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The Acolyte 1x03 Full Reaction! (Patreon)

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Thomas Corp

It was great that this episode dedicated the time to where it all began. When you lit up saying, “We might get some answers.”, I quipped, “Yes, “some” being the operative word.”, which you then noted yourself, that made me laugh a little. An intriguing reveal to learn the girls belong to a coven of witches. Possibly Dathomirian in nature, possibly something else. It is a great character study of the sisters. When I theorized about the tones and themes of this show, I was not expecting the strong Dead Ringer feel of this. A most welcome surprise. I like your thoughts on the exploration of pressure put on people, let alone young girls. It is IMMENSELY delightful to dive into some murky waters with the Jedi. These witches, after all, didn’t seem to be bothering anyone, unless there’s something we as of yet do not know about. And yet, the Jedi arrive in a fairly passive aggressive manner, (Emphasis on the aggressive side of that.) and are quite insistent on welcoming the children into the order. With permission of course, which as you noted, Jess, it didn’t sound like they were going to much take no for an answer, which by all accounts, the Republic may not consider it illegal, and it seems consistent with the Jedi past and future, yet ethically, it’s a bit shaky. Or at least it can be perceived as such, and I noticed how you had similar reactions to my own at spots. I just like the look into what happens when families are not particularly receptive to Jedi coming and taking their kids. You mention how the issue is a hot topic on both sides of the argument. I do confess that I sometimes am simplistic in my jokes and attitudes about it, for instance, when the line is said that the Jedi don’t just take children, I let out a tea-kettle cackle. Even so, there is nuance to the issue, much though there are those of us that have too much fun with our facetious manner in talking about it. Question does remain about the girls’ birth. And since the coven is a trifle vague about the apparently immaculate conception of the twins, except to say that the Jedi would not take kindly to how it happened, I can only surmise that they were powerful and wise enough to be able to use the thread to tie together the midichlorians to create... life. I did like their mother saying what she said about power, leading me to say, “Yes, yes, “There is no good and evil. There is only power and those too weak to seek it.” Speaking to my heart on that one.” It did explore well what happens when children express desires for a life different from what their parents expect. I can imagine that would be me if by some miracle I ever had kids. Again, love your loving the contrasts of Osha and Mae, and how Mae is most chagrined that Osha would even so much as express the smallest interest in not being a witch, leading to her, well, she overreacted, your reaction to that being fantastic. I heard Dad loudly in my head during the latter parts of that, given we still haven’t seen one or two things, and he would ponder on that, as you and I are. Certainly, it seems very convenient that Sol just so happens to be there to save Osha, and it is highly conspicuous that we don’t see what happened to the adults. Which makes me wonder what it is that the Jedi did. Or what the witches did. Or both. But most likely, the Jedi did something. It seems to be the real question that this episode, and perhaps, the question that the series itself poses: Can you find the wolves in this picture? I most heartily take your point of hoping for nuance in the episodes to come. For although the episode answered questions, there are still loose threads to be explained, which no doubt the subsequent episodes will speak to us about these loose threads. And I look forward to when that happens as it is wonderful sharing this show with you, Jess, as wonderful as this reaction was. Thank you for the wonderful reaction, and I await your future reactions to this show with great interest. Until then, a lovely reaction, Jess.

