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The really sad thing is there is a petition on The White House website asking for more funding for these solar roadways. It currently has 90 000 signatures. If they get 100 000 signatures The White House is obliged to give them a reply. *Correction, I screwed this up, they have 10 000 signatures, and need 90 000 more. Lets hope there arn't that many gullible americans out there! https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/fund-solar-roadways-create-national-clean-energy-surplus-and-end-wintery-road-conditions/3hjb7XbS

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Solar Roadways, a VERY expensive joke?

So the solar roadways has a page up to 'answer' its critics. http://solarroadways.com/clearingthefreakinair.shtml Previously I had suspected that they have no technical expertise, now Im sure. They claim that glass is softer than asphalt. They claim LEDs will be fine for roads because of powerhungry LED billboards or LED traffic lights that work in the shade.

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OpenDome

to have a clear surface under moving vehicles is a stupid idea. Who is gonna clean that surface, nobody. Take your average man hole cover, 40 kn or so to support large trucks. What is the highest amount of KN you can get from polycarbonate? These things would break. Putting solar on a road is the worst application you can do. If you look at a life cycle analysis of a product like this you would see so much more loss from this from the manufacture of broken products. It would be counter intuitive. I like this patreon for bring the truth of this matter into the open.

Anonymous

I have a genuine question to your argument. You assumed that the measurement of snowfall was completely ice. Afaik it's not. Depending on conditions snow is approximately 1/10 of the weight of the same amount of water. So shouldn't you divide that power cost by 10? To add to arguments against solar roadways: 1. Glare from light reflecting on the roadway from other cars' headlights. 2. Spilling cold water on hot glass will cause it to shatter depending on the type of glass they use. 3. Fire hazard from electrics under road surface in a car accident if petrol is spilled.

Anonymous

What do you mean by "amount"? Volume? Because Thunderf00t spoke of kilograms as far as I know and that means it is irrelevant what density either material has. He spoke of how much energy it takes to convert 1kg of ice at freezing point into 1kg of water at freezing point, as far as I remember, so no it does not matter what volume or density snow has.^^

Anonymous

Out of curiosity, how much hate have you garnered from the SFR's as compared to others you have featured (Watsonista's, Creationists, Nuke nutters, etc) and has their any crossover between them?

Anonymous

I think the only thing missing from these solar roadways videos is a test where you put a piece of frosted glass over the solar panel to show the effect of the glass scratches on the hability of the solar panel to generate electricity. The frosted glass would work as a piece of glass that had been completely scratched from use (after all, if those solar roadways are suposed to work for 20 years, there's no way it wouldn't get completely scratched by traffic, no matter how light the actual traffic is).

Thunderf00t

When I looked over the latest comments on my first SFR video, I get the majority of hate from them. However in many ways, that fantastic. That means that people who had bought into this crap are having their ideas challenged. When I first started on YT, creationist ruled the roost. However, in the long game, the better argument typically win. A lotta people will say a lotta nasty things about you before then... and sure its not nice having people say a lot of nasty things about you... but even back then, it was a price I gladly paid, and its one I gladly pay now.

Thunderf00t

actually thats a good idea for a cross over video. Glass can be etched with hydroflouric acid. 1) etch glass 2) show effects on solar cells.

Anonymous

A common theme of Thunderfoot's detractors is one of his educational background. My response to these guys is that I could care less what Thunderfoot's background is. He makes some very good points that no one, I mean no one, can refute. Point me to one video of a scientist refuting anything Thunderfoot has said about Solar Roadways. You can't. The best the advocates can do is say "it's a prototype" or something similar. Furthermore, even if it was possible, it would cost trillions of dollars to implement on a large scale and would never-ever be able to pay for itself over time. Unless Solar Roadways has some cheap glass that is made from a material that no one in the history of mankind has seen or heard of, this is complete and utter bullshit. Ask yourself, why are they pandering to the indigogo crowd for pennies, while they could be presenting their technology to suits with billions of dollars to invest, and surely private equity would want to get in on what would be a $100trillion dollar global product, wouldn't they? Why, you ask? Because guys with billions of dollars are not fukin idiots, but the average American who believes anything they read ARE idiots. Quite ironic that the wife has a history in psychology. This all makes sense now---the fleecing of dumb Americans.