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The Bad Batch 2x05/2x06 Full Reaction! (Patreon)

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Saltire le Hutt

This first one is clearly heavily influenced by Indiana Jones, even down to Kevin Kiner's music imitating John William's scores in those films, and the score is pretty epic here. Its interesting to note when Phee brings up 'the ancients' and Echo mentions the Jedi, to which Phee replies, 'no, older'. In Legends, the formation of the Jedi Order 25,000 years back brought in a long era of prosperity and exploration in the galaxy, and the start of the Old Republic, as worlds came together to trade and seek out opportunities for themselves. So if the wonders inside here are older than all that, then it would be a remarkable discovery for our crew. The star compass used here, is a reference to a similar compass used by Luke in the sequels, and is in fact originally designed by Dave Filoni, despite him not really being involved in those films (a lot would say to the detriment of them too), aside from watching and learning how Rian Johnson directed a live action film with The Last Jedi, which would help educate him when he started live directing in Mandalorian. As you say Jess, there is some more lore added here that links with other stuff. The machine they activate is clearly some type of ancient weapon. In the game Jedi : Fallen Order, the character Cal Kestis (who kind of links into the next episode too which I'll get to) is tasked with finding a holocron containing the names of force sensitives which he and Cere Junda could gather to help rebuild the Jedi Order. To do this, he must explore Zeffo tombs on different worlds to gather clues. The Zeffo themselves were an ancient group of force sensitives, and this machine acts and looks similar to one of their Tomb Guardians in the game; so perhaps this episode is hinting that this machine belonged to them. The Zeffo died out a long time ago, but were very advanced. I haven't been able to uncover if this is Zeffo tech or not; but Lucasfilm has been doing a great job of linking together many elements of Star Wars over recent years, and I'd be surprised if this is not a subtle wink at the game. The game is canon so the Zeffo were a real civilisation in the SW Galaxy. This too wouldn't be the first time Bad Batch has referenced something from that game. In the first season when the crew went to Bracca to get rid of their inhibitor chips, Cal Kestis was in hiding there during their visit, as a frightened youngling like Gungi and its where we start the game from. Hunter doesn't like Phee much and thinks she is filling Omega's head up with nonsense; but he knows nothing else but to be a soldier and isn't realising that Omega can have a life outside of that, and that Phee is helping fire up her imagination. 2x6 : I've seen this episode many times now, and whilst it is a favourite of the season, I can't help but just have an overwhelming sense of sadness throughout. We all had the same reaction to you Jess. I saw this bit in the trailer and it blew my mind, but I wish I hadn't as when I saw him in this episode, that feeling of surprise when he force-grabs his lightsabre, was lost - but you got to experience it the best way! I hate seeing Gungi all alone, who has seen and lost too much, and is struggling to survive. Even at the start here, he escapes from a cage that would have been transporting him to god knows where. The last time we saw him, he was so happy with his fellow 'tribe' : Katooni, Petro, Zatt, Ganodi and sensitive Byph; in that wonderful, fun youngling arc in Clone Wars. I don't even want to think about their fates... Wrecker mentions about it being a long time since they have been to Kashyyyk, and this is a nod to what was supposed to be their introduction in Clone Wars. In one of the unfinished arcs, we were to journey with Yoda "good relations with the Wookies I have, yes.." and team up with the Bad Batch there. In fact you can see some of the unfinished episodes on Youtube still; Wrecker himself looks pretty much exactly the same as his design back then. And also this episode was written by the same writer as that arc, and incorporates many of the same creatures and fawna that were supposed to be in those episodes. When we get there, we see that, guess what, the Empire are there and decimating the place. They have destroyed a village which Gungi saw in his dreams, only furthering his trauma! If you look carefully, the fur under his belt sticks out and is reminscent of a Jedi tunic. He is able to show the spiders through the force however, that they carry no threat to them so they let him pass; and this shows he has some mastery over his force balance still, as we saw something similar in Rebels when Kanan and Ezra were blocked, and could only then bypass the spiders on Atollon, after they rediscovered their own balance. Kashyyyk itself is one of those mystical Star Wars worlds, full of deadly animals, but also a strong connection to the force itself and how much the wookies, despite being technologically advanced, stick with their tribal attachments to the nature of their homeworld. Though Gungi's original path to being a Jedi is taken away from him, he can rediscover his purpose and be a hero to his people as they look to fight off the Empire from their world. And in that, he can still help people as was his destiny when he became a Jedi. We also know that Inquisitors come here later, as Cal Kestis comes to Kashyyyk and they are hunting for him, so hopefully Gungi stayed out of trouble too and kept himself and his tribe, safe. Hunter's line about Omega and Gungi being kids, but not being able to be them in this galaxy, hits hard. This episode is very much anti-war.