Ryan

If for some reason you wanted proof that some higher power supports this show, just look at how they found identical twins who look so much like Rue that we can easily buy them as young Amandla Stenbergs, and are both good enough actresses to carry an entire episode. It's on the same level as Orange is the New Black hiring Laverne Cox and only then learning she had a twin who could play the character in pre-op flashbacks. I certainly wasn't expecting such a big infodump this early, but it's also a relief since the show was already edging perilously close to where it would have just been silly if people kept talking about what happened without giving a single specific. And of course we clearly still don't have the whole story. The witches all just lay down and died in a room that wasn't even on fire yet? That gets a Kevin McAllister-level "I don't think so." And we still don't know why Mae was so insistent that the Jedi attack unarmed people, or how Tarbin lost his eye (and yes, I'm sticking to that being important somehow). Lee Jung-jae is magnificent in that last scene, selling his story enough that we buy she believes it, but still showing hints that he's hiding what really happened, until he can finally just let the deception completely show on his face (a hug is just a way to hide it, after all). It's a very tricky thing to write a situation where you can see every side of a disagreement and not have an obvious side you sympathize with, but this pulls it off pretty well. The Jedi break into this place and tell some obvious lies about their intentions, but the witches certainly do their part in raising the tension more than it needed to be, plus it's clear that their parenting is the cause of Mae's extreme co-dependency. Mae is also now reminding me very much of Demona from Gargoyles, where all her obsession with revenge was deep down just hiding from her own guilt, including what I very much suspect is a deliberate reference to her classic line "What have I d-what have THEY done?" One of my big hopes for this show was we'd get to see whole other cultures, and this very much satisfies me there. It's a fascinating different view of how the Force works, plus it means the gays have successfully ruined another franchise. All for the good as far as I'm concerned.

Thomas Corp
>>140674496

The casting of the twin girls has proved most impressive. I quite liked the infodump. Much though I do like a show taking its time with the tell rather than showing, and the actors sell everything so well, it is nice to now have at least some greater context. The rather suspicious nature of the witches does warrant that Kevin McCallister response, love that reference, and I laugh at how instantaneous I could hear it in my head. There are the unanswered questions such as Mae’s insistence of Jedi harming innocent people, Torbin’s rather noticeably blinded eye that wasn’t there when we first see him in this episode. Lee does well in the last scene of Sol informing Osha what happened, whilst conveying there’s more to this tragic tale than he is telling, complete with him demonstrating why one should never trust a hug. It’s just a way to hide your face, after all. They are doing a very good balancing act of each party has strong points and sympathies are about evenly divided. In my case, there is somewhat strong anti-Jedi sentiment, yet also I acknowledge that the witches aren’t exactly advocating for a peaceful resolution to this, understandable such a response is. That’s an excellent observation comparing Mae to Demona. The one line does feel a deliberate reference. The exploration of the cultures is lovely. And there is great enjoyment how this is another show causing certain crybabies to implode whilst watching the show. Tis indeed all for the greater good.

Ryan
>>140674219

I like the Halo show more than it seems most people, and a big part of that is it has the guts to say "You know, it's pretty fucked up that the so-called heroes of this franchise regularly kidnap children and brainwash them into soldiers." Ever since it came out, I've been hoping for something like that with the Jedi, so this is really feeding me.

Ryan
>>140674496

Sometimes I reply to them, "Just say you hate it because you hate women/gays/whatever. I'd actually have more respect for that position."

Saltire

Good to see a focus on some of what went on during that mission and an earlier background story of the twins. Firstly I love the design of this place inside the tip of a mountain, with some lovely Jovian style planets in the sky. And it feels like a living breathing place, that can be missing a bit when the Volume is in use in some of the other shows. That Zabrak witch also looked so cool, a mix of genes it seems with her too, with her horns at the front and having hair at the back; though we know the Dathomiri Zabrak women like Ventress, Talzin, Merrin and Elsbeth don't have horns and can grow hair easily. We see that there is a slight sibling rivalry with the kids, and that they are quick to wind up and act out with each other, and that its usually Mae that causes the strife. She also seems unnaturally possessive of her sister, and we see how that increases as the episode goes on. I do like a focus on other areas of the force with other people who use it, like these witches here, and it seems they did some of their magicks in creating the twins in the first place. Naturally they want to protect the children, since they are the only ones there and are probably the future of their coven. So when the Jedi come calling to seek them out, they understandably are defensive with them and one uses some darkside ability to take out Torban (and we saw Mae do that with her eyes in a previous episode during a vision). Master Indara doesn't seem to want to take no for an answer and hides behind Republic regulations about Jedi getting first dibs on potential recruits. Very murky indeed, and she doesn't convince when she says they won't take the twins from the coven without their permission. Osha seems to want to go with the Jedi, perhaps to get away from her possessive sister, to see the galaxy instead of remaining here, and wants to do something other than whats expected of her. However she also feels under pressure to lie when being tested (a nice callback to Episode I too). Sol sees through this though and he just oozes compassion and sincerity to try and get Osha to have faith in herself and make a decision. I like the talk with her mother too, who respects her enough to tell her the truth and that she should follow the path of her own choosing, even if it is painful for herself as a parent, that potentially she won't see her again. So then we get to Mae showing such evil at that age, in either wanting to keep her sister for herself, or to kill(!!) her so that no-one else can have her. This part on first viewing I felt was slightly rushed and that somehow then the whole place falls apart and ends up killing everyone aside from the twins and the Jedi. It does however give us some answers as to what happened, but I'm with Ryan in that I don't see that as the whole story and that maybe something more nefarious happened as the fire was raging.

