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The Acolyte 1x01 Full Reaction! (Patreon)

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Thomas Corp

Yeah, we’re all in uncharted waters here, Jess. This isn’t the furthest back in the timeline that I’ve dealt with in terms of Star Wars stories, but it is the furthest back that we are seeing in live action. So, we have a shared experience of this is all completely new, and I’m very excited about that. We start with a solid and very interesting first episode. It kicks off with a bang with the opening fight scene that has your investment, aided by Carrie-Anne Moss as Master Indara. When the Acolyte dramatically declares about having unfinished business, I instinctively channeled David Carradine as Bill, saying, “Baby... You ain’t kidding.” Thinking about that, makes me think of the idea of David as Bill in this universe, and I say, “Man, Bill would have made a DAMN fine Sith Lord.” A mild jolt when Indara is killed. You know, I think I can tell you what Indara was thinking in her last moments. Because right now I’m thinking the same thing. Actually, I’ve been thinking it for quite some time now: Why, oh why didn’t I take the BLUE pill? I’m with you on thus far, I don’t have any character that’s grabbing me with any real degree of intensity, though I am liking Sol, particularly as he carries an energy that’s similar to Qui-Gon. I liked seeing his teaching session which contained the Youngling seeing the omen of the cleansing fire that eradicated the decay that plagued many across the galaxy. Good times. Sidenote, when they had the subtitle say we were on Coruscant, I deadpanned, “Well. No shit.” I did anticipate you liking PIP. A mild surprise to see you were unaware of Dafne Keen being in this. I did know that Amandla Stenberg was going to be one of the starring roles, and so far, she’s doing great. Yeah, it became somewhat apparent that Osha was not the culprit, or if she was, she did not know about it. She did have a, “Whoa, what, what the barreling FUCK are you talking about!?” type of response to the accusation of murder. I couldn’t help myself when they mention that there is very strong evidence against Osha, I had an Uncle Owen moment, saying, “Like how there was strong evidence against Ahsoka?” You made a good call on the Parent Trap situation, making me say, “VERY GOOD, Jess!” It did cross my mind, but I dismissed it thinking it might be too obvious. I did think that it couldn’t be Force projection as the effort would kill her. I also did think as you did that there might have been some type of literal split-personality at play, so I wouldn’t feel silly about that. Another possibility I thought of was perhaps some sort of Force disguise. Then when Osha started having the vision of Mae, I reconsidered, “...IS this a Dead Ringer type deal?” and it is subsequently delightful, Jess, when you were delighted that you were correct about said Parent Trap situation, and indeed upon revelation of the Acolyte’s identity, we say, “SISTER. So, you have a twin sister.” And to end on that intriguing scene of Mae meeting up with the dreaded Darth Jar Jar. Nah, I’m just fucking with ya, Jess, I don’t know who that is at the end. Regardless, a solid start. Other notes, there was delight seeing Neimoidians, which made me say, “We have new material with Neimoidians. “At last, we are getting results.” How marvelous.” I had a nerd point to the screen when my eye spotted a Selkath in the background. I found that Yord could potentially be a character that may test me some. The impression of him thus far suggests he’s a pole up the keister rule follower even more than Mace Windu was, and we don’t have the badassery of Samuel L. Jackson to balance things out. Then again, when he’s made aware of Osha being a twin, you do see him start to ponder that, and think perhaps Osha is telling the truth, so he doesn’t seem blindly obedient to the dogmatic narrow view of the Jedi. Like I said, a solid episode, that I’m glad you enjoyed, Jess, thank you for the reaction, and I am greatly anticipating the subsequent journey shared through this show.

Saltire

Great seeing a new timeline begin to get explored, and see how the Jedi and Republic are supposed to be at their height in the High Republic, and maybe this series will begin to show the smallest grains that will eventually lead to the corruption of both the government, and the Jedi themselves. Loving the designs here, and it looks movie quality in production values, from the ships, the effects, all the different creatures, solid CGI and it all makes it feel like a relatively real place, unlike some other of the shows which incorporate more of the Volume and don't really use it all that well. Yord is a bit of a dufus, I do not know how he got to the rank of Jedi Knight! However, I kind of love him, he really grew on me a lot over these two episodes. The lead actress, Amandla Stenberg I'm beginning to warm to also, and she has a lot to do here, especially seeing she has to play dual roles as twin sisters, so hopefully she can carry it off. However the real star of the show is Sol, he exudes gravitas and shows compassion and humbleness, as well as being a badass. I've seen many compare him to Qui-Gon Jinn, and I can see that, though I do prefer Sol as I've never been a big Qui-Gon fan really. Some great set-pieces and inventive fight scenes from the very beginning, showing a different take on the fighting styles we've seen. Always fun seeing Carrie-Ann Moss again - she hasn't changed one bit! - though shame she bought it so quickly. However I think we'll see her again in flashbacks as the story unfolds. I like the line that a Jedi shouldn't ignite their lightsabre unless its to maim or kill an opponent. I believe the Jedi of old thought this way too, and that Jedi should seek to solve issues without using their lightsabre. This is a lesson Yord needs to take note of it seems! This is even brought forward to what Kanan told Ezra. Of course in the Skywalker time period, there is a lot of conflict, so its more expected that Jedi use their lightsabres more often. I believe the green Jedi back on Coruscant is a character from the High Republic books, and noting her cloak, perhaps she is a High Council member? I assume so since she was clearly a mentor to Sol and gives him his mission to seek out Osha. I wonder if she is the same race as Luminara and Barriss? The prison escape is pure Star Wars. Dozey chair droids (love their design) getting shut down, a mad big fella with a tentacle strapped to his head, and some bloke with a parasitical gag in his mouth because he's dangerous lol! So it looks like Mae is an assassin for a Sith perhaps, like Asajj Ventress was for Dooku. Maybe he sensed her need for revenge against these Jedi she is going after and is going to use that in order to further his own means, whatever these are.

