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Poll: Beta Versions for 2024 MPMB? (Patreon)

Published:
2025-05-05 15:07:08
Edited:
2025-05-05 15:10:27
Imported:
2026-06
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Poll

Poll: Beta Versions for 2024 MPMB?

  • Release an incomplete beta sheet and update it as more content gets transcribed 64
  • First transcribe all SRD content before releasing a beta sheet 96
  • Skip the beta, only go for a complete 2024 sheet 80
  • The beta better have more purple! (a.k.a. do what you think is best) 293
  • 2025-05-05
  • —2025-05-12
  • 533 votes
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Content

Although I made some good process in March, April had other plans. Just after the 2-week long school holiday, my partner’s father unexpectedly passed away. Thus, priorities shifted from working on the 2024 sheet to helping family abroad. I don’t want this update to be about that, but it is important to mention as I have little progress to showcase, unless you are overly joyful about the 2024 spells being transcribed.

For this poll I'd like to know if you would be interested in a beta (i.e. incomplete/untested) version of the MPMB sheets for D&D 2024.

The System Reference Document for D&D 2024 is out (SRD v5.2) and that is great news for creators like me, because I can finally legally release a character sheet with all the 2024 rules. The only problem is that the sheet isn’t that far along yet. I’m currently in the process of adding all page references to the SRD v5.2 and continuing with transcribing the spells. What’s next depends on this poll.

The setup for the 2024 rules will be the same as for the 2014 rules. The sheet will have all the SRD content built-in, while everything else will be handled by add-on scripts. For example, all the content in the Player’s Handbook that is not in the SRD will be added through an add-on script. Legacy content will also have to be added through add-on scripts, even the 2014 SRD content.

This approach differs from the fan-made 2024 add-on script and has the unfortunate side-effect that it makes it harder for me to use that add-on script as a time-saving “first draft”.

This brings me to the reason for this poll. I am not done transcribing the 2024 rules, but I could quickly release an unfinished beta version so that fans like you can:

Help transcribe remaining content using the (slightly) updated syntax

Help find transcription mistakes (typo’s etc.)

Test the new features to help pin-point bugs

Give feedback on how certain new 2024-only features are implemented (e.g. weapon masteries)

Releasing beta versions takes time away from other things I could be doing (like transcribing the 2024 magic items), so I’ll only build these with enough interest.

IMPORTANT: These beta sheets will not (yet) allow you to create full 2024 characters, as I haven’t touched on things like classes. Don’t vote for betas thinking it will get you to use MPMB for 2024 D&D in a week.

I will post more polls in the coming days/weeks about the new 2024 sheet. The next poll will be about how to handle legacy content.

Legacy content refers to all the 2014 player options that were published before the 2024 PHB. This includes both the stuff that hasn’t been updated to 2024 rules (e.g. you want to use the School of Necromancy wizard subclass from the 2014 PHB or play as a Half-Elf), as well as the stuff that has gotten an update, but you want to use anyway (e.g. you want to use the 2014 rules for the Mountain Dwarf or the 2014 Cleric class).

Comments

Javier Molina

Patiently waiting for news on the new app.

Kathy Brady

Take the time you need to get things to the way you will be happy with them

Sebastiaan Croes

Take your time! I think the poll also points to that ;)

morepurplemorebetter

The work so far is on the back-end and not very flashy. My plan is to showcase stuff about the web-app as soon as I have something visual. Unless you really like images of JavaScript code and websites without any styling, there is unfortunately still little to show.

MillerGeek Art

Would it be possible or even beneficial to lean on the json schema used by 5etools? This would allow you to benefit from the transcription efforts already made by that community, and make it much simpler for people to add homebrew and 3rd-party content to their sheets since so much is already available on 5etools.

morepurplemorebetter

It is no problem to use the transcription efforts of tools like 5eTools, either by using the exact same data structure or with a simple conversion tool. Using their structure unchanged will have the issue that both could go out of sync if they decide to change something, so a converter is probably better and in the long term impossible to avoid. The biggest issue, however, is that the content of 5eTools contains (almost) no information on automation. For example, a feat doesn't have separate attributes to tell a character sheet how to change a weapon entry. Code can't read the descriptive text, it needs explicit commands. Those things still need to be added, it is impossible to simply take digital content made for displaying text and use that as input for an automated character builder. Thus yes, the idea of making the schema compatible with that from 5eTools and/or to provide a converter between the two is a great idea, but don't expect it to immediately make all the 5eTools content available for use with automation.

MillerGeek Art

I think they've been adding more of that data for use in Foundry through Plutonium

morepurplemorebetter

That is probably true, I haven't really looked into how that has been done exactly with Plutonium. I know that Giddy adds this kind of automation in manually, so in a way similar to how it works for MPMB PDFs. As I don't expect this manual addition will have been done for most of the 3rd-party content, mainly because a lot of the 1st-party content has not been touched, I doubt that it will be something that can be built upon without a lot of caveats. Unfortunately, FoundryVTT has a very different approach to character sheets than what I'm developing. Also, DnD on FoundryVTT doesn't have much automated, that is handled by other modules that maintain their own databases of scripts and effect. Plutonium imports the descriptions and stuff like damage fine, but not so much the things that affect other parts of the character like weapon attacks or spells. For example, if you take the Great Weapon Fighting Style through Plutonium, it doesn't change anything when you roll the damage dice of a Two-Handed weapon, nor does it remind you in the description of that weapon.

Todd Smith

I am not a fan of 2024 D&D, That being said. There are some things about it I do like. I hope you will allow the sheets to choose between both editions.

morepurplemorebetter

There will be separate versions of sheets, one for the 2014 rules and another for the 2024 rules. There won't be a switch inside the PDFs to change the rules.

MillerGeek Art

Yeah, you have to combine with other tools to do that stuff. The plutonium-automation module is supposed to do a lot of it I think, but it hasn't seen an update in a long time now. My biggest problem with Foundry right now is if I play with automation I have to leave the same world running all the time if I want my players to be able to mess with their character sheets between sessions. I'd absolutely love to eventually see your web-based sheet able to export to a format I can use in Foundry, or even sync with Foundry directly. I'd be happy to help with this, or if the data is in json format in the webapp I could probably just build an extension on top of it.

morepurplemorebetter

Having the web-app work together with FoundryVTT would be the dream, but something for later down the line. Some kind of export to JSON functionality will probably be there from the start, but integrated support for VTT's is something that is on the long-term wishlist for now.

MillerGeek Art

If it can export and import json then the community can build extensions to it ourselves, which would be fantastic. Thanks for everything you're doing!

Beth Demshar

I would second this. While my parties prefer the 5e version, largely because of the mass of books sitting on our shelf, it would be handy to, for example, add in a 2024 spell into the spell sheet.

Chris Fatzer

Just curious if the 2024 sheet is ready?

Elmer Perkins

ooooooo... what is the eta for the web app?

morepurplemorebetter

I don't have an ETA, there is a lot that needs to happen before it is done. Soooo.... any time between January 2026 and the release of D&D 6th edition :P