie, here’s why? Actually read through these comments and you will see there are way more positive comments about movies than negative ones. So apparently there’s more likely to be suppression of negative comments than positive ones here.

Nick Ireland

I think some non-Scream fans have voted for Cloverfield in an attempt at sabotage!

Nick Ireland

I think some of you might be spending too much time online.

Richard Maurer

Let’s all go touch some grass (except me, I already touched some yesterday)

Richard Maurer

I would have voted for 10 CL anyway, but Dr. Sleep was my first choice

Cole Jennett

Good point. I’m sure you are right.

Mike Lemon

"I think I remember Mike Lemon mentioning, once or 20 times😆, he might not of wanted Star Trek on the channel for the best part of a year!" I will not stand for that lie... I said it far more than 20 times.

Clarence Newman

I love the jousting. This place would be diminished without it. And i don't care at all if someone expresses dislike for one of my favourite movies. (which is lucky for me because my films get WELL bullied!) I accept that opinions vary and things may not be as they seem. In the immortal words of Alex Rieger, "While it's true that all blackberries are black, not all black berries are blackberries."

Just Plain Bob

Clarence, good point. Also, Cannonball Run still sucks.

Richard Maurer

MOWING! I was taking about mowing the lawn…….

Just Plain Bob

Clarence, for a deranged stalker that runs, check out “Behind the Mask: The Rise of Leslie Vernon.” If you don’t like it, I’ll submit Cannonball Run as my pick next month. If you do like it, you submit World’s Fastest Indian again.

Richard Maurer

Bob! Don’t trust him, he’ll lie and say he hates it just to get you to pick CR. i know from experience he’s like that.

Clarence Newman

JP Bob. World's Fastest Indian also suuuuuuuuuh..... World's Fastest Indian is shhhhhhheeeeeeeeaaaaahhh.... World's Fastest Indian is utter creeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee-UR-UR-UR-UR! The pen is blue. The pen is blue! THE GODDAM PEN IS BLUE!

Just Plain Bob

Richard, I must admit to a certain morbid curiosity regarding a possible Cassie reaction. It would be like Howard the Duck times The Room to the power of Plan 9 from Outer Space. My imagination conjures up something that Tom Savini once said about going to theaters to see movies for which he did the effects. He said he liked to focus on one person in the audience and watch the evolution of their heart attack over the course of the movie. It’s hyperbole, of course, but I’d imagine it would be something like that.

Clarence Newman

4,060 votes! That's about a grand more than normal, ain't it?

Stick Figure Studios

@Clay: I really like DR SLEEP a lot and I didn't think I was going to. I would not go so far as to say it's better than THE SHINING, but it is much better than it had any right to be and it made me a Mike Flanagan fan.

Richard Maurer

Clarence, you posted this on the wrong thread. Nice going.

Clay F

This is not my genre. She liked Cloverfield (2008). Seemed to be one of her favs last October. Cloverfield (2008) = my fav last October. She absolutely hated Scream (1996) when she reacted to that in 2023. She was not a fan of Blade last October. Glad that Blade 2 is a distant 4th. 10 CL received good reviews from both critics and audience, and was a significant box office success, grossing $110+ million on a budget of just $15 million, making it a profitable film for Paramount Pictures. The film opened to $24.7 million 1st weekend and performed well, demonstrating financial viability of its compact, secretive marketing strategy. 10 CL was my top choice from the very beginning. As I commented below during the initial moments of the poll, the only two I voted are 10 CL and 28 Weeks Later. 10 CL is a good quality movie. Well produced. Well acted. I was glad to see that 10 CL was competitive but wasn't necessarily surprised (though not implying that I am an expert in this genre). While admittedly I never intend to watch a Scream sequel, that didn't fit into my decision to vote 10 CL. Though I have since promoted 10 CL as potential-winning alternative to Scream 2. Maybe she will react to top 2.

Chris Thom

I don't know but 754 comments on a two and a half day old post. Congrats to PIB. Make that bank.

Chris Thom

Pretty film to look at. Was just looking up all the filming locations for the original Shining. Not sure how they did the main set for Dr. Sleep but they did a good job capturing it.

Mark Vaderr

Horror movies are very popular, and people love Cassie's reactions to them. Scary not too Scary October has also given the channel a significant bump in subscriptions. Newcomers will also check out previously watched thrillers from Cassie.