Ryan
>>140041119

Much like Yaddle in Tales of the Jedi, it was a delight getting confirmation that not all Neimodians talk in Asian Speakee Engrish, and that was presumably just a weird thing those two particular guys liked to do.

Thomas Corp
>>140041119

What’s hilarious about that is one of my brother’s oldest friends, until around last Christmas, never quite made the connection with the Neimoidians and their accents, at least in the films, sounding like Asian stereotypes. My brother and I were at his house, the topic came up, my brother’s friend asked was it always like that and he just never noticed. And I didn’t even blink, did a Nute Gunray impression, “I was not aware of such failure.” The penny dropped, and my brother’s friend had a “Oh, my God. Holy shit!” response.

Saltire
>>140041119

I have never seen the issue with Neimodians speaking as they do (or did). There are only so many accents actors can use and we draw them from real life as we know of no other accents in the universe, so why not Asian? Heck, if we have British accents, American accents, French accents all around Star Wars, why shouldn't we have funny aliens doing other different accents too? The male Neimodian sounds familiar to me, but I couldn't pick out a name in the credits, though I'm sure I've heard him in one of the animations. Oh btw Thomas, I'll take Yord every time over Mace Windu! ;) He's even got a cooler sabre colour as well! :D

Thomas Corp
>>140046858

The exploration into the new timeline is one of the biggest draws for the show. The production is fantastic so far. Yeah, Yord tested me a bit with feeling like a stick in the mud like Mace was without the quarter of a century of investment in the character, and Samuel L. Jackson to balance things out. Though like you noted, Yord does get a good moment or two, and I could see my opinion becoming more favorable. Plus, like you commented, you’ll still take Yord over good old Mace. Amandla I for sure have seen as Rue in The Hunger Games, she was good there. And it also reminds me of how the racist backlash she’s getting from the vocally bigoted crybabies of the fandom is not a first for her, as she got plenty of that when she was Rue, despite the book so BLATANTLY outright saying that Rue was at least not white as she is described as having darker colored skin. As you’re seeing here, she’s doing a solid job playing the dual roles, and has my attention. Sol is a character I’m intrigued by. Strong Qui-Gon energy, which is fine by me as Qui-Gon’s one of the gold standards of the Jedi “how I want them to be” as Rafa once said. I know my dad really liked Qui-Gon a lot, and I could imagine that Dad would have liked Sol. As to Master Trinity, sorry, Indara, I’m less upset about that than I was over how minimal a role Max Von Sydow had in The Force Awakens. I knew you would love that line about using a lightsaber. Mind you, there is less open conflict in the galaxy compared to the time of the main saga, like you said. The Jedi you mention, I did hear that she is pre-existing from High Republic material. Possibly High Council member. I believe she is the same species as Luminara and Barriss. The prison escape was a riot. Mae does seem akin to what Ventress was for Count Dooku and what the Inquisitorius was for the Emperor and Darth Vader.

Ryan
>>140041119

Maybe the movie could have gotten away with it if it was just them, but then you throw in Greedy Jew Watto and Goofy Dumb Black Guy Jar Jar, and it's just impossible to avoid the implications.

