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Stranger Things S4:E7 & 8 Full Reaction (Patreon)

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2026-09-12 19:00:10
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Full uncut reaction to Stranger Things Season 4 Episodes 7 and 8

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Guru_Rick_

1:01:51-1:06:28 a really well written and acted battle But as for Episode 7, the highlight is definitely Henry/One/Vecna's monologue it always gives me chills, at least but then again (no spoilers for season 5) on the other hand henry/1/vecna gives me a god complex image of himself

Guru_Rick_

Bethany IF you think the next episode is tough it's just the beginning of what's to come in

JT

man things got pretty strange there (idk i haven't watched this show since s3 ended)

Jennywocky

Damn I can't keep up with you this weekend roflmao (how dare I play WoW for eight hours instead of watching the reaction :D )

Jennywocky

that's too bad, S4 was the only one I'd rewatch. (I won't give an opinion on S5 since they haven't seen that one yet.)

Akka

So I read online that during the prison fight scene with the demogorgon, the metal beam falling after getting slammed wasn't supposed to happen, but they liked it and decided to keep it in the final cut. That demogorgon was played by someone in a motion capture suit

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2026-09-16 00:00 Episode 7 comments: Steve and the gang are so grown up now, they just lay into these bats without fear, and the camera work is nice! Classic Coke, LOL! What a misstep by Coca Cola, they brought “Classic” back in Summer 1985, and this is March 1986 so it’s the right timing. I think one thing good in this episode is that both Papa AND Henry (AKA Vecna) don’t always say false things – in fact, sometimes their words are profound. This enables us to understand why young Elle ends up trusting them… but as we find out, even bad people can sometimes grasp nuggets of honest wisdom. Papa has a really large VHS collection – maybe he oughta think about transferring some of this to 4K disc or terabyte drives, lol! Officer Callahan (the sassy cop with the moustache) is played by John Reynolds, who among other acting roles has also done some live comedy shows. He somehow manages to shine (with his comic timing) without becoming so buffoonish he becomes annoying. Lady Applejack! Come on, you’re supposed to be on your bro’s side! Stop undermining their lies! Nancy gives a really great field dressing to Steve, without ever flinching, after the bat swarm fight, and has been toughening up every season – setting herself up to become this franchise’s Sarah Connor lol! All that noise and sound in the Upside Down contributes to its creepiness – like a grating against one’s soul and putting it on par with the setting of The Mist (where odd sounds arise regularly from the obfuscating fog, hiding its monsters). Kids reach maturity by separating from their parents, establishing their own independence, if they want to be healthy – but hopefully after this separation is achieved, they will also come back together and engage as adults and that shared experience. While Elle and Hopper are separated, we can see both still caring about each other across the vast distance, not realizing the other is also missing them so badly. Murray really does a great Yuri – in fact, maybe a more batshit version. And he knows Kung Fu! Who is this guy? Papa’s punishing 002 for the abuse he’s been projecting in turn upon the other kids seems harsh, and yet in this environment that runs on dominance and control, it’s the only way to ensure the safety of the younger students. Papa made this bed, so now he’s gotta manage it. Still, that inherent violence of that system has negative resonance over time. Steve is “PURE METAL”! Here’s a case of great character development, as I remember thinking he was a douche in S1 but over the length of this story he’s grown and become a better person. We find out the Upside Down is an inversion of an older reality – in fact starting the very day Will was kidnapped into it (Nov 6, 1983). The chess set used by Elle and Henry (aka “British Birds,” with peacocks for queens) is a replica of the same set that appeared in the film “Blade Runner.” (Make what connections to the manufacture of powerful beings that you will…) Elle is only a child and easily fooled by Henry’s earnestness, but