Joe J

Heads up, fellow reactor Jen Murray will endure "Evil Dead" (1981) this week...keep her in your prayers.😆

Clay F

I agree w/Richard. Thanks for posting that rule. We all know that name calling (other than banter) is not good. As for providing positive and negative feedback, I have been trained for almost 40 years to do that, first as an engineer and then as an attorney. I know that work is not the personal arena but I have been conditioned to view expressing of both sides (positive and negative) as a 'positive' space - a beneficial exchange, especially if done reasonably. To some, maybe Cassie and Cole (who I like), that may seem to create a too stressful or intimidating environment. Patrons can't take it too personally, no matter what they think about a movie. Ideas shouldn't be supressed b/c some patrons are too sensitive -- I am glad the rule seems to support that. The PiB Patreon community amount of discussion and free flow of ideas attracts patrons I think.

Mark Vaderr

She survived Arachnophobia, she can handle anything now.

Chuck Schuldiner

Wish Cassie would react to that and the sequel.

Joe J

When I watched 10 CL I was like ....well this is not at all what I signed up for. 😕

Andres Gaytan

She should speak to The Accountant

Clay F

She didn't do well on The Exorcist, Halloween, or The Shining, but I commented were good reactions.

Clay F

Multiple voting with more choices than typical.

Chris Thom

Remake was pretty solid too. No Bruce Campbell...but plenty of blood.

Clay F

She liked Cloverfield (2008). Seemed to be one of her favs last October. She absolutely hated Scream (1996) when she reacted to that in 2023. She was not a fan of Blade last October. Glad that Blade 2 is a distant 4th.

Chris Thom

I never really thought of 10 Cloverfield as a horror movie.

Chris Thom

I thought it was alright. I like how each movie is centered around different sets of fears and hang-ups. First is a classic though.

Cole Jennett

Way more choices to choose from and no limit on how many you can vote for makes this a pretty unique poll, and definitely would account for a lot of the difference from usual.

Cole Jennett

I never really thought of the first movie as horror, but this season has taught me a lot that I don’t know about what is and isn’t considered horror, ha

Mark Daniels

Come on people, get Doctor Sleep up over 500 at least…The Shining was one of Cassie’s best reactions ever

Chris Thom

Ever since I was a kid I always thought of it as Horror, and Horror-adjacent. Underworld is definitely Horror Adjacent. Scream series rides the line but the gnarly deaths tip it over into horror. Zodiac was right on the line. Silence of the Lambs is the rare Horror Drama. Just the fact that it has so many awards it kind of becomes a hard drama in my view. But yeah it's all debatable.

Kawaii Leonard

Having seen Weapons recently, and it's one of the best movies this year, for me. Wondering if we can get it on a poll this October?

Chris Thom

Probably just going to get more ornery with 1/3 of the channel being GOT. More competition for those other two spots. But still I think we should try to not actively try to destroy other people's enjoyment of whatever. It's a fine line though. But just a general attempt to not be overtly abusive should be enough. But yeah it's going to get a bit testy with less available spots. We all have to accept that because it's inevitable.

Chris Thom

She was talking about it earlier. It might already be on the list. But not sure. I know Sinners is.

Alex

I would have been happy with Scream 2, Halloween 2 or Cloverfield. But Scream got my vote, glad it won :)

Clarence Newman

Don’t listen to Richard, Bob. I’m a man of integrity. Against my better judgement, I watched your Behind The Mask movie last night. Utter ka-ka, I’m afraid. Worst movie ever. That’ll be one Cannonball Run, please. And do not try and test me with a quiz about the movie, because me and Wikipedia will burn you down.

Richard Maurer

Chris - how does my not liking a movie “destroy other people’s enjoyment”. If someone can’t enjoy a movie they like because some other random person doesn’t like it, they must not have liked it very much in the first place. Go to Cassie’s Sin City or Thunderbolts reactions to see movies I like get trashed. But so what? I still enjoy those movies as much as I did before, I don’t really care what anyone besides me thinks of them. And “to not be overly abusive” implies personal attacks were made, which they weren’t, as far as I know it isn’t possible to abuse a movie.

Clarence Newman

Jen Murray's always in my prayers, Joe. "Dear Big Guy. Can you please make Cassie watch some of the films Jen Murray reacts to."

Richard Maurer

Evil Dead (81) is another movie, like the Fly, that people overrate for just how extreme it is. While I love the movie, It wouldn’t break my top 25 for either scariness or grossness. And that’s not even including the really super extreme stuff. Take a movie like Terrifier - much more extreme than Evil Dead. I could see Cassie watching Evil Dead and not having too much of a problem with it.

kaiielle

Yeah, free members being able to vote and comment will certainly increase activity.

