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Bitcoin Knots vs Core Debate (Patreon)

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2025-09-03 23:33:51
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I've remained quiet on this one for some time but do watch it from a distance.

TLDR

If I thought it posed a threat to BTC, I would have immediately sold my BTC and MSTR holdings!

The Details

Bitcoin debates like Core vs. Knots aren’t new. They happen all the time. The community wrestles with disagreements about what Bitcoin should allow and how strict the rules should be. Some people—often purists—see changes as threats, but history shows Bitcoin doesn’t break from internal disputes.

Core vs. Knots in Plain English

Bitcoin Core: The main version of Bitcoin software, used by most nodes. It’s conservative but still evolving.

Bitcoin Knots: A fork maintained by Luke Dashjr, with tighter rules against things considered “spam” and extra privacy features. It still follows Bitcoin’s rules, so it won’t split the chain.

Recently, Knots has gained popularity (now close to 20% of nodes) as Core prepares for its v30 update in late 2025.

What’s the Fight About?

Core v30 may expand how much data people can attach to Bitcoin transactions (via OP_RETURN). Critics worry this will flood the blockchain with “junk” like NFTs or inscriptions, making Bitcoin less about money and harder for individuals to run nodes. They fear this shift could centralize Bitcoin or dilute its purpose.

On social media, some are calling this change catastrophic—claims like “it will kill Bitcoin” are spreading. Knots is being promoted as the “true” Bitcoin alternative.

The reason I keep quiet is that it does increase emotions... this, for example

Why This Won’t Kill Bitcoin

Consensus rules don’t change: Both Core and Knots still follow Bitcoin’s fundamental rules. No hard fork, no split.

Users have freedom: Anyone can run Core, Knots, or another version. This choice is what decentralization means.

Yes, there are valid concerns about blockchain bloat and its philosophical implications. But the “Bitcoin is dying” talk is mostly fear and exaggeration. Bitcoin thrives on debate, forks, and experimentation. That’s not a weakness—it’s a feature.

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Chewie

Indeed I am not worried. Thanks for update. Bitcoin is capable of evolving, great, whilst preserving core fundamentals.

Mbolorman

So this is like having say YouTube or Netflix with or without ads - still the same service but one is distributed with ads breaks and the other without. Tried to think of it in the simplest possible way and that’s an example that came to mind!

This thing is sooo scarce!

MUST READ PLEASE! Core will blow up the Op return filter that lets only 40-80 bytes of spam be relayed by nodes at the time unless they pass by miners directly This means spam of up to 100000bytes could be uploaded to the bitcoin blockchain Including images there is a real threat that images such as sexual image of non consenting people may end up the chain This is a very serious vector of for government capture of btc on the premises of possession of juv p0rn by unwilling nodes but they would still remain responsible for it in the eyes of the law. Please go see the videos on youtube from BITCOIN UNIVERSITY, and BITCOIN MECANIC (Luke Dashjr) on this issue it is not trivial and it is a real threat to btc Please run a knots version on you nodes we beed the community to unite against non consensual changes to the protocol as core want to do in the next version

This thing is sooo scarce!
>>186119903

No it is not please do more research! MUST READ PLEASE! Core will blow up the Op return filter that lets only 40-80 bytes of spam be relayed by nodes at the time unless they pass by miners directly This means soam of up to 100000bytes could be uploaded to the bitcoin blockchain Including images there is a real threat that images such as sexual image of non consenting people may end up the chain This is a very serious vector of for government capture of btc on the premises of possession of juv p0rn by unwilling but still responsible for it node Please go see the videos on toutube from BITCOIN UNIVERSITY AND LUKE DASHJR on this issue it is not trivial and it is a real threat to btc Please run a knots version on you nodes we beed the community to unite against non consensual changes to the protocol as core want to do in the next version

D. ⚡️

Calling Preston a moron says it all regarding Core ……. Core is pure grifters laughing at people trying to keep Bitcoin for what it is …… it’s really sad like I have always said when the real money starts to come into BTC you really start to see the true side of plebs …

Matt

The guys tag is @brian_trollz. 🤦‍♂️

Happy Hippo

This could one way or other way make individual transactions "illegal" in a matter of Nat security. Spam of 100kb could contain lots of things - including all the data for any computer hack, to something that could threaten a national security. So the people in "power" would/will make sure that any BTC transaction doesn’t have on of it attached ... Anyone could make a transaction of few SATS BTC with a spam up attached to it as long as the fee is paid And then anyone running a node has the date there ... So it seems that at the end any regular person will get screw again. Lets hope it will not come to it

Tony123

For sure the BTC community needs to analyse and minimise threats, by bad actors. What goes on the BTC block chain stays there forever, visible and auditable by all. If anything can be done to reduce abuse & harm to BTC going forward, whilst preserving its store of value longer term, then that should be done as a primary goal. Imagine foreign government sponsored attacks or terrorist groups, wanting to harm the BTC protocol & reputation, by permanently attaching bad info that isn't transactional in nature :( Or imagine one's own Government or in a group like BRICS or G7, deciding BTC chain is an additional risk beyond finances, due to porn or defamation/lies or state secrets etc? Suddenly Quantum computers seem like a lesser risk than the above - now will the BTC community divide itself and thus double its vulnerability to attack and reputation, or will it unite for the greater good globally, going forward? Will pre 2026 BTC be known as the purer, more valuable form, if we don't secure and protect BTC from the many bad actors out there, waiting and wanting to poison the well?

donkeykong9000
>>186130769

It's too bad that the current core devs are unable to conceptualize the threat and would rather demonstrate their lack of professionalism than take the feedback seriously

btcrealm
>>186138757

That is his real name. Whether or not he changed it to that I don't know. Fitting though.

btcrealm
>>186127398

You can also protest by not upgrading to V30 Core. I plan on continuing to run both just pre update. At least for now.

Tim

This is not a "nothing burger" core developers have been going after knots node runners because knots node runners are over 20% now. Core developers are now bragging about attacking knots runners on X. I would love you to do an actual in depth episode on this. The core should in no way be attacking other node runners no matter what. Maybe listen to what the core developers are actually doing in their own words. It is only a short 1 min 32 sec clip to listen to. https://x.com/nazgulHODL/status/1959009018602537450

beginner

What bitcoin did channel does a lot of coverage in this specific topic James.