it is also because she’s just a genuinely kind person. If one is going to make a mistake like this, that’s the best way to make one. Her compassion was never at fault, she just needed more life experience to evaluate the people around her. I also think that this experience with Henry factors into her response to Papa at the end of Episode 8 – whatever he was to her, she’s not going to let Papa or sympathy dictate what is best for herself in the future. Okay, sometimes CGI is a wash – but the Demogorgon here IS utterly terrifying in the prison sequence! It was a great application of CGI (along with animating vines on Vecna’s body). Hopper is so stunned when Joyce hugs him. There are probably many reasons for this. One is that as you surmised – is she even really there? Is he just fantasizing this?? He’s also still in “fight or flee” mode and probably having someone touch him is making his skin crawl until he can switch gears. He could also be wrestling with frustration over Joyce putting herself in danger -- how he as a man’s man should have been able to save himself, he is the protector and now he was being protected and saved. But whatever the reason, I love that he eventually sets ALL of it aside, hugs her back, and allows himself to finally smile. None of it matters because Joyce is with him now. Hopper really deserves something good. Having someone come to save him is affirmation that he is indeed loved. Heny is 001, Elle is 011 – she’s twice The One that he is! :D Even before the final Vecna reveal, as Elle walks through the carnage of the complex and we see all the twisted bodies left by Henry, we can’t help think about Vecna who kills his victims in the same way. Henry, man, don’t drag down spiders with you! They deserve better! So this is my other favorite episode this season, just because of the storytelling but also the payoffs we are finally getting (multiple storylines) including Vecna’s backstory and the revision of “facts” we learned prior. So Henry isn’t completely wrong about the world and how its artificial structure often brings misery to the humans trapped within it. I was also reminded of Smith’s speech in “The Matrix” about humanity being a cancer on the planet. I think both of these ills are very obvious nowadays, in the impact of corporate behavior and social expectation on laborers, or the impact of human industrialization on the environment and natural balance of the planet. It’s more their response to these truths that leads them to become a pox in turn on the same people they are supposedly defending. They see the right truths but take away the wrong message. (Hey, let’s just throw Thanos in there as well, who in fairness envisioned a random “lottery style” system to alleviate the drain on universal resources rather than catering to the powerful or rich, but…. yup, he’s another one.)
2026-09-13 17:25 Episode 7 comments: Steve and the gang are so grown up now, they just lay into these bats without fear, and the camera work is nice! Classic Coke, LOL! What a misstep by Coca Cola, they brought “Classic” back in Summer 1985, and this is March 1986 so it’s the right timing. I think one thing good in this episode is that both Papa AND Henry (AKA Vecna) don’t always say false things – in fact, sometimes their words are profound. This enables us to understand why young Elle ends up trusting them… but as we find out, even bad people can sometimes grasp nuggets of honest wisdom. Papa has a really large VHS collection – maybe he oughta think about transferring some of this to 4K disc or terabyte drives, lol! Officer Callahan (the sassy cop with the moustache) is played by John Reynolds, who among other acting roles has also done some live comedy shows. He somehow manages to shine (with his comic timing) without becoming so buffoonish he becomes annoying. Lady Applejack! Come on, you’re supposed to be on your bro’s side! Stop undermining their lies! Nancy gives a really great field dressing to Steve, without ever flinching, after the bat swarm fight, and has been toughening up every season – setting herself up to become this franchise’s Sarah Connor lol! All that noise and sound in the Upside Down contributes to its creepiness – like a grating against one’s soul and putting it on par with the setting of The Mist (where odd sounds arise regularly from the obfuscating fog, hiding its monsters). Kids reach maturity by separating from their parents, establishing their own