Thomas Corp
>>140041119

To be honest, I didn’t quite make the Asian accent connection, nor was I aware of people having the problems with it until the first half of high school. I also didn’t make the Jewish connection with Watto until about the same time. The Jar Jar one stood out, though as a kid, I was just lukewarm to Jar Jar, only around late high school/college did I get the complaints about how annoying he got. Each one by themselves, I don’t strictly speaking have issue with as they are memorable. I get when people express displeasure about it, I’m not saying I’m unsympathetic to that. I suppose Lucas just didn’t quite think through how it could be interpreted. I just found it hilarious that my brother’s friend never made the connection until last Christmas. I also laugh at how as a kid, like I said, I had no overt issue with Jar Jar, yet I wasn’t nuts about him either, whereas Nute Gunray was the more annoying one and I gleefully anticipated his comeuppance in Revenge of the Sith. Now, Jar Jar is an endurance test, though Ahmed Best is as he always was, amazing. That man really is fantastic. And Nute Gunray has grown on me as a prime love to hate character. And yes, Saltire, I know you’ll still take practically any Jedi over Mace.

Ryan

Since you don't watch trailers, I should point out that Carrie Anne Moss was given the full Drew Barrymore in Scream treatment, doing everything they could to give the impression she'd be a major character so it would be a huge shock when she immediately died (though some fans did suspect something was up since all her stuff was so clearly just in one room). The really exciting thing for me is seeing the franchise flex muscles it hasn't used in years, trying to tell an interesting story that will grab people's attention purely on its own merits without a single already popular character to fall back on. Even Rogue One had Vader and Tarkin, and Rebels brought in 3PO and R2 as soon as humanly possible. I suppose we could get an appearance by Yoda at some point, but I really hope they have the guts to not do that, much like I thought during Fargo Season 5 which ended up being the show's first season to never once call back to a previous part of the setting. And so far they're really pulling it off, instantly sucking me into wanting to know what's going on and what's going to happen with these people. I first caught on to the big twist when Osha makes no attempt to use the Force in the prison cell despite how skilled Mae was with it in the opening scene, though my mind went toward split personality at first. And I really don't envy them the task of casting a child version of the twins, when most everyone has seen The Hunger Games and knows exactly what Amandla Stenberg at that age should look like. I got hugely attached to Lee Jung-jae during Squid Game, and this is shaping up to be just as good. It's especially impressive that he didn't speak a word of English before taking this role, and probably learned at least some of these lines phonetically. But the result is similar to Bela Lugosi as Dracula, where his clearly putting so much thought into everything he says fits the character perfectly. I'm very impressed that you instantly recognized Dafne Keen under the makeup and without expecting her; I went through both episodes with no idea and learned later from reviews. Of course, a big part of that is her playing pretty much a Vulcan here that couldn't be more different from the hugely volatile X-23 (and even Lyra was pretty quick to anger). And then, poor dumb Yord. One part I noticed is that the Jedi of this time put a lot of emphasis on lightsabers only being an absolute last resort, while this guy not only is very quick to go for it when Osha seems to be pulling a weapon, but he also casually uses it as a goddamn flashlight (and with no reaction from the others as if they've long given up trying to stop him). Charlie Barnett was fantastic in the show runner's previous show Russian Doll, playing quite a complex role, so I'm hoping we get some big development from him.

Thomas Corp
>>140052204

The promotional material that I did see, I did notice they weren’t showing much of Carrie-Ann Moss. So, in retrospect, whilst it was a surprise, that marble rolled forward, and clicked, “That’s why we never saw much of her in the adverts.” Yeah, this is the exciting thing of there’s no big familiar characters to have as a safety net. Like you said, even Rogue One had Darth Vader, Grand Moff Tarkin, and 3PO and R2. And Rebels even opened with a scene with Vader himself. Good Fargo comparison, and the show’s doing great at sucking you in. It does seem a consensus view that we seemed to think split-personality with Osha. I was just noticing even her body language read differently, which kudos to Amandla, and good point on the casting of the younger versions of her characters. I’m very happy to see you make the comparison to Bela as that was on my mind, the whole time, watching Sol’s scenes. I’m just noting that like Bela in his earliest stage work, which he then weaponized so well as Dracula, how there’s the learning the lines phonetically, and it gives Jung-jae’s performance as Sol an immensely strong focus, and razor sharp concentration, and it works beautifully. I knew about Dafne being in this, I just didn’t do much digging as to who she was playing. Loving the Vulcan energy she’s bringing. I’m getting a kick out of everyone slightly dumping on Yord. I haven’t seen Russian Doll, so I can’t compare, but the actor is doing good here.

Ryan
>>140052204

Russian Doll starts out as a goofy Groundhog Day setup, but gradually turns into a deeply emotional exploration of family trauma and the struggle to move past it, with some of the most surreally horrifying imagery I’ve seen in anything. If this show even comes close to what Leslye Headland pulled off there, we’re in for a real treat.

Saltire
>>140041119

Aye true Ryan, but there is no offence meant with any of it, and that's my issue with people and this cancel culture that seems to be a thing now. Therefore things will just become a bit duller because they have to go with more generic accents and stuff, in order not to upset some.

