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The Bad Batch 2x13-2x14 Full Reaction - EA - Sesskasays

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Ryan

Mostly a breather episode to start with, but throughout the whole thing we get some fantastic world-building, and your reaction during the whole last ten minutes shows just how successful it is in getting us invested in this community. For all the great horror films I've seen, I still name the scariest film I've seen as The Impossible, directly based on the account of a tourist family during the 2004 Thailand tsunami. There's nothing to do, no one to blame or who you can punch until the problem is fixed, you just have to hope to save as much as you can. That brief wide shot showing the devastation to the lower half of the island is plenty to get the point across, and made even more painful with the next episode getting a night shot with no lights down there. But once again, everyone was just waiting for the second episode, and your beautiful response to seeing Echo again. And after The Outpost didn't do much to actually get me on Crosshair's side, this is what did it, seeing him fearlessly stare down every attempt to get him to betray the rest of the Batch, until you half-expect him to say "It would be best to cut the carotid artery, just under the left ear." And then making a valiant escape he knows will lead to more suffering just to get a message out. And as a bonus, we even get Tech doing his best impression of Woody Allen keeping an eye on Christopher Walken (with Gonky as Annie Hall). Very clearly just setting up for the grand finale again, though for now I definitely count getting Hemlock visibly pissed off for a moment a victory.

Saltire le Hutt

2x13 : The opening definitely felt like something Han Solo would be up to, getting into trouble in bars, and I think like Solo, Phee shoots first. I've seen Omega take out people with her bow, but she point blank kills a goon here and I do find myself stunned at it; she's taking no prisoners these days!! You can definitely see she is a relation to Jango and Boba Fett alright. The bit with the bell too is great, what a way to go! I can't help but see the juxtaposition of our crew here being in an island paradise, whilst Crosshair is going through dark times under the Empire. I like the Pabu episode, its a breather from the heaviness of the last couple and for our crew its an opportunity to show how they can have a life outside of soldiering and being on the run. This is a place they can settle down and live in peace. However, the earthquake and subsequent carnage that happens later is there to remind us that they are likely not to get that chance, especially with the Empire after Omega. Was looking at the behind the scenes of this episode, and it was being developed when we were all in our houses due to the Covid lockdown; and the designers thought of this place as where they would all love to be during that time. It reminds me of a Greek island, and recently I've been wanting to go back to Greece for a long break. 2x14 : After the colour of the previous episode, we open with the grey bleakness of the Empire watching prisoners be transported. One of them is Howzer who we saw in the first season and was Cham Syndulla's clone commander, where he tries to get the rest of his clones to wake up to what the Empire is already doing to Ryloth. He and his clones were arrested after that and hence they ended up here. Always like to see stormtroopers go up against clones, who time and again show they are (literally) a different breed of soldier. Love when the imperial venator drops in and unleashes the V-Wings and we hear an incomplete Imperial March playing. Though this is the Empire, its not Star Destroyers and TIE's just yet. Crosshair even drugged, is still so deadly with a gun, taking out about 8 stormtroopers to try and get his warning message to the rest of the crew out. He's lost hope for himself, and isn't looking to escape, but he can try to get the rest of Clone Force 99 away from danger. When we get back to Pabu we see how our crew are settling in there, especially Wrecker. I note there is slight development with him here. When we first meet him, he's never happier than when he's causing destruction and blowing things up. Here, he is helping fix things and provide. He is showing he doesn't need to be a demolitions expert now to be happy. He's maturing. Omega looks to be a natural at flying. Picking up some notes from Hera and Tech, she'll be just fine I bet. The heat vents at the back are glowing hot suggesting the poor Marauder is getting worked over big time with her flying! She'll get there. :) Hemlock has a gloved left hand he always holds with his right. I wonder what that's all about. With him being an expert cloner and into all sorts of experimentation, has he done something to that hand? And now he wants the clones that have been causing the Empire trouble, in his 'care'. I can't help but think back to the early TCW episodes, where even if they died horribly, the Jedi would always have their back. And now we are here with them either getting cast aside, killed off, or end up here on Tantiss, to be experimented on. Nice bit of dialogue between Hunter and Echo. Hunter is looking to put down roots permanently, whilst Echo is with Rex, deep in the fight against the Empire. Hunter may sound a bit distant when he asks 'when will it be enough', but he understands why Echo won't give up; Rex didn't with him, he can't do now for the other clones who will need help. For Hunter, all he is concerned about, is his own crew (though not especially Crosshair as he distrusts him). CF99 were always distant with the regs generally and the regs didn't treat them very well either, so its understandable Hunter isn't too fussed about dropping everything to help them. Of course if Rex or Echo ask for help, then Hunter and the crew will do so; but he's been looking to get out of the fight for a while, as it seems is Tech and Wrecker now; which is why Pabu is so appealing to put roots down on. So our crew find out about the facility on Mount Tantiss, but don't know its location and whether to trust Crosshair's warning; yet they do now know they are presumably back being hunted. Looking forward to the season finale!