independence, if they want to be healthy – but hopefully after this separation is achieved, they will also come back together and engage as adults and that shared experience. While Elle and Hopper are separated, we can see both still caring about each other across the vast distance, not realizing the other is also missing them so badly. Murray really does a great Yuri – in fact, maybe a more batshit version. And he knows Kung Fu! Who is this guy? Papa’s punishing 002 for the abuse he’s been projecting in turn upon the other kids seems harsh, and yet in this environment that runs on dominance and control, it’s the only way to ensure the safety of the younger students. Papa made this bed, so now he’s gotta manage it. Still, that inherent violence of that system has negative resonance over time. Steve is “PURE METAL”! Here’s a case of great character development, as I remember thinking he was a douche in S1 but over the length of this story he’s grown and become a better person. We find out the Upside Down is an inversion of an older reality – in fact starting the very day Will was kidnapped into it (Nov 6, 1983). The chess set used by Elle and Henry (aka “British Birds,” with peacocks for queens) is a replica of the same set that appeared in the film “Blade Runner.” (Make what connections to the manufacture of powerful beings that you will…) Elle is only a child and easily fooled by Henry’s earnestness, but it is also because she’s just a genuinely kind person. If one is going to make a mistake like this, that’s the best way to make one. Her compassion was never at fault, she just needed more life experience to evaluate the people around her. I also think that this experience with Henry factors into her response to Papa at the end of Episode 8 – whatever he was to her, she’s not going to let Papa or sympathy dictate what is best for herself in the future. Okay, sometimes CGI is a wash – but the Demogorgon here IS utterly terrifying in the prison sequence! It was a great application of CGI (along with animating vines on Vecna’s body). Hopper is so stunned when Joyce hugs him. There are probably many reasons for this. One is that as you surmised – is she even really there? Is he just fantasizing this?? He’s also still in “fight or flee” mode and probably having someone touch him is making his skin crawl until he can switch gears. He could also be wrestling with frustration over Joyce putting herself in danger -- how he as a man’s man should have been able to save himself, he is the protector and now he was being protected and saved. But whatever the reason, I love that he eventually sets ALL of it aside, hugs her back, and allows himself to finally smile. None of it matters because Joyce is with him now. Hopper really deserves something good. Having someone come to save him is affirmation that he is indeed loved. Heny is 001, Elle is 011 – she’s twice The One that he is! :D Even before the final Vecna reveal, as Elle walks through the carnage of the complex and we see all the twisted bodies left by Henry, we can’t help think about Vecna who kills his victims in the same way. Henry, man, don’t drag down spiders with you! They deserve better! So this is my other favorite episode this season, just because of the storytelling but also the payoffs we are finally getting (multiple storylines) including Vecna’s backstory and the revision of “facts” we learned prior. So Henry isn’t completely wrong about the world and how its artificial structure often brings misery to the humans trapped within it. I was also reminded of Smith’s speech in “The Matrix” about humanity being a cancer on the planet. I think both of these ills are very obvious nowadays, in the impact of corporate behavior and social expectation on laborers, or the impact of human industrialization on the environment and natural balance of the planet. It’s more their response to these truths that leads them to become a pox in turn on the same people they are supposedly defending. They see the right truths but take away the wrong message. (Hey, let’s just throw Thanos in there as well, who in fairness envisioned a random “lottery style” system to alleviate the drain on universal resources rather than catering to the powerful or rich, but…. yup, he’s another one.) Big Thing: Instead of using a sad painful memory to defeat Henry, Eleven uses the memory of her mother loving her. She rejects his proposition and substitutes her own! Love conquers hate!