Richard Maurer

It’s all debatable, but I know it when I see it. For me “horror adjacent” means the adjacent part outweighs the horror part. Horror adjacent has several subcategories - horror comedy (Scream, Army of Darkness, Tucker & Dale etc), Action horror (The Mummy (99), Underworld, Blade etc) kid’s horror (Monster Squad, Hocus Pocus, etc), and suspense thrillers (Silence of the Lambs, Saw, Se7en, Zodiac, etc). The one thing they all have in common is that they’re not real horror movies and don’t belong on a “Trick” (horror) poll. Monster movies (Godzilla, Cloverfield, Pacific Rim, King Kong) I consider horror movies, but in a distinct sub-genre of horror. To better explain, I would consider monster movies unsuitable as “Trick” (true horror) movies, but fine for“Treat” (horror lite) movies.

Just Plain Bob

Don’t want to rehash this whole thing again but Richard is obviously 100% correct. It would be nice if mods focused on people in these threads that actually make personal attacks, rather than people that have the gall to dislike a movie. Also, question: If Cassie dislikes a movie I like, can the mods give her a stern talking to?

Thom

where conjuring

Cole Jennett

It’s a sequels poll and she hasn’t done the original.

Joe J

What...non-payers can vote on polls? Does Cassie need a $1.00 tier or something, lol. People need to pay to play!

Clarence Newman

Shirley not. Shirley one cannot wander in and put down their two cents worth without putting down their two cents. Isn't that how we got Howard The Duck? I am holding on to the theory that the higher vote count is because of multiple voting.

kaiielle

Sometimes reactors will choose to open up certain polls to everyone and not keep it just to paid members like norm. Maybe Cassie is starting to do this. Edit: Clarence, if you open this post up in Incognito / not logged in, you can see all one has to do to access this poll is join for free. If it was a paid poll, it would have the $.

Clarence Newman

OK, thank you Kaiielle. I don't have a problem with that on horror polls because I'm no particular fan, but if Cool Hand Luke ever gets on a poll, I want it restricted to paying customers I've softened up with a bribe.

Richard Maurer

Clarence - I have a problem with it on horror polls. May be that’s why we got stuck with Scream 2

Mike Lemon

I don't know what is more embarrassing, Clarence making the joke or nobody continuing it... and don't call me Shirley.

LukeG84

Sweet, Scream 2 actually won. It got pretty close there for a while, and I'm so used to movies I vote for losing! I must confess, I really didn't think Cassie would be willing to watch another Scream movie. That's why I voted for it over Split, which is my pick-a-flick vote. I really think Cassie will grow to love these characters, and the who's-the-killer aspect of this franchise if she sticks with it. 🙏🏻 P.s. I hope Cassie rewatches the first movie beforehand, or at least a recap. It's been a couple of years since she reacted to the first one after all!

Chris Thom

The opening has a fun meta recap baked into it. I think when she sees Sidney and Randy again she'll remember the basics of what went down.

Just Plain Bob

For anyone that likes the meta moments/references to other horror movies, as epitomized by Randy’s soliloquies, check out “There’s Nothing Out There!” It came out four or five years before “Scream” and features a Randy-esque character that is well versed in horror movies and tries to warn the others what to expect. It’s VERY low budget, with a thread bare plot and high school drama club quality acting, but I think it’s fun/charming.

Chris Thom

Sounds interesting. I've heard New Nightmare had some of that. Wes Craven's movie a couple years before. I still haven't seen it.

Just Plain Bob

There have been several, dating back to at least the early 80s. But “There’s Nothing Out There!” is the most on-the-nose Randy type character I’ve seen. So much so that I suspected they ripped the character off when I first saw the movie. But it’s so obscure that I doubt they were even aware of its existence, much less saw it. I don’t remember how I stumbled across it, other than I used to spend a lot of time on a couple of horror movie websites, so maybe I heard about it there. Regardless, I liked it enough to buy the blu ray.

Stephen Dias

I have not seen the second Scream movie. That's not the one with Jay and Silent Bob, is it? I think that's #3. Kinda surprised I haven't seen that one.