Thomas Corp

Yes, Jess, we all had to get into our feels with these two episodes, and in anticipation for the then presumed strong emotions of the season finale. And now we have again, for old time’s sake, a Barbenheimer experience with The Bad Batch. The Batch being the Barb, and the Crosshair and Echo-centric episode being the Heimer. Starting again with the Barb half of the equation. Lovely scene of Phee and the Batch liberating the ancient wonder. After the poisoning attempts don’t work out, you half expect Phee to say, “Nice try, Lao Che!” Nice that Phee helps the Batch out after trying to ghost Cid. Pabu is lovely. I like how you liked it. Love how you got a good laugh over Phee saying that the batch will probably hate dinner at Shep’s for the food and drink and general merrymaking. The merrymaking doesn’t sound the most appealing. Tech is me with that pure sibling moment where he quips that he will note the date and time to commemorate the historic moment of Wrecker being full. It’s great how there’s no villainous force or threat in this episode. Simply the natural phenomenon that’s deliberately reminiscent of the Boxing Day Tsunami from twenty years ago come this December. Hard to believe it was that long ago. I remember it being on the news non-stop, similar to how Mom had the coverage of the Columbia disaster on for months it felt like. That Tsunami was a horrifying and memorable end to a somewhat chaotic and stressful year. Terrific to see the batch save the people. Top-notch moment of Tech and Phee with the ladders, and I love how you found it sweet. I ship them. Wrecker had that sweet moment of helping the old gentleman. Throughout the episode, you are correct that you see Hunter realize that maybe they should hang up the shingle and lay down the roots. Now to the Heimer half. I anticipated your joy over seeing Echo again, which was wonderful. Good to see Howzer, Gregor, and Senator Chuchi too. You sum it up well that Echo cannot stand back and do nothing to help his brothers. Sweet to have the talk between Echo and Hunter. I like how Echo is supportive of Hunter’s strong consideration of laying down the roots. And whilst Echo would still be fighting the good fight, you can tell he recognizes that there would be a home to come back to when all is said and done, provided of course he lives; it’s a long road after all. The heart swells at Tech teaching Omega. I love Tech’s moment of, “Hm, “Tech Turn” is not bad. Let’s file that for future use.” It is this episode that Crosshair finally has his redemption. Namely how he refuses to sell his family down the river. Even though Hemlock is putting the screws to him, (Or needle, technically, sorry about that, Jess,) he stands firm and does not give in. Love your reaction to when Crosshair sends the message of Plan 88 to his family. Hemlock is quite the psycho. You’ll hear no arguments from me on that one. It says something when Tarkin seems cuddly by comparison, though his mention of the summit sounds ominous. Nice to see Hemlock be frustrated that Crosshair’s resistance to the mind probe is considerable. I love how the valid points are brought up when the batch gets the Plan 88 message. How Tech assesses it and comes to the conclusion that it seems genuine, and Crosshair is warning them to lay low. Contrast to Hunter who has reasonable skepticism over that and he surmises that it could be a trap. I like how Wrecker has the middle ground response of simply asking how they ascertain the truth. And thus concludes the penultimate hour of season two, especially as the next two episodes premiered at once, the week before my birthday last year. You mention the stress, there’s plenty on my end. I apologize if I tie one on early in the day in preparation for the reaction next week. Though I suppose the safer bet would be just to pound back an entire pot of coffee to calm myself down. Regardless, to answer how we might find some of your emotional investments silly. No, I do not. Quite the opposite in fact. I adore them, Jess. You take the time to really invest in these characters. They find a special place in your heart. And it lays bare the depths of your compassion and kindness, and it shows how you are the best. Thank you for the lovely reaction, Jess. Bracing myself for next week.

Thomas Corp

The first episode does well with the world building and is, as Jess kept calling it, sweet. In terms of scariest horror films, The Black Cat with Bela and Boris might reign supreme for me, (Though The Silence of the Lambs and Dracula from 1931 with Bela are both in my top three favorite films.) mostly for how DEEPLY perversely disturbing it is, and how it maintains all of the potency of that even ninety years hence. The Impossible is a good showcase for how you said, “There’s nothing to do, no one to blame or who you can punch until the problem is fixed, you just have to hope to save as much as you can.” Thinking it over some, particularly with revisiting this show, I find this episode is more the redemption episode for Crosshair. The Outpost is where he fully breaks through the fog of lies, and it felt like more he was committing suicide by Empire by taking that Nolan fucker with him. Now that he knows he’s lived and what Hemlock is after, here he makes that committed decision to NOT betray his family, not this time. You do expect him to utter that line you mentioned, to which we would all say, “I like a brave man.” in response. Love the escape attempt. The Tech driving scene reminds me of the one time when I was seventeen. My dad took me and him to the empty high school parking lot for me to try to get some driving practice in. I don’t think I was so terrible. Alas, I guess I was as I’ve never taken any official driving classes. Presently thirty-three, and I’ve never had a driver’s permit, let alone a license. I will pay cash money for a full movie of Gonky as Annie Hall though. Hemlock getting visibly pissed off is definitely cause for celebration.

Ryan

Jess is absolutely in my top reviewers, alongside OGB, Nikki and Steven, and Pretty Much It. And the big reason is those huge emotional investments (which she has in common with Nikki in particular). Even if they occasionally mean I can't actually bring myself to watch if the subject is too real (and First Blood just barely squeaked by that line thanks to Rambo himself being fictional), for someone like me who hardly ever has sizable emotional reactions to shows and movies, it gives something real to hold onto that it's not just me, these things really are that good that they can inspire something like this.