Saltire
>>140041119

Haha yes, I would take any Jedi over Mace or Anakin! Gimme Coleman Trebor every time over these two! :P

Saltire
>>140046858

Damn, I had a big reply lined up and I accidentally pressed back up, so lost it! Will have to do a brief summation then. It doesn't surprise me that the bigots are out in force because Amandla is the wrong skin colour and gender for these imbeciles. She's nailing it well for me so far, as she's likeable enough as Osha, and goes through all the paroxysms of emotion, as Mae. Yes Sol does have some Qui-Gon energy to him, and perhaps like Qui-Gon, why he isn't apparently on the High Council, since he seems to follow his own path and has to get called back from Master Vernestra (who, yes she is one of the High Republic book characters and is indeed the same species as Luminara/Barriss as a Mirialan. It is a shame Max Von Sydow never got more than one scene in Force Awakens, though he does come away with a killer line about Kylo : "Something far worse has happened to you". I believe his character helps Luke accrue artifacts, and I hope we get an animation one day with Luke and R2 off on adventures, and Lor San Tekka can join them. Star Wars does have a bad habit of giving acting titans only a handful of scenes, as again in Force Awakens, Dame Harriet Walter is cast in one brief scene, where she patches up Chewbacca and tells him how brave he is jovially, as if speaking to a puppy she is bandaging! :) It is interesting to hear some of the takes by Qimir and Mae, and the mysterious Sith about the Jedi, and how differently they see things. I believe there are some heavy KOTOR references throughout - or will be, as if Kreia is writing the script! Will be interesting to hear more when it comes.

Saltire
>>140052204

I was hoping we would see some familiar faces on the Council, as there is plenty still about at this time, Yoda, Yaddle, Yarrael Poof, Tera Sinube, Oppo Rancisis and I believe (and if Filoni has his way!) Plo Koon could be there too. Vernestra said a small council will be gathered though, so perhaps indeed there may not be any familiar faces on it. Stay tuned for next week I guess. Yes you can hear how thick Lee Jung-jae's accent is in speaking English, as if he has just learnt it. However thats not stopping him from being the most compelling character so far. I'm loving Sol. I'm also all in on team Yord, he is a bit goofy and impulsive, but hopefully we see him grow as the series continues. He's already backing Osha when doubting her at the start, and backs Sol when Mae is told she's still alive. There is hope for him to develop. As I said in my own thoughts, just because Jedi get bestowed the rank of Jedi Knight, that doesn't mean they are done learning and growing in maturity. We saw that Anakin got promoted too soon, that Kanan was Knighted before he was truly ready and that even the mighty Obi-Wan still had much to learn, even when a High Council Jedi Master. Go Yord!!

Thomas Corp
>>140046858

Yeah, I hate it when you accidentally erase the comments that you planned to write. Oh, yeah, the bigots are showing their stupidity just as much as they did with their yelling about Amandla as Rue in The Hunger Games which was beyond fucking stupid back then, just as it is now. The similar Qui-Gon energy is probably the reason why Sol is not on the High Council. He seems to walk his own path. Max did have that badass line, in addition to that winner of a line when referring to Leia, “The General? To me, she’s royalty.” I know that Lor San Tekka is in some expanded universe material. I’d take a season of Tales of the Jedi with him and Luke. The great Harriet Walter was another example of me saying, “Son of a BITCH! That’s all the screentime she gets!?” Looking forward to more Qimir and Mae, especially with the STRONG KOTOR vibes in this show, as if that wise old woman were writing the scripts. More of that, pretty please, with sugar on top!

Thomas Corp
>>140052204

If Filoni was running this, I’d certainly expect Plo, though I don’t know offhand his age. Not that that would stop Filoni. The retaining of the accent makes sense given the differences in language. It’s like Bela who never could shed his accent given the drastic difference between Hungarian and English. Plus, he was about thirty-eight upon his arrival in America, and in Lee’s case, he’s in his fifties. The results speak for themselves though as Sol is awesome so far. Yeah, there’s hope for Yord yet. That is the recurring theme of the Jedi ascending the ranks before they’re ready, even Obi-Wan getting promoted to Knight then Master before the time was right. Granted, he admirably did live up to his responsibilities as best he could. And we all saw the legend that Kanan ended up being.

Ryan
>>140046858

Ever read any of the William Shakespeare's Star Wars books? They're naturally mostly a joke, but some of the longer speeches can be quite moving, most of all one by Lor San Tekka that goes into how his age means he witnessed everything that's gone down since Phantom Menace, and his thoughts on how history is cycling around to that kind of thing again.

Thomas Corp
>>140046858

I have all of those books, they’re wonderful. That is a great moment. The best part of all those books is how the Emperor’s dialogue fits perfectly with the iambic pentameter, which is fitting considering Ian’s theatrical background. I love when Ian was given the copy of The Jedi Doth Return so he could read some of the one big scene, and it’s BREATHTAKINGLY AWESOME hearing him read it.