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Star Trek: TNG 2x12 Full Reaction! (Patreon)

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2024-06-08 17:00:06
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Star Trek TNG 2x12 Full Reaction - Sesskasays

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Ryan

This was another time where you helped a good deal in getting through an episode I've never cared for, so thanks for that. Of course, a big part of that is Data getting so much into the role of a high roller, and one of the prime appeals of this whole season is seeing the show's crew getting more comfortable in how much different stuff they can give Brent Spiner to do. But for me it's not nearly enough to overcome the issue at the very heart of the story. I'm not going to say that stories where the whole point is "There are no answers and nothing makes sense" can never work, but if you're going to do one, you need to work VERY hard to not give the impression that you're just using that message as an excuse to be lazy, and this episode doesn't get there at all. And of course the delicious irony is that Fermat's Last Theorem actually did get a workable proof less than a decade after this. TNG was already over by then so it fell to Deep Space Nine to try to cover that issue with a line about how people are still searching for a better one (which is less of a reach than you might think, since the proof we have is certainly not the one Fermat claimed to have, using several concepts that were created after his time). There are two bits in particular that really turn me off here. First is the shot of them trying to leave the hotel, where if I was directing, I would have used a split-screen to show them coming back in at the exact moment they left through the other side (and the episode Datalore shows how great the show could do them), or failing that, closer shots of both sides connected by a whip pan. But just using one long shot makes it obvious we're just seeing the actors walk all the way around in it, so the impression isn't so much that the door leads right back in, but that they suck at using a revolving door and barely avoided going full Buddy the Elf. And second, there was apparently some mix-up with the prop department who delivered a dead body with less meat than a Chicken McNugget as Arnold Rimmer would put it, but they still refused to change Data's line about how well-preserved it is. I'd like to think for the sake of my own sanity that Spiner at least felt awkward saying that on set.

Thomas Corp

So, interesting that this was an episode you’re fairly positive that you’ve seen before. Not one I’m remembering from viewings past. Must not have watched this one much. Or maybe I just missed this one. I’ll likely have the same thing with upcoming episodes in that, they’ll be familiar, yet memory is fuzzy. Barring the ones I obsessed over and/or the big ones that everybody remembers. Concerning the episode, this one would be in the lower part of my ranking thus far. Not as low as I have the Okana or the cryofreeze ones. I’m happy that you found it interesting. You’re right that “low stakes” isn’t quite the right way to describe it, yet it does feel like not the greatest sense of danger for the crew, which is nice that you don’t have to contend with tension much. You do feel bad for the poor guy who got trapped. I do like how the guy makes a point to say he doesn’t blame nor hold ill will toward the beings that set up the whole thing. Even though it ends up a living hell, the guy still expresses kind enough words about the beings. It was nice seeing the three members of the crew work together. Worf did feel slightly short changed. I concur that Picard probably was envious that he couldn’t be down there exploring too. And I agree that there is quite a joy seeing Picard converse about things he has a great passion for. And as you note, there is a love for how Picard loves an intellectually stimulating mental challenge. I’m much the same, alas, I’m shit with math. Of course, Picard’s enthusiasm disappears when he sees what a tawdry dime store potboiler the book is, leading to that perfect, “Oh, merde.” look that Picard sported upon discovering that. You know it’s bad when Deanna opts out. Could not keep a straight face every time they said Mickey D’s name. He did know how to make an entrance. That suit and coat combo, though. Jarring to see Noble Willingham compared to his role in Walker Texas Ranger. The scenes with him and that poor woman, make you say, “Well, that part of that book is horrendous.” Figured your reactions to that would be what they were. It was great when he bets when Data said not to. When it comes to saying, “I told you so”, I never say that, and I don’t like people who do. But Data did fucking tell the guy not to bet, and he didn’t listen, and I like how you pointed that out too. Shame there was no Wallace Shawn as the blackjack dealer from hell, though that role that he played was in a movie that wouldn’t have been out until eight years after this episode. All in all, a fun reaction. Other observations. I figured you’d enjoy the swanky music. I had to look up Sam Anderson when you said you recognized him. I do too from a few things, but I said, “What is it that you know him from?” then I see he was in Angel, I said, “Ah.” Concerning the split in the reaction, I could hear the storm, but until you drew attention to it, I just thought the sound was part of the show, so it was no bother. I did hear Rocco just before you said you needed to pause due to his being scared of the storm. Once that was known that was the reason for the reaction being split up, not a problem, Jess. You had to make sure he was ok in his little nook. As you said, when Rocco’s scared, you taking care of him takes precedence. I don’t mind the snoring as it means he’s all right. Hopefully, the rest of the storm wasn’t too trying for him, if at all. Oh, and when you spoke of The Walking Dead leaving you with trauma of revolving doors. Considering the scene you refer to... Yeah, that’s a, that’s a reasonable response. Thanks for the fun reaction, Jess.

Josef Schiltz

"Don't go through that revolving door!" "Why not?" "My father's in it!" "What's his name?" "McGilliguddy!" "Why, that's my name too!" "Father!" "Son!" "Don't go through that revolving door!" "Why not?" "My father's in it!" "What's his name?" "McGilliguddy!" "Why, that's my name too!" "Father . . . . " Worf: "I . . . I . . . I must be losing my mind!" McGilliguddy: . . . . . "You too?"

Ziro the Hutt

Not a favourite of the season this one, but as with many episodes in this series that miss the mark, the best things about them are the acting and chemistry of the crew, especially Data here getting into his element when they stumble across the plan to buy the place in order for the story to reach its conclusion, and for the away team to get out of there.