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So I thought I was just about done with the solar roadways thing.... and then.... ug... i checked their website again. Firstly I found out that the US government has already given these people about 1 million dollars (arrggghh!) and then I saw their new video about how solar roadways will prevent accidents. Their video is straight funding though emotional blackmail. Primarily the reason the Solar Road ways bugs me is, 1) its duped people out of almost 3mn dollars. 2) it undermines real science. So I figure I will have one short (non-patreon feed... from now on I will only putting the premium videos into the patreon feed..... LOVE all of your support....but I want it to be clear that this support goes toward videos on which real effort has been expended... making animations... running calculations... doing expts...) video on the solar roadways.... a second easy to make video just going over the FAQ, and probably a third calling out their absolute BS on their 'solar roadways will save lives' when they havent even stopped a car on their glass roadway yet! Also anita sarkeesian has popped up again. The crazy thing is, ironically just like with the solar roadways... I just cant understand why people cannot see thru this BS straight away. Drives me crazy!

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Anonymous

Expose Anita more. That's real evil. Solar guys are at least self-delusional but not evil.

Anonymous

If Anita Sarkeesian can somehow gather enough steam to rise above the noise and get a spotlight again, I wonder what other stupidity has a chance. I want to see Kony2012 fastforward to Kony2014. As far as the solar roadways thing - you've already made it clear how stupid the whole idea is. I agree that it's infuriating how stupid sheeple are, but at this point you're preaching to the choir and the deaf. Though you made a point in one video that has been stuck with me for days... your bit about light pollution. Well that, and the fact these solar roadways people have the backing of a Senator. So, how hard would it be to create a similar project to the solar roadways people, and gather legislative support - but instead of roadways, make street-lamp covers? Something to increase efficiency of the light shone on the road, while reducing light pollution, and hell, for shits and giggles lets throw a solar panel on there. Already, city lights turn on and off throughout the night to conserve power - they'd conserve even more if they had a solar battery, right? So would it be possible to kickstart a project and get backing for a similar, more realistic idea that would not only be cheaper, more beneficial, but also give us back our stars?

Anonymous

How is there any science involved in solar roadways? As I undertand this, they have a more or less ready product which most likely will have only a niche application, if they can market it at all. Therefore they are trying to sell it with some ridiculous claims. Unfortunately a lot of people are falling to it. That is why I support you clearing up the bullshit. But I don't think there is "real science" involved in the meaning of "acquiring new knowledge". Science is only thus far involved in that the already gained knowledge (solar panels, LEDs and glass) is applied to build new stuff (solar road ways), which is engineering. So, imho it's mostly an egineering project.

Alamandorious

Thunderf00t, if I ever win the lottery and become independantly wealthy, you'll have more funding to really take the fight to these rubes. Seriously, how much more BS will people be forced to swallow? How many more will be duped out of their money?

Anonymous

I mentioned previously - check out the compound interest which would be accrued on the capital outlay for an initial installation over its lifetime. Compare it with the value of the electricity generated. Also, is it possible to estimate the energy needed, in Joules, to manufacture a unit and compare that with the energy it would generate over it's lifetime? Maybe just treat it as X Kilograms of refined glass as a starter. Send your analysis to the credulous Senators secretary - let him know he's on the point of damaging his career. His secretary won't dare to not pass it on. Thanks Tf. Rationality is beleaguered.

Lindy

If this reaches a scam of huge proportions, then it might be fun to have one of their t-shirts. ;-)

Anonymous

@Lindy I can read "Atmel" on it, but I can't really make out the numbers to find it on google. Also, a few seconds a later you can see a rather large microprocessor in the middle of the panel. I suppose they have small controllers for the individual micro inverters for each solar cell and a big controller for the LEDs and other stuff.

Anonymous

Anita Sarkeesian is a modern snake oil salesmen, selling false hope with false lies to a worthless audience. She is far from stupid because, of all the professionally oppressed shills I've looked at, she puts in the least effort, she offers the least evidence, makes the wildest claims and makes the most money. In many ways, she is the same as the solar roadways liars. I watched your video about why idiocy has to be confronted and while it makes sense, I think perhaps you apply the principal inappropriately. This people are clearly not stupid. They are doing the time honoured tradition of extracting money from actually stupid people and putting in the pocket of a person who has figured out a way to make that happen. I think they, particularly Anita, are just putting out an entertainment product that makes money. They'd be >stupid< to stop.

Lindy

Personally, I prefer facts over words, technology over ideology. But you are quite good at both, so I'm fine watching videos that cover both. But we still have to watch this solar freak show because it's like an interactive geek soap opera. A professional R&D site doesn't go on their web page to counter a serious concern by calling people "haters." Sounds like a Kitchen Nightmares show. If they can get past the Dragon's Den, I'll definitely buy a t-shirt. And given that there is nothing technological, creative, or practical coming from this project, it just has to be a scam. Perhaps they started out with what they thought was a good idea, but definitely it's been scam status for some years now. How are they spending this money? Isn't there some sort of transparency required so we can see, after all it is partly funded by the US DOT. Shouldn't all their test data be available?

Anonymous

I have never been more impressed by your videos (and that doesn't mean the other ones were not great) than your really thorough evisceration of this concept. I wish you all the best, keep up the good work.

Lindy

I was thinking that there should be one simple show stopper in this stupid project that is irrefutable by just about anyone and shows it to be pure fantasy (since cost seems to be by most overlooked). This virtual decentralized power grid that they need. We have no technology at all now to store excess power, no? Use it or loose it as Dave said. And they are all geared up for production, they say.

Anonymous

Lindy, that is some sort of Atmel part. Could be one of their AVR processors. It doesn't look like it is part of the solar roadway board at all, more likely some sort of communications interface his laptop is connected to or some totally unrelated circuit board they threw in the video because it's "flashy"

Anonymous

Mr. Munroe of xkcd.com mentioned solar roadways in his recent what-if. And as a big fan, I am not disappointed.