Thomas Corp

I know what reaction you refer to. Yeah, I was with you on the heavy crying on that one. I wouldn’t worry about how you looked and sounded because you always look nice, and the reaction was sans sniffles, far as I could discern, so no worries, Jess. And yes, it’s been nice that for a year now, you’ve, for the most part, done away with the pesky sniffling. Now to the episodes. As you say, another day of you watching The Bad Batch and another time of you loving The Bad Batch; the feeling is perpetually mutual. Both episodes are relatively self-contained, yet as you noted, there are threads which bind them to the greater narrative. I’ll speak more on that later. The first one was a complete delight with its Indiana Jones homage. Phee is a fun one. I knew you’d be your historically cautious sort if you were in the batch’s place, whilst still finding Omega’s enthusiasm endearing. You can tell the Indy films don’t exist in this universe. Evidence in one case, is that our group. didn’t watch where they stepped, and they forgot that in the Latin alphabet, Jehovah begins with an I. It gets me with the homage when they have to remove the heart. I got into it myself, and when I watched, both originally and in preparation for the reaction, I was emulating Alfred Molina by tapping my fingertips together in anticipation. Nightmarishly beautiful seeing that removing the heart activates the temple, or more precisely, this FULLY ARMED AND OPERATIONAL BATTLE STATION that looks disturbingly similar to...uh, something else. I confess myself to being a mite wicked in I indulged in a small cackling spell when you had the reaction to the droid that got smelted, because I knew she’d be fine again. And upon your relief at that, I smiled, and said, “Well, there you have it, Jess, no harm, no foul.” A shame they lose the prize, the fortune and glory, yet they still gain illumination. The music is probably the biggest joy of the episode. Just as Kevin Kiner adds to and recalls the majestic tapestry that is the John Williams Star Wars scores, this episode has one extended love letter to John’s equally majestic and mighty tapestry that is his Indiana Jones scores. The highlight for me is that moment when the puzzle is solved with Kevin providing the music that’s The Map Room: Dawn from Raiders of the Lost Ark meets Approaching the Stones from Temple of Doom. It also does make me melancholic as though John does have five Oscars, none of them are for Indiana Jones, even with his being nominated for four out of the five films, and he really should have been nominated for all five. Alas, each time he lost, recently losing for Dial of Destiny to the score in Oppenheimer, and the original three where he should have won, losing to Chariots of Fire, A Passage to India, and The Little Mermaid. The last of those is the one I’m probably the least upset about given how fabulous Alan Menken’s score was for that, and it led to Alan’s streak through the nineties, then again Alan lost for The Hunchback of Notre Dame and none of the songs for that were even nominated, which INFURIATES me to no end, but that’s a separate rant. Shame they don’t recall John’s Grail motif when Phee mentions pursing the cup of the carpenter, sorry, uh, the chalice she mentioned. The second episode was a popular one as I recall. So great to see Omega’s unhesitating defense of Gungi. Speaking of Gungi, your excitement matches most of the fandom with the “Holy FUCKballs!” response. Quite a few fans expressed very strong joy over Gungi’s return, saying things like, “Is that Gungi!? It is! It’s our fluffy boy!!” My own thoughts were, “Unexpected, but not unwelcome.” Your own reaction to finding out the young Wookie was Gungi was exceptionally lovely. I love how Tech notes given Order 66, Gungi’s initial mistrust of the clones makes perfect sense, and he doesn’t take it personally. This is an occasion where the batch might want to keep mum about being in Cid’s employ. Lovely to return to Kashyyyk. A good moment when Hunter notes that it would be unsafe for Gungi to go there, and Echo points out that as a Jedi, he doesn’t have any good options, and I like you acknowledging the sadness of that. The one set of creatures bear a passing resemblance to kinrath, nasty little buggers that were quite a pain to kill as I recall. I was also a wiseass, yelling, “Mind the Star Map, boys!” Yes, this episode, ties into the statements of how Echo is wanting to help people, contrast to Hunter who is not unsympathetic, he’s just wanting to prioritize his family’s safety. Indeed, it is sweet to see them save the day. Bittersweet to see them ruminate on the forced growing up that the children have to go through. And as you note, Jess, how the Empire is seeping its poison into everything. Which makes sense with a Sith Lord in charge of things as they spread their power and poison everywhere. As said Sith Lord’s late master once said, “The Sith are not placid stars but singularities. Rather than burn with muted purpose, we warp space and time to twist the galaxy to our own design.” I thank you for the wonderful reaction, and I too am VERY much looking forward to the next two as they are my favorite of the show. Until then, a lovely reaction, Jess, thank you.