LukeG84

It’s insane you skipped 2. These movies need to be watched in order, especially the first time round. Yes, Scream 3 is the one with Jay and Silent Bob. And now I’m thinking Cassie absolutely must watch Clerks, Mallrats, Chasing Amy, and Dogma before watching 3. Don’t you agree? 😁

Clay F

Yeah, with as much as she hated the first Scream, I thought the Scream franchise was dead on the channel. Including Scream 2 in the poll shows how much she is willing to do for her patrons wanting another Scream, and I think maybe she feels she has evolved over the last 2 years and thus willing to give another Scream a try.

Chris Thom

Also has a really fun cameo by a certain princess. Don't want to spoil it on the (fairly unlikely) chance she goes on to three. Parker Posey was also pretty funny.

Chris Thom

Scream had a meta, very, very dark humor to it. Scary movie moved that humor to complete absurdity.

Seán Ó Corráin

On the upside, after scream 2, she can watch Scary Movie so it'll all be worth it lol.

Clarence Newman

Once again, Mike, I am misunderstood in my time. Clearly, I was suggesting by way of subliminals that Cassie watch Airplane 2, which, as this is a Horror poll, I could not do directly. As soon as she finds out Captain Kirk is in it, she'll put it straight on the schedule. Shirley.

Richard Maurer

Seeing how much Cassie loved Scream she”ll be sure to love S2 just as much - considering how it’s basically the same movie as the first one /s

Richard Maurer

Mike - for some of Clarence’s “jokes” I’ve learned to just continue like I didn’t notice them, it’s best for everyone involved.

Joe J

I think GoT is making Cassie a little bloodthirsty. She may just watch all the Scream movies now, lol.

Milton Reduxed

I like the 3rd movie as a close to the story

Ed Garland

I hope she watches Doctor Sleep, this spooky season, even though its currently in 3rd place. I think her love of Ewan McGregor will make it a little less scary for her.

Clay F

I've seen a lot of comments promoting Dr. Sleep. I am curious. Never seen it.

Richard Maurer

I think you might like it Clay. It has a more drama-like story than your average horror film.

Dean Holt

Even though I did vote for it (just think they are a bit overrated) Scream was always going to win imo as it’s just very popular. The 2nd Coverfield is completely different to the first one. Personally because I’m not really a fan of found footage films I thought the sequel was so much better also John Goodman fantastic in it. So I think Cassie would have probably liked this one the most. But I honestly wanted Blade 2 or Doctor Sleep to win. As I think they are both better than the original movies.

Rakesh

Oooff Picking cloverfield as the winner. Before alien, 28 weeks or scream 2. Tragic. For her and for the yt views. We need vetting on these polls. I want answers dammit.

Richard Maurer

Scream 2 won the poll - unfortunately.

Rakesh

better that than cloverfield lane

Richard Maurer

That’s a matter of opinion, and not one I agree with. I would have voted for any movie in this poll over Scream 2

Darren Harrison

Yes! Scream 2 won the poll. :) :) Definitely the best of the crop of movies offered.

David

teenage mutant ninja turles out of the shadows Amazing movie

Story Archer

Scream 2 won? You gotta be *expletive* me...

Clay F

Less than 1% difference between Scream 2 and 10 Cloverfield Lane.

Deke_HFX

Olympic style voting would be awesome (ie doing a 2nd poll with the top 3 voted choices only )with this many choices, albeit the process would take longer.

Richard Maurer

They don’t put as much effort into horror movie polls, In general it’s “this one won, we’ll watch this and move on”. I can only surmise that this is because Cassie really doesn’t like watching horror in the first place.

Clay F

Yes. Thanks for checking.

Brent Petty

Scream 2 is one of the ones I want Cassie to react to this October. Now just add in Train to Busan, Frailty, and Fallen.

Brent Petty

I did see Weapons. Guessing that will be on the Nope! list if it's not there already. Although the ending is kinda funny for a few minutes.

David

winner movie's are Weapons Troll Hunter Harry Potter and the goblet of fire chitty chitty bang bang ghost busters frozen empire Hulk 2003

Clay F

Hopefully, she will react to the close 2nd 10 Cloverfield Lane

Russell Major

Doctor Sleep (theatrical cut) would be a perfect review!

VooDooMaestro

10 Cloverfield Lame? Over numerous horror classics?Who is voting for this? 🤣

Vincent Grosky

Given how cass reacted to the shining, doctor sleep would be great follow up

Dylan Headley

I would say Dr. Sleep because it's such a good follow up, but there's a specific scene in it that has a known big trigger for Cassie and I don't think she'd handle it well.