Episode 7 comments: Steve and the gang are so grown up now, they just lay into these bats without fear, and the camera work is nice! Classic Coke, LOL! What a misstep by Coca Cola, they brought “Classic” back in Summer 1985, and this is March 1986 so it’s the right timing. I think one thing good in this episode is that both Papa AND Henry (AKA Vecna) don’t always say false things – in fact, sometimes their words are profound. This enables us to understand why young Elle ends up trusting them… but as we find out, even bad people can sometimes grasp nuggets of honest wisdom. Papa has a really large VHS collection – maybe he oughta think about transferring some of this to 4K disc or terabyte drives, lol! Officer Callahan (the sassy cop with the moustache) is played by John Reynolds, who among other acting roles has also done some live comedy shows. He somehow manages to shine (with his comic timing) without becoming so buffoonish he becomes annoying. Lady Applejack! Come on, you’re supposed to be on your bro’s side! Stop undermining their lies! Nancy gives a really great field dressing to Steve, without ever flinching, after the bat swarm fight, and has been toughening up every season – setting herself up to become this franchise’s Sarah Connor lol! All that noise and sound in the Upside Down contributes to its creepiness – like a grating against one’s soul and putting it on par with the setting of The Mist (where odd sounds arise regularly from the obfuscating fog, hiding its monsters). Kids reach maturity by separating from their parents, establishing their own independence, if they want to be healthy – but hopefully after this separation is achieved, they will also come back together and engage as adults and that shared experience. While Elle and Hopper are separated, we can see both still caring about each other across the vast distance, not realizing the other is also missing them so badly. Murray really does a great Yuri – in fact, maybe a more batshit version. And he knows Kung Fu! Who is this guy? Papa’s punishing 002 for the abuse he’s been projecting in turn upon the other kids seems harsh, and yet in this environment that runs on dominance and control, it’s the only way to ensure the safety of the younger students. Papa made this bed, so now he’s gotta manage it. Still, that inherent violence of that system has negative resonance over time. Steve is “PURE METAL”! Here’s a case of great character development, as I remember thinking he was a douche in S1 but over the length of this story he’s grown and become a better person. We find out the Upside Down is an inversion of an older reality – in fact starting the very day Will was kidnapped into it (Nov 6, 1983). The chess set used by Elle and Henry (aka “British Birds,” with peacocks for queens) is a replica of the same set that appeared in the film “Blade Runner.” (Make what connections to the manufacture of powerful beings that you will…) Elle is only a child and easily fooled by Henry’s earnestness, but it is also because she’s just a genuinely kind person. If one is going to make a mistake like this, that’s the best way to make one. Her compassion was never at fault, she just needed more life experience to evaluate the people around her. I also think that this experience with Henry factors into her response to Papa at the end of Episode 8 – whatever he was to her, she’s not going to let Papa or sympathy dictate what is best for herself in the future. Okay, sometimes CGI is a wash – but the Demogorgon here IS utterly terrifying in the prison sequence! It was a great application of CGI (along with animating vines on Vecna’s body). Hopper is so stunned when Joyce hugs him. There are probably many reasons for this. One is that as you surmised – is she even really there? Is he just fantasizing this?? He’s also still in “fight or flee” mode and probably having someone touch him is making his skin crawl until he can switch gears. He could also be wrestling with frustration over Joyce putting herself in danger -- how he as a man’s man should have been able to save himself, he is the protector and now he was being protected and saved. But whatever the reason, I love that he eventually sets ALL of it aside, hugs her back, and allows himself to finally smile. None of it matters because Joyce is with him now. Hopper really deserves something good. Having someone come to save him is affirmation that he is indeed loved. Heny is 001, Elle is 011 – she’s twice The One that he is! :D Even before the final Vecna reveal, as Elle walks through the carnage of the complex and we see all the twisted bodies left by Henry, we can’t help think about Vecna who kills his victims in the same way. Henry, man, don’t drag down spiders with you! They deserve better! So this is my other favorite episode this season, just because of the storytelling but also the payoffs we are finally getting (multiple storylines) including Vecna’s backstory and the revision of “facts” we learned prior. So Henry isn’t completely wrong about the world and how its artificial structure often brings misery to the humans trapped within it. I was also reminded of Smith’s speech in “The Matrix” about humanity being a cancer on the planet. I think both of these ills are very obvious nowadays, in the impact of corporate behavior and social expectation on laborers, or the impact of human industrialization on the environment and natural balance of the planet. It’s more their response to these truths that leads them to become a pox in turn on the same people they are supposedly defending. They see the right truths but take away the wrong message. (Hey, let’s just throw Thanos in there as well, who in fairness envisioned a random “lottery style” system to alleviate the drain on universal resources rather than catering to the powerful or rich, but…. yup, he’s another one.) Big Thing: Instead of using a sad painful memory to defeat Henry, Eleven uses the memory of her mother loving her. She rejects his proposition and substitutes her own! Love conquers hate!

