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Star Trek: TNG 2x06 Full Reaction! (Patreon)

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2024-04-13 17:00:05
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Josef Schiltz

Sorry to hear that Rocco has been poorly of late. I hope you manage to find out what ails him.

Ryan

The big notable thing about this one is that Patrick McGoohan was going to play Graves, but then quit for reasons that have never been explained. A popular guess by fans is that he wasn't impressed that the role amounted to just a couple minutes of screentime before his mind was transferred into Data and we'd just be watching Brent Spiner doing an impression of him. Though they did still keep the episode's title, originally a direct reference to The Prisoner, intact afterwards. Also, Dr. Selar was intended to be a recurring character as by this point they were really feeling the lack of a Vulcan character after Spock had been such a huge part of the original show's magic, and she was even going to be a love interest for Worf. It's also not clear why that didn't happen, and as for what they did do with Worf's love life...let's just say you'll have some big reactions to it.

Thomas Corp

Before speaking about the episode, I do hope, Jess, that you and Rocco have been getting some good rest in since you filmed this reaction last week. Doesn’t sound fun, what you said about you’re having the restless nights. I think the last time I had a peaceful night’s sleep was twenty-one years ago. I’m still fairly positive that that’s when my depression started, even if I didn’t know about having depression until five or six years after the fact. In any case, I’ve had a week plus now of more prominent days of not having enjoyable sleep, so I feel the pain, so to speak. And again, all the best to you and Rocco, Jess. Now to the episode. I agree that this was a solid episode. Also, quite a scary one too. Knowing your triggers, Jess, I figured that parts of this would get to you some. I see Ryan notes that the role of Graves was intended for the great Patrick McGoohan, hence the references to The Prisoner. This did not come to pass, and instead, we have the great character actor W. Morgan Sheppard, who we later see in Undiscovered Country as a separate character. And whose son, Mark Sheppard, you know, amongst other things, as Crowley. Another occasion where the resemblance between father and son is uncanny, I relate. And it says something about how unlikeable Graves is when Crowley, the king of hell himself, is more likeable. That takes some doing. I knew the sexist dialogue would be unpleasant, and at least the narrative of the story calls it out as such. Still, hearing those lines, I groaned as you did, and I said, “Lord, that’s horrid.” and later when Graves whistled the ditty from The Wizard of Oz, I noted, “Oh, so he’s a complete asshole.” You ask did the disease make him a pompous ass, I think he was probably always a pompous ass, a chauvinistic, pompous ass. A good showcasing of Data and his desires for humanity prior to his being taken over. Since we don’t see the specifics, I can only surmise that Graves had a similar set-up to what Dr. Zola did. It is ghastly as shit seeing Brent so expertly sell the performance as Graves. A huge strength of the episode is how everyone clocks something pretty goddamn quick. Picard especially, even if he doesn’t know what exactly is going on, he still smells something rotten in the state of Denmark. I share your liking how the crew hypothesizes what’s wrong with Data, because though there are the advances in modern medicine by the time this is set, to jump to the conclusion that what happened has happened is a bit of a stretch. It is indeed kind of sweet that Picard expresses that it is the first occasion in which he does not believe Data. Likewise, it is immensely sweet when Picard acknowledges how Geordi is Data’s best friend and asks him his opinion on the matter at hand. Your own reaction to that moment was quite touching as well. And it is nice how Geordi speculates what he did, and I like that you liked it, just as I liked your reactions to Deanna honing in on the disparate personalities. You spoke of not needing Graves’s voice in Data’s or anyone’s head, I concurred, saying to Graves, “I don’t need your voice in my head, it’s crowded enough as it is. The voices already there don’t need your company, sir.” I lived for your reaction when harm came to Geordi, leading you to re-establish your ironclad rule that your response to such an act is, “You are accused of treason and anti-Geordi behavior. The court finds you guilty and sentences you to be shot.” and I lived for it, saying, “Good, Jess, Good! Haha!” You then mention death is extreme. You are a fellow Slytherin, Jess, we tend to leap toward death being the preferable option when certain lines are crossed, preferably Shakespearean in nature. It is so great when Patrick superbly sells Picard’s big confrontation with Graves. Thankfully, Data is back at the end, and you are right, that it speaks volumes how Geordi instantly has the bygones attitude, and then shows concern for his bestie. Other highlights were Picard’s brief quoting of the Bard. Suzie Plakson was great as Dr. Selar, which as Ryan says, she could have been recurring which did not come to pass, though we do as I recall see Suzie again later, but more on that when we come to it. I also adored the reaction you had to Data’s beard. You and I are strong advocates for beards. And Data’s looked sharp. You asked if it looked like Riker’s, it looks a bit fuller than Riker’s beard, particularly around the cheeks. I’m told that an idea was that Data could have emulated Picard by having a bald head. Glad he didn’t as I don’t think Brent has a head for being bald. One small complaint is that the episode opens with the log entry from Dr. Pulaski, and we are told that she is going to be overseeing a medical mission. Which tells us that she could have had a strong focus, and that doesn’t happen. I was kind of looking forward to seeing Diana as Dr. Pulaski get a good spotlight in the character’s field and comfort zone. That it didn’t happen doesn’t detract from the quality of the episode; it’s more that it feels like a missed opportunity is all. Thank you for the lovely reaction, and I reiterate my hope that you and Rocco are going through better days with plenty of good rest in. Take care, Jess.

Ryan

We just got the news that Lower Decks is ending after its upcoming fifth season. On the one hand, I know everyone on the show was hoping to do more and had a lot of ideas that I certainly would like to see, but on the other any show these days reaching five seasons is a fucking miracle, and at least they're being given enough advance notice to be able to make this season into a proper ending. And they've made clear they're not giving up on getting all those plans into the franchise somehow.

Ziro the Hutt

It never ceases to amaze me how nuanced an actor Brent Spiner is. Even when Ira was playing it cool under the guise of Data, you could see in Spiner's eyes and slight mannerisms, the annoyance he had with those he deemed lesser than him; and as the facade unravels, the superciliousness reached a peak with Ira-Data getting in everyone's faces. There is some tremendous acting on this show, but Spiner might be the best of them. The actor who played Ira I always remember from an episode of Babylon 5 (my favourite all time series until Breaking Bad came along), where he owned each scene he was in. W. Morgan Sheppard was a poweful actor with great screen presence. Shame he was only in this episode a few minutes, even playing this egomaniacal genius.