Thomas Corp
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Yeah, I knew you’d catch and love the lovely homage to John’s Indy music throughout. It would indeed be a remarkable find for our heroes if the discovery predates the Jedi and the Sith. The star compass is cool. I get hints of Treasure Planet from it, albeit not as strong as I got from the orb in Ahsoka, there that was really blatant with reference to Tresure Planet. I figured you’d catch the connective tissue to Fallen Order. That’s definitely deliberate the nods to that. I like to think Hunter doesn’t have any overt beef with Phee, he likes her well enough, he’d just prefer that she didn’t fill Omega’s head with all the aventure business. It’s like a dad who doesn’t mind their kid spending time with an aunt or uncle, or perhaps an adult unmarried cousin, as they get along with them well enough. The exception taken is when they start encouraging the kids with ideas or attitudes that the dad doesn’t agree with. Then again, I remember my parents dealing with me being big into the villains in stories since I was little. Mom worrying about it, with Dad noting that I wasn’t hurting anybody, and I was still recognizing right from wrong by acknowledging that the villains aren’t characters you’re meant to emulate even with finding them endlessly compelling, so he was more ok with it, odd though he did find it to be. Yeah, the second episode does have an overwhelming sense of sadness throughout. The reaction Jess had to Gungi is another shining example as to why it’s great that Jess avoids the trailers. You feel for Gungi. Probably best not to think about his Youngling brethren from that arc. A shame we never got to see that arc that explains the good relations with the Wookies that Yoda has. Given the skill shown by Gungi, I gather he made it to padawan prior to Order 66, though maybe not, but I like that idea. There are some fond memories on Kashyyyk, roaming the lower levels. Here’s hoping that Gungi avoided the Inquisitors, particularly seeing as how mystical and deadly the place is, one could see the Grand Inquisitor himself making a personal visit along with the Fourth Sister given how ruthless and vicious she is. Though obviously not the same thing, I feel that sentiment of the kids not being allowed to be kids in the galaxy, that gets a bit too relatable. And it ties in very well with the anti-war theme. As Hawkeye famously said, “War isn’t Hell. War is war and Hell is Hell. And of the two, war is a lot worse.”

