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Classic Who "Earthshock" Parts 3&4 Full Reaction! (Patreon)

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Ryan

And now you have full context for the moment in Power of the Doctor where Five proves to Tegan it's really him when his response to the word "Cybermen" is a sad "Adric." Even with how much the fans at the time hated him, this was immediately hailed as a hugely emotional moment, especially his last words "I'll never know if I was right," which is really haunting to my OCD brain (I mentioned in Ahsoka how I would have gone totally nuts in Ezra's position, having no idea for years if my plan worked). And unlike, say, the fate of Amy and Rory, it actually feels earned by the tone the whole story has had rather than just being a cheap, desperate plea for your emotions. And of course, the greatest tragedy of the whole thing is that Matthew Waterhouse is seemingly the ONLY surviving actor from the classic series who can't make an appearance on the show now, which he absolutely deserves after all the shit he went through. The closest he's gotten is a cameo in The Fiveish Doctors Reboot, again saying that last line.

Andrew Vignaux

"Now I'll never know if I was right.", Adric, "Earthshock" Wow! What a story! What an ending! That was a real shock to me on my first viewing as well. The first companion since Katarina and Sara in "The Daleks' Master Plan" and certainly the first long-term companion to be killed in the episode. And we have the callbacks to Adric's first story: his star for mathematical excellence; and as he dies he's holding his brother's reed belt - the symbol of the Outler rebels in "Full Circle". Wow, wow! Adric wasn't my favourite companion of all time but this was a great story made super-memorable by Adric's ending. "I now have control over you, Doctor. All I need do is threaten the woman's death for you to obey me.", Cyber Leader, "Earthshock" But back to the story itself - good action by Tegan (the overalls are a look, I guess) and the troopers. Great interactions between the Doctor and Adric on the freighter. I really like that fusion of the Cyberman with the door - that's a cool image of the Cyberman stuck - and that action is really nicely directed. You made a great point in your outro that this story shows that there can be real consquences for TARDIS travel.

Thomas Corp

Overall, yeah, a solid Cyberman story. A good showcasing, like you said, of the history between the Doctor and the Cybermen. It is a situation that does indeed give you pause if Nyssa is a little on edge. The captain is quite the fun character. I quite liked her a lot, and I loved your comments about her. Tegan had some good moments. I caught the connection to the dinosaurs before you did, it seems. They said sixty-five million years, and the penny dropped. Your reaction to the reveal was great. It was something how Adric was doing the work, and you were encouraging him every step of the way. Unfortunately, it also meant the heart was sinking in anticipation of what was to come. Many a hug, I wished to give you when you started screaming in disbelief. It really says something where even with Adric not being a particularly beloved companion, his death is done in such a way that it gets everybody, going by what I’ve heard. Even those with the most bitter and blackened hearts shed a tear at this one, and I say that as a man with a bitter and blackened heart that this story stomps on. I’m of course too young to have seen this first run, but as I understand it, the consensus view, and I see the other fellas have said much the same, it gets you right in the heart. For being completely and utterly blindsided by the ending, all things considered, you did well with the post-reaction thoughts. It’s like your reaction to Kanan’s death in Rebels where, though the tears we’re stronger, you still delivered very well-spoken thoughts. In terms of Who, you did much better than that thoroughly devastating reaction to the Ponds’ last episode, not to mention when you lost your honey in the Christmas special where Eleven’s hour ended as the clock struck Twelve. Mind you, I’m saying this with complete understanding of how difficult it was for you to formulate thoughts following those painful episodes. I relate. In my case, it was Clara’s death. Hers is the death that remains the very close second in terms of saddest television deaths. Or at least the very close second in terms of television deaths that wounded me the most. That is a wound that is NEVER healing. When I first saw that one, I couldn’t even tell you how or when I regained the ability to speak without sobbing. Much though there was COPIOUS sobbing when Twelve regenerated, that one I handled better as Moffat gave me EXACTLY the type of reaction that I wanted and needed. It’s a thing though, there are those moments in shows when we are all just at a loss for words, thus we won’t begrudge you in not being able to properly articulate thoughts or feelings about what you just viewed. And again, you do so much better than I ever could, so you have nothing to be ashamed of for being so blown away by the ending to this episode. Speaking of that, when you started profusely apologizing for your choice of words, I was a heartless asshole, who instinctively quipped, “Technically, Adric got blown up, not blown away.” And it shows you’re a better person than I, Jess, as you recognized the joke was too soon and apologized. Me, I would have done like Gilbert Gottfried where I’d make the joke, then follow with the rendition of The Aristocrats with nary a hint of shame. But that’s just me. In any event, a truly terrific reaction, Jess. One you should be very proud of.

Thomas Corp
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That got all of us it seemed when Five and Tegan recalled Adric in that special. You know things were filmed and written right when even with the bile towards Adric, his death is that devastating to the fandom. That “I’ll never know if I was right.” line would drill away in my head as well. One thought with it would be the grim, “Well, I’m going to die soon anyway. At least, the torment will be brief.” Then again, they say that with a man’s last moments, time can draw out like a blade, so, I’d probably be severely tormented either way. That is rotten about how the death limits Matthew being able to return. You could still do it. Seeing as Davies has gotten more fantastical with the newest season, and provided you write it well, you could have the Doctor or Tegan have scenes with a manifestation of Adric. Say you have it like the Ahsoka episodes with Anakin where either of the Doctor or Tegan are in a World Between World type setting, or even bring back the Testimony from Twelve and One’s last adventure, and Adric appears to them like Anakin did to Ahsoka. And you can excuse Matthew being older than Adric ever was by having a line explaining that they’re seeing him as what they dreamed that he’d live to become, or something like that. Maybe it’d never happen, but I think it’d make for a good story. And Matthew does most certainly deserve the return appearance.

Ryan
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Easily the TV death that's affected me the most is in the anime series Monster, which is obscure enough that I really don't want to spoil who it is, so I'll just say it happens in the last few episodes, and that should be plenty for anyone who's seen it to figure it out. Also, Mordin in Mass Effect 3 was a huge one. I actually didn't get much of a reaction to Amy and Rory just because I was pissed at how contrived it was for no purpose besides grief porn, and it really didn't help because it was also tied up in how Moffat felt the need to add more nonsense rules for the Angels every single time they showed up, which this time apparently included "just one can totally escape the thing we make clear multiple times should take out every single one of them, because shut up."