Thomas Corp
>>140677574

The place did look very nice. I did like the Zabrak witch. As to the horns, perhaps she is a sub-species. Or perhaps different genetics. We are, after all, a century before the main saga. An intriguing look into the sisterly dynamic with Mae being the more aggressive of the two. As to her rather unhealthy possessiveness, “Attachment leads to jealousy. The shadow of greed, that is.” I love the focus on this coven of witches. Do sort of wish we could have a little John Williams with Dance of the Witches playing, but the music we got has been very good. It does appear that they were able to do what Palpatine may or may not have done vis-à-vis the birth of Anakin. Naturally, they would be protective. The one Dark Side ability seems reminiscent of Talzin and what she could do. Yeah, Master Indara does not provide the most convincing argument that Osha will only be given the red pill with full permission from her family. (Of course, Jess, my brother, and I were very much favorable to the blue pill side of that equation. The nice steak dinners being a big incentive.) The whole scene, they seem dead set on taking the kids. I know you’ve often been defensive of the Jedi as it concerns their recruitment methods. I respect that. What I’ve often said, and I know Jess has expressed similar sentiments, it always seems odd how everyone talks about it as it’s always morally clean, and it is a big highlight of how the Jedi here are acting according to their code, and possibly in a completely legal way per Republic laws. Ethically, though, it’s a bit shakier than they’re claiming it is. It is good to explore Osha’s desire to be a Jedi, and her reasons for that, and it does seem like Sol is genuinely compassionate and supportive of any decision she would make. The Phantom Menace call back was a nice touch, figured you’d catch that. And it is nice to see Osha’s mother have that talk with her. Rushed though Mae’s actions and motivations do seem to be, we are experiencing them from Osha’s perspective, so maybe there’s more to it than we currently know. Fair comment you made, though. And we still are waiting for the show to speak to us about these loose threads that remain. If nothing else, I’m loving this show. Far more than the goddamn crybabies who really have nothing better to do than to leave unnecessary and uncalled for comments on Jess and others’ videos. There’s no pleasing some people.

Ryan
>>140677574

Sol was paying attention to Miles Morales’ teacher, the only way to get every answer wrong is to know the right ones. I’m currently leaning toward Mae not starting the bigger fire at all, it was always burning since the world’s been turning. Maybe the Zabrak mother was so dead set against the Jedi affecting their culture that she’d rather kill everyone.

Thomas Corp
>>140677574

Possible. Although I sense there is more to the Jedi’s actions than we have been told. I can buy the idea of the Zabrak mother doing something, if not setting the fire itself. Good song reference, by the way.

YodatheHobbit

It's so strange that some people in the online SW community are hating on this show just because of a single writing decision by the writer. So much work put into shows like these, SO much talent on display and people completely dismissing it for a single thing is so freaking petty. It's like they've removed all empathy from themselves for characters. Imagine being a kid being told a story in bed and doing that to your mom as a child. "That's dumb mom, falls asleep" lol Some people have forgotten why we listen to stories.