Ryan

Well, after we got Star Wars American Graffiti in Book of Boba Fett, it was inevitable we'd get Star Wars Indiana Jones at some point (though if they ever do Star Wars Howard the Duck, I'm leaving). And I imagine you're counting your blessings that among the numerous homages here, one they decided not to include was "Why'd it have to be snakes?". Michelle Ang does especially well here, with both her voice work and the animation staying just on the right side of her hero worship being endearing rather than annoying. Wanda Sykes is also surprisingly good, managing to suppress her usual stand-up persona to make a character who actually feels like she belongs in this world. And for all the questions we're left with, we do have a show set long in the past starting this very night which may just shed some light on this stuff. As someone with the kind of autism that makes nature much easier than people, I'm always up for a story about the trees deciding to march on Isengard (or Fiddler's Green pulling out his sword, if you prefer). Honestly, a Wookie with a lightsaber was already plenty to get me on board. Unfortunately Chewbacca couldn't show up as he's a little busy eating human beings in a pit at this point (hey, I didn't write the movie). Unrelated to the show, but I couldn't let it pass: as I was writing this, word came in that we just lost William Russell at age 99. He lasted longer than many tortoises as Lewis Black puts it, and we got that lovely appearance in Power of the Doctor after which I imagine he felt something like "I can go now." Ian and Barbara are reunited, and I'm currently picturing them turning in delight at that classic Hartnell chuckle as seen in Tales of the TARDIS.

Thomas Corp
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Haha! I second the sentiment of they do Star Wars Howard the Duck, I’m leaving. Jess and I both on being happy about the absence of the snakes, you almost want to quote Sallah, saying, “I told you it would be all right!” Michelle Ang does attain that nice balance quite well, yes. I’m impressed with Wanda Sykes incorporating her usual persona in a way that fits the character and said character just works well in this galaxy. The thought of possibly gaining answers to this episode tonight or in the coming weeks crossed my mind as well, we’ll see how that goes. Quite stressful for our heroes, being trapped in the belly of that steel beast. I hear you on enjoying the march on Isengard type deal. Shame that in this instance, there is no Sir Christopher Lee perfectly conveying the kind of response that a man would reasonably have when the trees in your backyard all got together to fuck your shit up. My own autism has me relate to Tech beyond belief. It’s like on Star Trek, the STRONG relation to Spock, to a lesser extent, Picard, and the STRONG empathy and kinship with Data. Been a while since seeing Solo, was Chewie in those pits by now? I know that takes place about a year before Obi-Wan, did they have Chewie in those pits for that long? Again, been a while, hence my spotty memory on that. Now I’m depressed about William Russell. I hadn’t heard that, and your comment was the first I had, and it made me check a few sites and I saw the headlines. Again, I’m sad now. In terms of outliving tortoises, Olivia de Havilland is usually the first person to spring to mind there, though William had a good long run. That is a lovely sentiment you said about Ian and Barbara being reunited and turning in delight at that classic First Doctor chuckle. It’s very sweet.

Saltire le Hutt
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The Indy films may not exist in Star Wars, but the Ark Of The Covenant does - its on Ryloth! ;) Ha yes, Omega is so like Alfred Molina rubbing his fingers in anticipation, its a great callback to Raiders. Kiner's music is tremendous here, he also does a banging tune in the credits for your two-parter coming up, which I listen to regularly. The devastator machine they activate, is almost like a metallic Godzilla and the sounds they use at it powers up, is like something out of a 50's sci-fi film. Great stuff. On Williams not winning in '81 at the Oscars, I have no complaints personally as I remember telling you Thomas, that Vangelis was one of my favourite composers, and John has enough Oscars on his mantelpiece! I dunno if you've seen Chariots, but the running skit at the start, is on the beach next to my old university, and a friend of mine I used to work with, swears he was one of the extras running in that opening sequence. Mind you he embellished stories even more than Phee does here, so I always took that story with a heavy pinch of salt!! Good call on the batch better keeping shtum about working with Cid, especially as she has a wookie pelt adorned on her office chair!! She's not going to like that chain code job they had at the start of this episode going south either! I'm pretty sure those spiders on Kashyyyk, are indeed Kinrathi. How many times have we all killed them over the years eh! HK-47 was in his element.