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The Boys 4x01 Full Reaction - Sesskasays

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Ryan

"They're only tools for our amusement." Kind of odd for Kripke to slip his thoughts about Destiel shippers into dialogue, but let's roll with it. So, Jensen Ackles, Jim Beaver, Jeffrey Dean Morgan. I can only imagine Jared is staring forlornly at his phone now that the Walker remake's done. That gasp at his arrival may just be the most adorable thing ever in one of these, and seeing as he's apparently a great enough actor to arrive in The Walking Dead killing two of its most beloved characters and then, if the way the fans talk is anything to go by, turning that character into the nicest, cuddliest, sexiest person in TV history, this should really be something good. Mostly I really loved this premiere, and the news that the show has a definite endpoint is very welcome, but there are a couple creative decisions here I find pretty baffling. Three seasons of building the relationship between Frenchie and Kimiko, and then apparently they panicked at losing all their gay representation with Maeve's departure so it's all thrown away. And rather more damaging is everything involving Sister Sage. The ever-present problem with superintelligent characters is they can still only be as smart as the people writing them, and even with that in mind she still comes up seriously short here. Even putting aside her master plan being such a basic frame job, it's downright surreal watching her go from a proud black woman to eagerly jumping to help a now open white supremacist in just a couple minutes of conversation. Even Adric as written in Four to Doomsday would say "Wow, that's pathetic." I'm really hoping there's some reveal coming that she's running her own scheme here, or this is going to be a real chore every time she shows up. On the other hand, I am absolutely here for Tilda Swinton as a femme fatale octopus. Where's that spinoff?

Thomas Corp

I would not describe Negan as having become the nicest and cuddliest person in tv history. The question of sexiest I leave to people’s individual preference, though he is a good-looking man. Of course, Jeffrey is amazing in that universe, and Negan is second to Samantha Morton as Alpha for being my favorite in the Walking Dead universe. Way I have it, fans responded in the manner in which they have due to the fact that he has had a very strong character arc. He’s still plenty ruthless. Still behind on this show, save for a few things. I know Love Sausage as I looked that up out curiosity of what everybody was talking about. I know the one reveal about Stromfront as my brother has been vocal about his opinions about that. My brother did show me the one Soldier Boy scene with the damn good Rambo III parody and the Bill Cosby joke which was hysterical. I do have to say: Tilda Swinton as a femme fatale octopus? Oh, my God. That fucking sounds like one of the best goddamn things ever, and I NEED it in my life. Holy shit!

Ryan

Yeah, I was talking about the fans much more than the show itself. I stopped watching after Season 3 because I was so pissed off at how it ruined my favorite character from the comic, and ever since I've just picked up snatches of public reaction. And it was especially amusing that after the huge shock everyone had at Glen's death, the next I heard was a bunch of squealing fangirls going on about how hot he is and one of the greatest heroic characters ever written. I'm sure that journey makes sense when you're watching the show, but I've never felt very motivated to go back and do it, so I'm stuck having just that dichotomy.

Thomas Corp

It does prove to be a jarring and somewhat humorous dichotomy at times, yes. Again, “heroic” is a very strong word to describe Negan. Glenn’s death is one that hurt, and Jess has stated that it’s stuck with her ever since she saw the scene. I’ve loved the analysis that Jess has had about Negan and how his arc ties with Maggie as a result of what he did to Glenn. Specifically, the manner in which Jess just dives into both characters, and though she favors Maggie, Jess does take the time to really analyze and discuss Negan, it’s great.