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Full uncut reaction to Stranger Things Season 4 Episodes 5 and 6

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Guru_Rick_

As for Hopper's backstory, I’ve found myself in a similar situation—specifically regarding the desire to prove to one's own father that one isn't pathetic But all in all, Hopper's backstory explains quite a lot about why he appeared to have problems with alcohol and drugs use at the beginning of Season 1.

❤Mister Papa Jackツ❤

I feel like we should give the lead jock some slack and I'll list some reasons why. In the eyes of him, his girlfriend who he was openly madly in love with was just found mutilated and murdered in what he seems to think is a freak and the police won't tell me what exactly happen. So when he goes to get answers from he believes to be a group of freaks who might be with the freak who just killed his girlfriend, then after getting information I found out the person who was helping me was actually leading me on a wild goose chase to help protect the guy that killed my girlfriend. So after the funeral of my girlfriend and me and my friends began searching for the murderer and we find and chase him into the water where suddenly my friend gets what he can only perceive as a curse kill by again the guy they we were just chasing cause again this only happens when it's around him. If I was him I would totally after all of that be like "yeah this club is on some demonic stuff". Now do I agree with him from a viewer power, absolutely not he is the mini villain boss for sure but we gotta give him some slack in the hate department

Jennywocky

Episode 5 comments: That was definitely a harrowing intro, as the agent dies in the back of the van. So nicely filmed and edited. Which leads me to say I think Season 4 was a step up technically from prior seasons – I enjoyed a lot of the directing and technical choices made. For example, I was already scribbling down a note about the door in the middle of the desert right as Ken commented on it as well – We know it’s actually got width AND length (because it’s a descending stair case cover), but the way it is filmed (straight on), it looks like a cool magical door just standing alone in the middle of nowhere, like something out of Stephen King’s “The Drawing of the Three” or the door at the end of C.S. Lewis’ “The Last Battle.” When Dr. Owens turns to Eleven and says, “Apologies for the bumpy ride, kiddo,” all I could think was, “Welcome to the story of her entire life.” Can I say it’s odd to me to see Modine as an old man? I first saw him in the film “Visionquest” in the actual theater back in 1985 (that might have been the first film I had ever gone to a theater with WITHOUT being dropped off by my parents at the mall – two friends and I were bored and we decided to go see a movie). Modine was only 26 then, he would have been 63 here and looks this old IRL now too. So seeing Elle and Dr. Brenner meet again after all this time was rough all around, for reasons you both articulated well. I commented on Reiser playing Dr. Owens last time, because of his connection to the treacherous Burke from Aliens, leaving you guessing his allegiance here – and it seems he might have betrayed Eleven in turn. But as the episode unfolds, we quickly see how Owens is worried about Eleven’s health and well-being, where Brenner just seems to want to activate her. It seems more that Owens has truly been on Eleven’s side and sees her regaining her power (if she chooses that) as a way for her to protect herself and become autonomous, so dealing with the devil (Brenner) is a necessary evil to achieve that goal. Still, Eleven was violated in so many ways by this arrangement. The Nina opera(s) – after which the experiment and sensory deprivation chamber are named -- do exist. I say “operas” because the plot described by Brenner is from Dalyrac’s “Nina” work (1786), but the song playing during the episode (translated as “When my beloved comes”) is from the Paisiello work (1789) instead. HAHAHA the guard trying to threaten Mr. “I LAUGH IN ZE FACE OF PAIN!!” Hopper with … more pain. Like that matters to him. The business name “Yuri’s Fish and Fly” is just so weird and clumsy, it could almost be true. I liked hearing Ricky Nelson’s “Traveling Man” as they take off -- some shows that try to be cool (like The Umbrella Academy) end up using totally predictable music, but at least ST on occasion manages to pull out a song I wasn’t thinking about ahead of time. Mom Wheeler in her 80’s aerobics headband and Dad Wheeler in his corporate office suit – so cliché but really funny at the same time. Hey, there’s a bottle of Mrs. Butterworth’s on the table!!! So human beings are interesting in how returning to particular clothes or bodies is a way for us to also return our minds to the same state – like here with Elle imagining herself in the gown and shaved head of her childhood. Everything is connected, physical cues trigger mental and emotional states. I think this was the first appearance of Jamie Campbell Bower in his human form (aka Henry Creel)? I gotta say, despite the boo’s and hiss’s he receives once we know who he is, I thought he was just so great this season, and while he had been in some things previously, they didn’t do well – so I was happy his performance here seems to have opened some doors for him. David Harbour does give a great contemplative speech full of guilt and regret here. Glad his career has only been growing as well. The content reminded me a bit of that succinct line from the beginning of “First Blood,” when Rambo notes that his dead friend “got himself killed in ‘Nam and didn’t even know it” due to Agent Orange. These stories just seem to repeat, sadly – people in power doing things for profit or control and not caring about the long-term impact that others have to live with, all while lying about it. (Don't even ask me to look at today's news...) Sadie Sink gives another trademark Max look – “All you can see is my fierce game face, but you can still tell inside I’m really terrified and am choosing to be brave.” That stained glass rose door always reminded me of Beauty & the Beast for some reason. JIF peanut butter started using plastic jars in 1986. The setting for this story is March 1986. Probably in Russia, these jars might have been around for a few years, so Murray and Joyce benefited from that! Murray’s “I KNOW KUNG FU!” moment, honed during endless battles vs fifteen year olds, ROFL! Go Murray! The Antonov AN-2 biplane made in the USSR (Yuri’s model) did actually fly with stability, and it could even drop to 25 mph in the air apparently without stalling, whereupon I read it would start to descend at about the speed of a parachute. Go figure… So…. Black suits and white socks. Yes, it’s a TERRIBLE fashion statement… unless you are Michael Jackson, the King of 80’s Pop and the guy everyone wanted to look like!! I agree with Ken, Papa is a real cheapskate when it comes to candy rewards – he’s probably got a wad of “Bit o’ Honey” in that pocket too! YOU WANT RESULTS? THEN TIME TO PONY UP, GRAMPS! That was a great and startling cut from Eleven’s nosebleed to her bloody hands. And I agree about the flickering and shattering light bulbs in the house being a cool effect as Vecna creates Gate #3. Poor Eddie, as you noted -- once was bad enough, now he's seen this schtick twice... please, no more! And there we have the ending, as Elle recognizes she must endure Papa’s relentless shitbaggery to (re)gain the power she needs, and so comes the hand-in-hand stroll back to the lab as “When My Beloved Comes” blares through the hall. Cue credits.