Jennywocky

Bethany won't cry until the final episode then. (I was like, crying over Papa? What?) Yeah, the finale is pretty... intense.

Jennywocky

Episode 8 Comments: “Nothing to be afraid of, is there…. NANCY?” It’s pretty chilling when we think Nancy [yes, Natalie Dyer is the actress] is an unobserved observer in this Vecna fantasy… and then the speaker (Brenner?) turns and looks right at her. It’s not Brenner, it’s Vecna after all. It’s a good thing that our lich villain just needed a messenger right now, versus wanting to use Nancy for more nefarious purposes like gate weaving. [Side note: DAVID HARBOUR JUST WON AN EMMY LAST NIGHT! WOOOO!!!!] “We could just play D&D and Nintendo for the rest of our lives!” – woo hoo, living the dream,baby! Will is so selfless when he talks to Mike in the van, to encourage him that Elle still cares about him, and that he has a place in her life – but he also obviously feels so alone himself. It costs him to put Mike and Elle first. Mike doesn’t realize Will was partly talking about himself – although Jonathan is keyed into his little brother and feels his pain. Hang in there, Will. Your friends will figure it out soon enough and be there for you. The Great Mobile Camper Hijack of 1986: “It’s not every day you lose your house and car in one fell swoop!” Well said, Robin! I think Dr. Owens proves his loyalty to Elle over and over in this episode. Maybe his role IS more maternal, so it’s a Mama / Papa thing, but he’s always putting her welfare first and even begs for her life at the end. He just doesn’t have the power to protect her anymore. Steve’s full brood of Harringtons – “six little nuggets, three girls, three boys!” LOL. Nancy kind of admires Steve for who he is now, seeing his growth -- but no way is she gonna pump out a whole nugget pack sans sauce for him. Max: “Vecna sees the darkness in us.” That’s all Henry ever saw. His view of the world was of a dark place where everyone was awful. His powerful memory was steeped in pain. But there has to be a better answer to that. My hometown wasn’t very creative, we never got a store called the War Zone – it was simply (sigh) the Army-Navy Surplus... And here we get Molly Ringwald’s cousin as Robin’s lost love object. Pretty on the nose, lol. But there was no Ducky here, just the jock goons. Argyle: “If that small woman is small enough, she could fit behind a small tree.” LOL. I gotta hand it to Argyle, once he gets an idea while high, he grabs hold of it and never lets go! “You can choose,” says Papa. FFS, what a bald-faced liar. It just makes me want to dig out my Death Note and scribble down Martin Brenner’s name. Henry’s interpretation of reality might have been off in some ways, but he was never really wrong about Dr. Brenner. “It’s not me,” says Eleven to him. “It’s you.” And she’s right. Dustin’s puns need to be enjoyed and savored. Papa does dumb stuff at the end that could get him and Elle killed. I haven’t decided whether the writing was just silly or whether he really was that dumb and self-serving. I don't think he was trying to run there at the end, he fell and was staggering back to his feet unfortunately away from Elle -- and then took more bullets. That was a total Carrie moment there when Eleven reaches past the inhibitor collar and wrenches the chopper out of the sky. Damn. She’s totally back. I love how Eleven studies Brenner’s face in the final minute there as you’ve said, as he begs her for absolution… and you can tell that she’s seeing him in his totality – the good things, the bad things, all the mixed memories of joy and pain – and her final response is just to say, “Goodbye, Papa,” as she stands and walks off, leaving him alone to die. As you are saying, it was an act of compassion that still respected her own dignity as a person. He wasn’t offering a true apology, he was just asking her for yet one MORE thing he never earned – and she just quietly moves on with her life because that is the ONLY proper response to have. So Journey’s “Separate Ways” might be an overused song (one of the biggest anthems of my high school days!) but I will never complain about that especially when it’s used in such an epic and haunting way to lead to the season finale of this show. So glad they let this season breathe as the camera plays over each of the kids while they steel their courage, grab their gear…. and step out into destiny. Love it so much.

Definitely Not Definitive

Yes it is! 😭 All things considered though, I think I wound up holding it together somewhat, could have been a lot worse.