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Star Trek: TNG 2x05 Full Reaction! (Patreon)

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2024-04-06 17:00:06
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Star Trek TNG 2x05 Full Reaction - Sesskasays

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Ryan

This episode was a true labor of love by Riva's actor Howie Seago, who came from a near-evenly split deaf and hearing family and has been a lifelong advocate for the community. His wife had been a huge fan of the original Trek, and when this show started she suggested it could be a great way to get his message to a wider audience. He approached the crew with the story concept, and also had a hand in rewriting the original ending where Riva learned to speak, to avoid a message that deaf children should have to become verbal. I also suspect he contributed to the conversation with Geordi about their respective disabilities, and Riva sharply saying people should talk directly to him (my mother was a speech therapist who worked with deaf kids, and quickly learned how important that was to them). And the result is an episode that can feel a bit like an afterschool PSA, but knowing all that backstory it's impossible not to get wrapped up in it. It's objectively pretty silly that Riva's language is identical to ASL, but also quite a bit more justified than, say, aliens having a perfect copy of the US Constitution, because it's all in the name of allowing Seago to give a naturalistic performance. And indeed that performance is what ties a lot of the story together, with both his physical and facial acting making Riva's helpless frustration absolutely palpable and relatable even if you don't know exactly what he's saying. Though one downside is that Brent Spiner didn't know ASL and was just going off his script, which results in several times where Data says a word before Riva has signed it due to the grammatical differences. But all that really matters is the message we're left with, and the episode absolutely does its job there, and I wouldn't be surprised if quite a few people watching at the time were given some food for thought they'd never considered before. In its own way, your instantly being so invested in Riva and Geordi's conversation is just as great to watch as something like a surprise appearance by Fennec or Rex, and Trek especially seems great at bringing it out of you with its regular determination at progressive messages of how humanity can reach its greatest potential. And after hearing how important character-driven stories are to you, I knew this one would hit the spot perfectly.

Thomas Corp

This is quite the unique episode that I am most pleased to see, Jess, that you enjoyed very much. Yes, much more a character driven episode. Howie Seago is most excellent as Riva. As Ryan noted, there was a lot of collaboration between him, and the creative staff and it shows and it is lovely. I share your interest in the set-up with Riva’s translators. It is great when they have that moment where Picard inadvertently causes offense by talking to the translators rather than Riva himself, Picard being man enough to recognize his error, he took responsibility and offered apologies, and Riva graciously accepted. A wonderful little moment. You inquired as to our thoughts on the romantic relationships. Uh, I couldn’t really speak with any real degree of intelligence about the rules about romantic relationships in these scenarios. I’m not married, I’ve never had a girlfriend, nor have I ever been on a date as a matter of fact. I’m too much like Picard and/or Spock where I’m so goddamn introverted it ceases to be funny past a point. Not that it was ever much funny to begin with. I will say that I concur that the plotline here of Deanna and Riva having the spark did work well; it was quite tastefully and respectfully done. I also share your feeling that much though I love Deanna, she’d likely stress me out beyond belief as well. You and I, Jess, share the strong anxiety. That combined with my Asperger’s, overthinking brain, my brain never shutting the fuck up, ever, I share your stress regarding Deanna, Jess. Horrifying moment when the translators got killed, leading to the fantastic reaction you had to the translators’ death. Me, I saw it, went, “...JESUS, Star Trek!” I love Patrick selling Picard’s moment of getting through to Riva, and Riva’s response to that. Interesting to learn you took the course in ASL. I know the alphabet, plus a few simple phrases and gestures. And knowing your love of Connie in The Walking Dead, I suspected you’d appreciate Worf’s line about sign-language being quite useful in covert communications. It would have tremendous benefits in the heat of battle, yes. Lovely that Data and Deanna both are immensely helpful and kind to Riva in helping him through the difficult time. I especially loved Deanna’s performance. All your reactions to those scenes were excellent. And I adored your reaction to Picard’s being a big old softie towards Deanna at the episode’s close. As to the Geordi plotline. I echo what Ryan wrote in that the reaction you had to Riva and Geordi’s scene was just as wonderful as your excited reactions to surprise Star Wars appearances. Or for instance, your reactions to Rick and Michonne both being supremely fucking badass these past six weeks on The Ones Who Live. The look in your eyes when Geordi had that scene was beautiful to behold, Jess. It was a nice scene as well when Dr. Pulaski observed that Geordi could have the option of normal sight. What was especially nice was that Dr. Pulaski stresses that she’s not offering guarantees, only choices, lays the cards on the table as to what would be the risks, and lets Geordi know that ultimately, she leaves the decision to him alone. Just a sweet little moment that Dr. Pulaski had, and Diana performed it perfectly, as did LeVar with his moments. And I like how you note that it would be a big change for Geordi if he said yes to the procedure. And I like how you said you appreciated how even if someone has the disadvantage of being blind, Star Trek conveys the message that there are still strengths to be had from that. Other small moments of the reaction that I liked. Liked your small observation of loving the sky being orange, your favorite color. And I too found Worf’s “Why are you looking at ME?” look quite amusing. This was just such a lovely Next Gen reaction, Jess, thank you.

Josef Schiltz

I too was enamoured by the Chorus, especially since my mother was very deaf from an incident during WW2 in which she had a fractured skull. In effect, I was, in effect, her Chorus and acted as her interlocutor with the rest of the planet as she could be quite withdrawn otherwise. Riva with his loss and the way he reacted is quite understandable given such a longstanding relationship. My mother never managed to sign, it just eluded her and I developed an RP accent - somewhat like Patrick Stewart - from quite an early age because she said that was the form of English she understood. Heavy accents escaped her. We were a 'unit' for nearly forty years of my adult life - my father died when I was seven - and there was such a connection there that I actually felt like a 'phantom limb' sensation for a long while after her death because my left hand would be the one she would cling onto when she got much older and more infirm and my brain would remember that grip. It took a long while of disassociation for that feeling to disappear. There is some PTSD and nightmares, those are gradually petering out. My mother liked Star Trek, especially Patrick Stewart. My father had somewhat similar features and was fairly bald. Maybe that had something to do with it? 🤔