Jennywocky

Yeah, I totally see from his perspective -- he's basically the epitome of American Boy, he's a jock, cute, girls love him, parents love him, the world was made for him because he is the embodiment of what that culture values and he's going to get a good job just walking along the beaten path, and meanwhile these drug-dealing freaks who play games with demons in them and living on the poor fringes of society and do things that make no sense to him seem to be involved in these horrible murders and now some kind of demonic murder happens right in front of him when they confront Eddie -- I don't think his reactions are out of line for his perspective either. It's too bad that he's wrong, but he wouldn't perceive it that way. (Honestly, Dad Wheeler is entrenched in his own inflexible world view as well, it's just he's not going around beating up people he thinks are a drag on society -- he is happy to phone the police and let them take care of it.)

Jennywocky

Episode 6 comments: Well at least Jason went full “vessel of Satan” to the police so Eddie got some cover out of that…! [Welcome to the Fish Gate... err, sorry, "Water Gate" sigh...] Yeah, I don’t buy Pringles either anymore – I don’t want to eat the entire can in one sitting. Murray and Joyce are quite the team. Winona had some great comic timing, just repeating everything Murray said... Dmitri making the sign of the cross in the courtyard is NOT a good sign. But Hopper ain’t a lot of fun at dinner parties, either, apparently… He’s such a downer! But I was glad to see him perk up and make a plan at the end, he's back in the game! When Lucas tells Max that he sees her, I think it’s something she’s wanted to hear from someone… and yet you can also see the fear in her eyes at the words. I think that is a common response, it’s like we want someone to notice us enough and care about us enough to reach out, but the same act of illumination also puts a spotlight on us, potentially also revealing our own flaws and insecurities. We feel exposed. When we let someone actually see us as who we are, will they continue to accept us? Can we trust them enough to believe they will still like what they see and won’t abandon us later? Nancy must trust Robin, she finally reveals how she’s really been feeling about Jonathan. That asylum foot chase really bonded the both of them! Alas, Jason is so close to the truth at the town meeting… and yet so far. And it’s so amazing how Christians cherry-pick Bible verses without really understanding the context of what they’ve read. Here is Romans 12:17-21 in detail (Jason only quotes the last line): 17 Do not repay anyone evil for evil. Be careful to do what is right in the eyes of everyone. 18 If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone. 19 Do not take revenge, my dear friends, but leave room for God’s wrath, for it is written: “It is mine to avenge; I will repay,”[d] says the Lord. 20 On the contrary: “If your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him something to drink. In doing this, you will heap burning coals on his head.”[e] 21 Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good. This is pretty much the opposite of how he is using the verse. Uggh, “Americantendo” sounds like a name Donald Trump would come up with. Yay it’s the Lord of the Flies house full of kid chaos -- glorious mayhem!! Cornelius is amazing. Argyle seems to have fallen pretty hard for a certain girl. Meanwhile, SOMEone’s got a crush on Dustin! (Alas, that boy’s an agnostic, her family won't approve...) Oooh, the free hour of time in the Rainbow room is a lot better than another piece of shitty stale candy from an old guy’s pocket! Papa is learning! Technically Suzie is dialing into a government computer directly, but the loose term “internet” was around even in the 70’s – it just didn’t really hit the basic form we now know it until the mid-90’s. When I was in college in the late 80’s, the easily accessible stuff was the usenet groups (kind of the precursor to online forums) + IRC (Internet Relay Chat) where you could send messages to someone at another location in the chain – kind of like texting someone from one college to someone at a different college via the terminal. Wooo, just think how much of a killing you could make as a practiced esper playing pachinko! (At least Elle has some career options.) Has Steve ever been to the Upside Down? I honestly don’t recall. When this show gets going, it does have a decent sense of humor amid some shocking sequences. The kids have also developed a decent rapport at this point as an ensemble and know how to play off each other. Woo-hoo, more viewers who enjoy Season 4 the most! :)

Definitely Not Definitive

I think though, that this is exactly why we have a justice system. Because our perspectives can be skewed and completely wrong. And hopefully if we acted violently on that wrong information we would be doing further trauma to ourselves with what I can only hope would be crippling guilt. We don’t always know everything, hard lesson for kids especially, but it’s true. And society has evolved generally to protect our lives and improve them where possible. Does it always get it right, no, and there is plenty of evolving still today. But we generally don’t condone people taking justice into their own hands because those who are emotional and suffering do not exercise sound judgement. And the Jock is a great example of why humans can’t be trusted.