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Classic Who "Logopolis" Parts 3&4 EARLY Early Access! (Patreon)

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Steve McMullan

Weirdest. Regeneration. Ever. And that includes the recent bi-generation

James Gorman

This was Tom Baker’s last season as the Doctor. He was the longest serving Doctor in the Classic Series! The Fourth Doctor 1974-1981

James Gorman

The Watcher was a projection of the Fifth Doctor.

James Gorman

What an incredible Seven Years of Tom Baker’s Doctor!

James Gorman

Tegan is one of the favourite companions in Classic Who!

Josef Schiltz

Well, Jess, that's a 'nice' surprise for after your break! Is that a yikes? When I and a friend-colleague interviewed JNT for our underground mag back then, he told us that he had absolutely no idea whatsoever that this regeneration echoed the regeneration of Abbot K'anpo Rimpoche from his projection self, Deputy Abbott Cho Je in the last Jon Pertwee serial, Planet Of The Spiders.

Owen Wildish

I may suggest, perhaps after your two-week break before jumping into the 5h Doctor's era, and to finish off the 4th Doctor/Tom Baker era, you should react to K--9 & Campany.

James Fish
>>133058780

That's a really interesting point & quite a surprise to hear that JNT never made that connection. I'm surprised by the amount of people who have never made that connection when I speak about this on the Dr Who Facebook group because it isn't entirely unique. I'd like to feel that it's a gift K'anpo/Cho Ge bestowed on the Doctor when 'giving the regeneration a little push'.

James Fish

Thank you for a wonderful reaction, as always. I absolutely love this story because the whole theme revolves around entropy - including the Doctors own entropy. There is the vaguest of hints of this to come at the end of Keeper of Traken, which most people - including me - missed at the time. That is to say that The time on The Masters Grandfather clock Tardis was set at 4 minutes to 12. It was done entirely deliberately to signify he only had 4 episodes left. Whenever I view this story and particularly this ending, I always do so with a tinge of sadness. The fourth Doctor had been such a huge part of my childhood for what seemed like forever & I was totally unfamiliar with the concept of regeneration, despite having the vaguest of memories of 3's last season. I literally felt like part of my childhood went with him when he regenerated. I like where it leaves things though because with 5's debut, everything is new. New Master, New Doctor, New Companions. It's also been a while in Classic Who since the Doctor had this many companions. I have so many memories of 4's era that I would certainly struggle to pick my top 5. I have a feeling I might know what your top slot is - but I might be wrong and look forward to your review of this era whenever you're able to do this. With that said, see you next time!

Josef Schiltz
>>133058780

Well, the thing is, JNT actually said that he had never heard of it! Of course, he was as tight-mouthed as an Aldebaran Shellmouth about a lot - which was wise anyway, spoilers! But that's interesting about the future echo being a gift from K'anpo Rimpoche! Hadn't thought of that and that's a nice little twist. That's in canon for me! Of course, with the stuff that the Time Lords did to the Second Doctor, there could be various Doctors all over the place and we just followed one - which would have easily explained all the extra faces in the Morbius mind wrestle and needn't have tried making a mess of the origin of the First, the Original! Erm. What I am concerned about at the moment concerning our dear Jess is the upcoming Kinda! What are the feelings regarding this one? Any offers? That one, I feel, is going to be a problem.

James Fish
>>133058780

Interesting that JNT had never heard of it. But then I guess it's easy to say that in retrospect when we now have the internet & home media which simply wasn't a thing back then. It has been said that it's why there are so many continuity errors in Classic Who, particularly with the Daleks (happy to expand on that). Thanks, I thought it would make a cool twist - re as a gift. Kind of makes sense given Cho Ge/K'anpo was The Doctors mentor when he was young and living on Gallifrey. Certainly the 2nd Doctors fate and what we don't know could explain extra faces in Morbius & I know that was their intention, but I honestly thought the unknown faces were that of Morbius when I first saw it. I kind of figured that's how Timelord wrestling worked, that each had to try & push the other past their first incarnation which would mean death to their opponent. I did have another idea about how other Doctors could have come about without having to go down the Timeless Child route (along the lines of the mythical season 6B) but it's very long-winded & I've gone on enough in this comment lol! Lastly, yes, oh boy that story! I think Jess is somewhat aware something is coming she may not be too thrilled by but doesn't know when. My thoughts are that she should watch it with original effects as it is far less threatening lol. Terrified me as a kid I don't mind saying! I think it may be her 'behind the sofa' one.

Josef Schiltz
>>133058780

Mm. Well, the last thing we want is for Jess to be traumatized. As we know, she tends to get very skittish at even the sound they make! What if someone she trusts blurs the screen, like with the intro to The Day Of The Doctor. That is rather a lot of work considering.

Josef Schiltz

The Logopolitan streets with the little cells remind me of some of the paintings of Remedios Varo and Leonora Carrington The costuming too.

Frank J

I binge watched all of classic Doctor Who for the first time between 2020 and 2021 and I must say that it took me a while getting used to Tom Baker's Doctor, because after the very humanlike and very down to earth (no pun intended) third Doctor he initially seemed to be indeed a bit too alien for me.

James Fish
>>133058780

I dunno, I just think she should get to it & get through it, then we can discuss the pros and cons of the story afterwards. I don't agree with blurring it, she can just put her fingers over her eyes, like we used to as kids lol! She got through that bit in The Sontaran Experiment by doing that & having a bit of a laugh about it afterwards. I don't want to talk too much about said story because, you know, spoilers etc - & I know she can read these comments. I haven't seen her reaction to Day of the Doctor or that of a lot of New Who, I only really picked things up when I became aware she'd started reacting to Classic Who & then spending an entire weekend binge watching her reactions to the 1st Doctor & became a Patron by the start of 2's run - by then I was hooked on her reactions!

Josef Schiltz
>>133058780

Mm. I'm just remembering how she reacted to that character in The Magician's Apprentice and The Witch's Familiar. Anyway, we'll see what transpires.

Josef Schiltz

Tom answering audience questions at the Classic Doctor Who 20th Anniversary Convention and is asked who was his favourite companion: "Do you think, you insipient little journalist you - audience laughter - that I am going to tell you who my favourite companion is when four or five of them are here right now and I'm to have dinner afterwards with them? - more laughter - I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that it may ruin my dinner!"

Josef Schiltz
>>133058780

Ha! Actually, looking back at Jess's reactions to The Watcher appearing, I'm wondering if she has phasmophobia as well! 'Michael' seemed to take her quite by surprise! I've noticed that Tom Baker's This Is Your Life is still up on YouTube. I bet she'd like to see that.

James Swann

I don’t know how far ahead you are, but you have seen this Doctor before - he’s the one who appeared with David Tennant in TIME CRASH and is currently DT’s father-in-law.

Josef Schiltz
>>133300199

I think Jess did recognize the younger Peter as she has seen him in both Time Crash and The Power Of The Doctor.

James Fish
>>133058780

Lol, possibly! I think I've seen Tom Bakers This is your life. I'd love her to see Dr Who - The Tom Baker Years, effectively with Tom doing Classic Who reactions, albeit to clips of each story from his era.

James Fish
>>133234375

I was at Longleat in 1983, but sadly not for that legendary event. We tried but turned back - the motorway traffic was at a standstill! Wish I'd been there for it! Still, at least I got to see the Tardis console up close at the permanent exhibition & came away with a copy of The Doctor Who monster book.

Josef Schiltz
>>133058780

Isn't that the one where Tom descends a staircase at the beginning of the tape into a living room with a comfy armchair and he is chanting "Esmerelda! Esmerelda!"